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Topic: Stop calling Bitcoin 'virtual' or 'digital' currency. - page 2. (Read 2244 times)

hero member
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I personally want BTC to be thought of as play money to keep the 1% off our backs until it is too late for them.
Sure thing! But when is that gonna be? When there's enough market adoption, and Bitcoin has become so large they can't stop it anymore. Which depends on more and more people having a proper understanding of what Bitcoin is, and the benefits it offers. So let's put emphasis on these benefits and the things that truly make Bitcoin unique, rather than irrelevant details such as being digital which only creates confusion and misunderstanding.

Why you in such a hurry?  Enjoy the hoarding phase.  Who cares about what other people think, for now.
legendary
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I think it is correct to refer bitcoins as virtual currency.

It is correct and silly to say because everything around these parts is digital and virtual.

Because, bitcoins are not the official currency of any country. And can not be used to pay tax either.

That's a non-sequitur.

Also, Chuckie Cheese tokens aren't an official currency and cannot be used to pay tax, yet they aren't virtual or digital currency.

Chuckie Cheese  Chuck E. Cheese

(just saying)
legendary
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I'm a mathematician, not a marketer.

I believe Bitcoin is a virtual currency so that's how I describe it.

If we are discussing what is virtual and what is physical I would reject physical notes/coins (both BTC and USD) as being amounts of the currency itself.  To me they are nothing more than physical items which represent an amount of a virtual currency.

I can see Gold as a physical currency in so far as one can defend Gold's modern day use as a facilitator of trade.

Finally, I reject the description of Bitcoin as a digital currency.  The name Bitcoin is used for both the system and the currency: the former is digital, the latter is not.
legendary
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Strength in numbers
I think it is correct to refer bitcoins as virtual currency.

It is correct and silly to say because everything around these parts is digital and virtual.

Because, bitcoins are not the official currency of any country. And can not be used to pay tax either.

That's a non-sequitur.

Also, Chuckie Cheese tokens aren't an official currency and cannot be used to pay tax, yet they aren't virtual or digital currency.
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Getting all riled up over semantics like this is the most useless expenditure of mental energy. The same goes for those working diligently to figure out what we should call fractions of a Bitcoin (mBTC vs. satoshis vs. whatever they've come up with now). We don't need to spoon-feed sanitized and PR packaged Bitcoin to those who are unwilling or incapable of understanding what it is. Those who do understand its power should be the ones that reap the benefits of early adoption. The mental energy that's being spent to try and figure out how to re-package Bitcoin for these people would be better spent teaching them what it ACTUALLY is. A virtual currency, backed by the power of cryptographic protocols and a p2p network that maintains its legitimacy. Maybe I just have too much faith in humanity...

lch
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I  think it is correct to refer bitcoins as virtual currency. Because, bitcoins are not the official currency of any country. And can not be used to pay tax either.
member
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Just because someone is "virtual" doesn't mean it isn't "real".

In time people will understand, infact we need to keep calling it virtual currency so people can start to educate them self on what it actually means to be "real".
sr. member
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Even better, could start calling everything 'vitual' and 'digital'. "I just visited that virtual website." "Can you bring my digital computer?" "I can never keep up with my virtual inbox; all these digital messages are driving me crazy." 

LOL Cheesy
sr. member
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I personally want BTC to be thought of as play money to keep the 1% off our backs until it is too late for them.
Sure thing! But when is that gonna be? When there's enough market adoption, and Bitcoin has become so large they can't stop it anymore. Which depends on more and more people having a proper understanding of what Bitcoin is, and the benefits it offers. So let's put emphasis on these benefits and the things that truly make Bitcoin unique, rather than irrelevant details such as being digital which only creates confusion and misunderstanding.
hero member
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I personally want BTC to be thought of as play money to keep the 1% off our backs until it is too late for them.
sr. member
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My point is: there is no point in explaining Bitcoin as virtual or digital currency, because that doesn't distinguish it from any other currency whatsoever. We don't call Euros and Dollars virtual or digital currencies either, even though they are (even more so than Bitcoin).

Explicitly introducing Bitcoin as being digital or virtual (as if that would make it any different from other currency) only takes away the focus from what actually are unique properties of Bitcoin. Such as independency, or being limited and perfectly predictable in supply.
legendary
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Strength in numbers
Even better, could start calling everything 'vitual' and 'digital'. "I just visited that virtual website." "Can you bring my digital computer?" "I can never keep up with my virtual inbox; all these digital messages are driving me crazy." 
legendary
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I prefer people not be intellectually lazy.

I will NOT stop referring to Bitcoin as 'virtual' or 'digital' because that is exactly what it is. If people can't wrap their little muppet heads around it, that isn't OUR problem.

Anyone who operates in the digital world immediately 'gets' this. The lumbering dinosaurs that don't will become extinct anyway, so why "dumb" it down?
legendary
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Bitcoin
Calm down , everything is going to be ok! Tongue
legendary
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
Uh those are custom made not real coins Smiley
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Somebody has forgot where they left their meds.
hero member
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always the student, never the master.
ok virtual jesus. get off your digital cross.
sr. member
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In many discussions and explanations, Bitcoin is typically referred to as a "virtual" currency. This often seems to be interpreted as somehow "less real", especially by people who are new to Bitcoin. As if it's some kinda magical fantasy bogus money from cyberspace. To a lesser extent, the same goes for "digital". Even in 2013, there are still people who think "not tangible = not real" (makes me wonder: are bank accounts not real?)

I hereby urge you all to stop doing this. By introducing Bitcoin this way, you impose an unnecessary interpretation for people that really doesn't help to get a correct grasp of what Bitcoin really is.

Yeah, I know, Bitcoin is mostly digital. Well guess what: so are the Euro and Dollar. People traditionally call fiat money "hard cash", but almost every single Euro and Dollar in existence (more than 99%) exists only digital. And just like WoW-gold, they are literally created at whim by some issuing authority out of thin air, at the press of a button, in any volumes they see fit. How "real" is that? Doesn't work that way with Bitcoin. So in fact, Bitcoin is less virtual than Euros or Dollars or WoW-gold.

And besides, do these look virtual or digital to you?



So, Bitcoin is "free" (as in speech) money, that doesn't require banks, and cannot be controlled, seized, restricted or issued by some government, company, FED, central bank, or any other authority. But it sure as hell ain't "virtual". It's just as real as the internet, email, bank accounts and credit cards.

Thank you.
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