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legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
December 27, 2020, 10:55:17 AM
#70
I have traded with Ledger many times and always carefully. It was probably some hacking attack on my PC, unknown to me. I thought Ledger was safe ...

The ledger isn't really safe from the recent articles surfacing about the company which had a major data breach back in July of this year. Yet they hadn't done much to secure their devices nor protect their customers.
Could these email addresses that had been published to a subsequent forum be used to get those ledger users to click on link so whenever they connect their ledger to their pc to upgrade or whatever they want to do with it, it copies an address which is the hackers deposit address instead?
Who knows but that's what it sounds like happened to your crypto located this ledger, a so called secure&safe wallet.

The way that hardware wallets work is that they have a display and it shows the destination address, so if the computer gets infected with a virus which can change the destination address to the hackers, like the old clipboard attack, you will notice it on the screen on the hardware wallet. Most people check this before they proceed with the transaction.

But if you click a link, which modifies the firmware of your HW then its possible that it can display a fake link and send it to the hackers address instead. No idea how these people are getting all their coins stolen all of a sudden. Maybe some rogue employee patched fake firmware on certain HW from the factory, who knows.
legendary
Activity: 2828
Merit: 1497
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December 26, 2020, 09:45:19 PM
#69
I have traded with Ledger many times and always carefully. It was probably some hacking attack on my PC, unknown to me. I thought Ledger was safe ...

The ledger isn't really safe from the recent articles surfacing about the company which had a major data breach back in July of this year. Yet they hadn't done much to secure their devices nor protect their customers.
Could these email addresses that had been published to a subsequent forum be used to get those ledger users to click on link so whenever they connect their ledger to their pc to upgrade or whatever they want to do with it, it copies an address which is the hackers deposit address instead?
Who knows but that's what it sounds like happened to your crypto located this ledger, a so called secure&safe wallet.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
December 26, 2020, 11:13:00 AM
#68
I'd send a message to https://twitter.com/vitalikbuterin about this.  Not that he'd fork ETH to get your coin back, but you never know.

I am pretty sure he wouldn’t do a chain rollback just to recover one theft. It would pretty much destroy the coin and this is what happened back in 2016 with the DAO hack.

Basically it almost destroyed the coin because it went from decentralized state to a centralized state. This is the reason why ETC exists today. Those stolen coins are still circulating on the ETC and the hacker sold off a small percentage of them. So tweeting him won’t get anything done but might spread awareness of the ledger phishing attacks to prevent more thefts.
copper member
Activity: 96
Merit: 1
December 25, 2020, 11:20:02 PM
#67
I'd send a message to https://twitter.com/vitalikbuterin about this.  Not that he'd fork ETH to get your coin back, but you never know.
DrX
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jr. member
Activity: 557
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December 23, 2020, 01:20:17 PM
#65
Usually when crypto are stolen they are quickly moved from the wallet to a cryto exchange to be converted to cash.
In the present case, the ETH are still present on the destination wallet so I'm not convinced this is the actions of a hacker

Are the hacker that you are describing are those self proclaimed hacker under there mom's basement? Hacker usually send the funds to a mixer before they send it to exchange. There is no hacker in the right mind that will send hacked funds directly to an exchange which might lead to reveal there identity. All transaction that sends to exchange can be tracked and most of the exchange requires KYC nowadays.

Of course but what I obviously meant is that funds do not stay on an address for more than a day after the hack
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December 23, 2020, 01:12:04 PM
#64
Usually when crypto are stolen they are quickly moved from the wallet to a cryto exchange to be converted to cash.
In the present case, the ETH are still present on the destination wallet so I'm not convinced this is the actions of a hacker

Are the hacker that you are describing are those self proclaimed hacker under there mom's basement? Hacker usually send the funds to a mixer before they send it to exchange. There is no hacker in the right mind that will send hacked funds directly to an exchange which might lead to reveal there identity. All transaction that sends to exchange can be tracked and most of the exchange requires KYC nowadays.
jr. member
Activity: 557
Merit: 5
December 23, 2020, 01:07:37 PM
#63
Usually when crypto are stolen they are quickly moved from the wallet to a cryto exchange to be converted to cash.
In the present case, the ETH are still present on the destination wallet so I'm not convinced this is the actions of a hacker
full member
Activity: 1275
Merit: 141
December 23, 2020, 11:11:01 AM
#62
I had the same problem on 21 January 2019 I receive a replacement for my Ledger Nano S due the firmware upgrade, ...

Do You mind explaining "replacement due firmware upgrade"?

Because the old hardware version of Nano S should be replace in order to upgrade the firmware

Um that has not been my experience.  Mine is an original Nano S still working just fine.  All firmware upgrades have been done through the ledger app and only through the official app.
I think you found your issue.
full member
Activity: 279
Merit: 100
December 23, 2020, 09:52:30 AM
#61
I had the same problem on 21 January 2019 I receive a replacement for my Ledger Nano S due the firmware upgrade, ...

Do You mind explaining "replacement due firmware upgrade"?

Because the old hardware version of Nano S should be replace in order to upgrade the firmware
legendary
Activity: 3444
Merit: 1061
December 23, 2020, 03:19:17 AM
#60

LOL if only the people mining ETH in 2015 is able to see this quarell..you can mine it all in a day with a few 280x hehe

ETH was extremely profitable to mine (in terms of ETH not USD or actual profit) back in late 2015. It had a good launch and then I think those that bought the ICO ended up dumping everything and at the end of the year I think ETH traded at less than $1.

An R9 280X didn't have any DAG issues with a low epoch, it actually mined at 27-28MH/s however it ate 200 Watts of power. So with $0.10 power, you were mining at a loss but generated 1 ETH per day per 280X.

Imagine mining ETH with a single 280X back in late 2015, to sell at $1400 in Jan 2018? Basically what Satoshi felt pretty much. However most like me either didn't mine at a loss or they mined and sold when ETH hit $10 or $20.

To mine at $1 a coin and sell at $1000 is extremely rare.

i don't know and i forgot the numbers but i said this in 2015 heheh

Thanks for the info! I'm mining right now around 13 Mh/s. It's severely non-profitable. Which has me wondering why? Even more so, why are so many people hashing away and perfectly fine with losing money? Faith?

That depends on your power price and hardware.

lol youd be better off mining a coin with a lower diff with that hashrate....

Lower diff usually means lower price. Not that there aren't more profitable X11 coins to mine than DASH, currently. IMO, it's stupid to mine DASH in this case, even if you want DASH - instead, mine something else, sell it, buy DASH, and you end up with more DASH than you would have had, had you mined it directly.

Wolf0 is right mine other coin.......no more coins, better buy..it is all about buying the coins produced by the POS masternodes. POW is still there to make dash look more legit.

try ethereum it is more profitable, the coins move so fast dash's instantx is not that great anymore  Wink



anyway.. I think some people, start instamining and mining early and storing their stash for "cold storage" because of the success of BTC, a lot of people did it with many altcoins, the only problem is their "cold storage" became as cold as dead LOL, I think some got lucky with ETH  Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 751
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December 22, 2020, 03:17:32 AM
#59

Imagine mining ETH with a single 280X back in late 2015, to sell at $1400 in Jan 2018? Basically what Satoshi felt pretty much. However most like me either didn't mine at a loss or they mined and sold when ETH hit $10 or $20.

To mine at $1 a coin and sell at $1000 is extremely rare.

Is that a personal attack or something ...
sr. member
Activity: 736
Merit: 262
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December 22, 2020, 02:45:38 AM
#58
I had the same problem on 21 January 2019 I receive a replacement for my Ledger Nano S due the firmware upgrade, ...

Do You mind explaining "replacement due firmware upgrade"?
legendary
Activity: 4354
Merit: 3614
what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
December 21, 2020, 09:29:02 PM
#57
You don't need a hardware wallet, people were using paper wallet for years without any issues.

well one time i had the paper wallet folded in such a way that eventually a crease mangled some letters in a private key. it wasnt a trivial amount so i wasnt exactly happy that i had not thought about folds damaging letters when storing it.

took a while to sort it out. im more careful now.
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
December 21, 2020, 06:59:05 PM
#56
I suspect someone that is working where ledger stores and ships their wallets is swapping out ledgers with tampered ones.







LOL if only the people mining ETH in 2015 is able to see this quarell..you can mine it all in a day with a few 280x hehe

ETH was extremely profitable to mine (in terms of ETH not USD or actual profit) back in late 2015. It had a good launch and then I think those that bought the ICO ended up dumping everything and at the end of the year I think ETH traded at less than $1.

An R9 280X didn't have any DAG issues with a low epoch, it actually mined at 27-28MH/s however it ate 200 Watts of power. So with $0.10 power, you were mining at a loss but generated 1 ETH per day per 280X.

Imagine mining ETH with a single 280X back in late 2015, to sell at $1400 in Jan 2018? Basically what Satoshi felt pretty much. However most like me either didn't mine at a loss or they mined and sold when ETH hit $10 or $20.

To mine at $1 a coin and sell at $1000 is extremely rare.

Imagine being part of the ethereum "team" and getting the majority of premined ethereum with very little work. Many of those team members did next to nothing and got huge bags of ethereum for it.
full member
Activity: 279
Merit: 100
December 21, 2020, 06:32:04 PM
#55
I had the same problem on 21 January 2019 I receive a replacement for my Ledger Nano S due the firmware upgrade, after the initial setup I move 1.9678 BTC to my Ledger than I have stored the key on safe place, a few weeks later I connect my Ledger in order to move some coins and I discovered than my balance was 0.
I checked the transaction and I find that on 29 January 2019 that someone has move all my BTC to this address:

36bbmZdw73MCN93qWE69X4pcJ3AS6dH3Rj

this is the TX ID: 8629187cb30f4e1facf5ba03f7426b19f2270aa4a48e299e10ff3b851d7de7ea

I never been able to have back my BTC

Probably your ledger nano was not genuine, hackers and scammers have been selling a modified version, beware.

I have receive the ledger directly from them
sr. member
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Merit: 353
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December 21, 2020, 03:57:42 PM
#53
I had the same problem on 21 January 2019 I receive a replacement for my Ledger Nano S due the firmware upgrade, after the initial setup I move 1.9678 BTC to my Ledger than I have stored the key on safe place, a few weeks later I connect my Ledger in order to move some coins and I discovered than my balance was 0.
I checked the transaction and I find that on 29 January 2019 that someone has move all my BTC to this address:

36bbmZdw73MCN93qWE69X4pcJ3AS6dH3Rj

this is the TX ID: 8629187cb30f4e1facf5ba03f7426b19f2270aa4a48e299e10ff3b851d7de7ea

I never been able to have back my BTC

Probably your ledger nano was not genuine, hackers and scammers have been selling a modified version, beware.
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
December 21, 2020, 03:52:38 PM
#52
it is possible to prevent a transaction before it gets confirmed using double spend (RBF) Replace-By-Fee method with higher network fee!
full member
Activity: 279
Merit: 100
December 21, 2020, 11:08:43 AM
#51
I had the same problem on 21 January 2019 I receive a replacement for my Ledger Nano S due the firmware upgrade, after the initial setup I move 1.9678 BTC to my Ledger than I have stored the key on safe place, a few weeks later I connect my Ledger in order to move some coins and I discovered than my balance was 0.
I checked the transaction and I find that on 29 January 2019 that someone has move all my BTC to this address:

36bbmZdw73MCN93qWE69X4pcJ3AS6dH3Rj

this is the TX ID: 8629187cb30f4e1facf5ba03f7426b19f2270aa4a48e299e10ff3b851d7de7ea

I never been able to have back my BTC
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