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Quote from: danherbias07 on May 28, 2020, 06:45:41 AM

So how are they going to call those kind of games? Roll game maybe? What is rolling? A dice

Hi-lo, maybe?

I know that the name may refer to another type of game, which has nothing to do with dice. However, in the early history of online crypto gambling (not sure if there is or was offline crypto gambling, but bear with me), what we refer to here as dice had sometimes been dubbed a hi-lo game. You bet on the outcome which is either above or below a certain number on a scale of 0 to 100 (with decimals involved in more recent implementations), and in that fashion you are betting on a higher or lower number. Hence hi-lo

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How come just calling a dice game went that far into researching in wikipedia, google and more? Grin

What is the real debate here?
So how are they going to call those kind of games? Roll game maybe? What is rolling? A dice. Grin

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It's not a big deal but I understand what OP is telling and it's not a dice. But we get used to it and there are certain logical reasons why it should be called as a dice whether you don't see it like that.
This is how you understand and if you don't like the term, call it what you want to call but the label that's been tagged to it for a very long time in the crypto gambling industry will still remain calling it as a dice.

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Quote from: Darker45 on May 28, 2020, 06:14:53 AM

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on May 27, 2020, 05:43:35 PM

Im quite surprised on what i have searched.In geometric aspect when talking about dice then it do talks about
6 sides but this one --
https://i.imgur.com/pTeDHFV.png
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dice

I really don't accept that as a kind of DICE. MindBlowing.

I guess we are just being too literal on words. We all know, after all, that everything is done online and through RNG. I mean, what's the fuss?

Or should we just stick to what words typically or even traditionally mean and invent a new one every time a new variation comes out?

What I am trying to say is that we are actually overthinking about it and are complicating things. A dice could have 8 sides as a coin could be a square.

Now you really complicate things.
This could be my last response on this thread, I think I'm going to be sick just by thinking LoL.
(Oyeah, I remember the old coins, they surely has an edge...)

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Quote from: Darker45 on May 28, 2020, 06:14:53 AM

What I am trying to say is that we are actually overthinking about it and are complicating things. A dice could have 8 sides as a coin could be a square.

We are, and we don't need a further discussion about this topic ...

well, you can ask the OP. Tongue

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Quote from: Darker45 on May 28, 2020, 06:14:53 AM

What I am trying to say is that we are actually overthinking about it and are complicating things. A dice could have 8 sides as a coin could be a square.

We are, and we don't need a further discussion about this topic as we all know that dice games are not literally based dice format in terms of chances of winning for both gambling site and gamblers, casinos do operate for a profit so it's normal that they have the edge and what matters is that the game is provably fair although we also have to accept that we don't have an edge on this game.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on May 28, 2020, 02:03:27 AM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on May 27, 2020, 05:43:35 PM

Im quite surprised on what i have searched.In geometric aspect when talking about dice then it do talks about
6 sides but this one --
https://i.imgur.com/pTeDHFV.png
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dice

I really don't accept that as a kind of DICE. MindBlowing.

I guess we are just being too literal on words. We all know, after all, that everything is done online and through RNG. I mean, what's the fuss?

Or should we just stick to what words typically or even traditionally mean and invent a new one every time a new variation comes out?

What I am trying to say is that we are actually overthinking about it and are complicating things. A dice could have 8 sides as a coin could be a square.

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Quote from: Lutpin on May 25, 2020, 10:36:13 AM

Quote from: CryCrptoCry on May 25, 2020, 10:32:57 AM

Normally you have to choose in between 10000 numbers not like dice which has only six sides.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71Zb23%2BNoKL._AC_SX425_.jpg

Now my brain doesn't know which one to believe...
I does tell me that Dice is only on a form of a CUBE which has 6 sides just like the OP says, and the image above is just a mere replicas but doesn't suit to be called a DICE.
Though mindrust has a point in which DICE IRL are seems to be different compared to online casinos but still uses the same way of algos.

Quote from: carlfebz2 on May 27, 2020, 05:43:35 PM

Im quite surprised on what i have searched.In geometric aspect when talking about dice then it do talks about
6 sides but this one --
https://i.imgur.com/pTeDHFV.png
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dice

I really don't accept that as a kind of DICE. MindBlowing.

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Quote from: CryCrptoCry on May 25, 2020, 10:32:57 AM

I am amazed why it is called DICE gambling when it has nothing to with dice. RNG picks a number and thats all where is the dice in that. Normally you have to choose in between 10000 numbers not like dice which has only six sides. Apart from that there is no visual animation corresponding to dice throw still there is picture of dice and it says ROLL, and I say LOL.

So what can we call it now since you don't wanna call it Dice game?sorry but i think you lose a lot in Dice this past days that's why you felt like even the game name you want to be change.

This has been called Dice even before you learn Online Gambling and why just now that you are pointing this out?there should be a appropriate reason for this issue

anyway whatever you wanna name this yet i will enjoy playing since it is what i love to play for long time now.

Quote from: rhomelmabini on May 27, 2020, 11:28:42 PM

The first gambling platform that called it a "dice" should be the one being questioned here in the first place. Tag him.

Six sides or not if they call it a dice we should respect them.

That's exactly what should we do,and if OP don't feel that way then He can choose another game that he has no issue at all.

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The first gambling platform that called it a "dice" should be the one being questioned here in the first place. Tag him.

Six sides or not if they call it a dice we should respect them.

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I also dont like their set our chance to win, for ex we set chance to win is 50% to win, is that really 50 we have chance to win?
i dont think so because sometime i can lose until 10 strike lose ,that already compare to my balance from raising after lose.
so i think game like that is also not fair.

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Quote from: Twentyonepaylots on May 27, 2020, 04:11:13 PM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on May 27, 2020, 03:49:25 PM

Quote from: CryCrptoCry on May 25, 2020, 10:32:57 AM

I am amazed why it is called DICE gambling when it has nothing to with dice. RNG picks a number and thats all where is the dice in that. Normally you have to choose in between 10000 numbers not like dice which has only six sides. Apart from that there is no visual animation corresponding to dice throw still there is picture of dice and it says ROLL, and I say LOL.

Okay lets make up some research when it comes to dice;

a small cube with each side having a different number of spots on it, ranging from one to six, thrown and used in gambling and other games involving chance.

It is better to hear it a "dice" game rather than "lotto" maybe this is one of the reason why many people are hooked up with this game because of the subliminal tickle on your mind that you got a higher chance on winning in a dice than a lotto though you got a lot of options or numbers to bet into. Typically the dice is just a six-sided cube with numbers from 1-6 but there are also some dice that has more than 6 which I never saw in my life yet, even in carnivals.

Im quite surprised on what i have searched.In geometric aspect when talking about dice then it do talks about
6 sides but this one --

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dice

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on May 27, 2020, 03:49:25 PM

Quote from: CryCrptoCry on May 25, 2020, 10:32:57 AM

I am amazed why it is called DICE gambling when it has nothing to with dice. RNG picks a number and thats all where is the dice in that. Normally you have to choose in between 10000 numbers not like dice which has only six sides. Apart from that there is no visual animation corresponding to dice throw still there is picture of dice and it says ROLL, and I say LOL.

Okay lets make up some research when it comes to dice;

a small cube with each side having a different number of spots on it, ranging from one to six, thrown and used in gambling and other games involving chance.

It is better to hear it a "dice" game rather than "lotto" maybe this is one of the reason why many people are hooked up with this game because of the subliminal tickle on your mind that you got a higher chance on winning in a dice than a lotto though you got a lot of options or numbers to bet into. Typically the dice is just a six-sided cube with numbers from 1-6 but there are also some dice that has more than 6 which I never saw in my life yet, even in carnivals.

Quote from: carlfebz2 on May 27, 2020, 03:49:25 PM

You got actually the point but in general sense it being embraced on how dice game being called yet it do roll out numbers and waiting up for the result.
yeah it do range from 1-6 on a typical or physical dice but online dice site do alter it out into a bigger picture and still adopting out that word.

But the game isn't about a dice, or picking a number from 1-6 it is about prediction whether it will be high or low with neut at 49.9. So most probably this is called a dice because like a dice, when you roll it, there will only single number at the top which is a winning number. They are similar in having a single winning number/side.

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Quote from: CryCrptoCry on May 25, 2020, 10:32:57 AM

I am amazed why it is called DICE gambling when it has nothing to with dice. RNG picks a number and thats all where is the dice in that. Normally you have to choose in between 10000 numbers not like dice which has only six sides. Apart from that there is no visual animation corresponding to dice throw still there is picture of dice and it says ROLL, and I say LOL.

Okay lets make up some research when it comes to dice;

a small cube with each side having a different number of spots on it, ranging from one to six, thrown and used in gambling and other games involving chance.

You got actually the point but in general sense it being embraced on how dice game being called yet it do roll out numbers and waiting up for the result.
yeah it do range from 1-6 on a typical or physical dice but online dice site do alter it out into a bigger picture and still adopting out that word.

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In fact, to be honest, I have always wondered why such nomenclature was made in me. Usually, it is meaningless for me to make such a naming for such games. After all, there is no dice that we are rolling around, and it is a type of game where predictions such as "High", "Low" are made. Personally, my idea here is that this type of games is named just like there are some terms in the crypto money world. For example, although there is no word "Hodl" in English, crypto investors constantly use this term. In other words, I think that this kind of games is called "Dice" as well. Of course, this is only my personal opinion, I cannot claim or prove such a thing.

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Quote from: Finestream on May 26, 2020, 04:45:03 AM

Quote from: Slow death on May 26, 2020, 03:54:25 AM

what is have special about Dice games?

maybe it's easy to play, and it gain popularity as it was introduce in the early days of crypto

It is also the easiest to develop

As you might remember (and if you cannot, let me remind you then), one of the first, if not the first ever, crypto casinos was called PrimeDice (it is still called so), and for a good reason. Quite a few other online casinos started out with just dice, and it is no surprise. Once you have a proper RNG, either hardware or software, designing a gambling engine is a breeze. As I suspect, developing auxiliary stuff like deposits and withdrawals (aka infrastructure) will require much more in terms of both time and effort

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What happens when you "throw" dice in both worlds(physical & virtual worlds)? Random numbers are "generated" in the air and computer, right? So that is probably a fair representation of both randomness.
I guess the most important thing is that it has sides, can be "thrown" to generate random numbers,etc
By the way, if it is easy or possible to add 1000 sides to physical dice will that make it less of a dice?
Virtual or cyber world kind of breaks the limit of physical representation of things (or virtual "dice" in this case... which reduces the limits of having only few sides). This is just my opinion, assuming I understand the post correctly.

In regards to the aspect on dice picture, guess it could show a dice with 1000 sides in summary... let say the dice Pic has 1—6 sides, on the 6th side you write "6 to 1000".

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There are many types of dice. The definition from "what is math" is this: A die (plural "dice") is a solid object with markings on each face used for random numbers when playing games.

I have seen myself 4-sided dice, 10-sided and even 20-sided and I am told there are many more types of dice. D120 seems to be in existence and according to some theoretical explanations there can be 100,000-sided dice built, here are some ideas.

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Quote from: Slow death on May 26, 2020, 03:54:25 AM

honestly to this day I never understood why most sites have Dice games and why so many people like Dice games?

Because dice is popular, most early gamblers in crypto are playing dice and a certain site is offering a single game only which is dice.
Now, slowly dice sites has become a casino, they are offering a lot of games for gamblers to choose from, but despite that, dice popularity is still here.

Some sportsbook are even adding dice in their platform, and this is rare, an exchange site has a dice game in their site, I'm talking about yobit, but not sure if their still a dice game in their site now.

Quote from: Slow death on May 26, 2020, 03:54:25 AM

what is have special about Dice games?

maybe it's easy to play, and it gain popularity as it was introduce in the early days of crypto.

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Quote from: Botnake on May 26, 2020, 03:08:46 AM

DICE has already become as part of the brand name of gambling sites in the crypto space, and I think no one can change it anymore.

Yeah and the way how it plays right we can really tell that they have similar actions but as I said earlier the only difference between them is the other played physically and the other is played online, It's no used to have a debate on this since the answer is very clear hopefully the OP will understand the simple explanation regarding on his questions and doubts about the dice.

Quote from: panjul07 on May 26, 2020, 04:02:46 AM

It will be a never ending argument, you have your own right to not call the game as Dice because of what you learned from its definition on some dictionaries or other sources.
But others are also free to call it as Dice because they used to call it as Dice.
I'm not really sure which site was the first that introduce this game as Dice, but it is now very popular.
No good reasons to change the name of the game.

If OP is not accepting the words given by the users here for sure this discussion will never ends.

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