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April 17, 2013, 06:32:24 PM
#32
imo this is like saying.... lets get rid of platinum, silver, palladium... and while we're at it -- eliminate copper, bronze, and every other metal we have... because we have gold.

I read that to myself in Bender's voice. Smiley
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April 17, 2013, 06:32:09 PM
#31
imo this is like saying.... lets get rid of platinum, silver, palladium... and while we're at it -- eliminate copper, bronze, and every other metal we have... because we have gold.

Metals have real world uses and applications.

Scam coins and pump & dumps don't.

True... they have real world use and applications because we want them to be useful and apply them.
cryptos have no physical property whatsoever... however, they have value because we want them to have value.

I see no difference between the perceived value of either.
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April 17, 2013, 06:28:12 PM
#30
There is a difference between "survivable" and "negative influence". If a massive rise of alt coins became realistic it may scare off many general public members from adopting any cryptocurrency because of confusion as to the "right" one. They simply abandon the idea all together and no one wins. Certainly Bitcoin will continue in it's niche and all the others will die off with the cryptocurrency decline. In that scenario Bitcoin was strong enough to "survive", but alt coins would have helped the demise of cryptocurrency in general.

How is there confusion as to which is the "right" one...?

If you are interested in purchasing a currency which can be used for let's say buying monthly web hosting and BTC/LTC are the only currencies which web hosting companies accept how would you be confused into wondering if you need BBQCoin or Feathercoin...?

Because many members of the general public will presume one currency will win out in the end, rendering others useless. Exactly the same reason that so many people invest in so many useless coins here, because they are speculating that one "might be the big thing" and dominate the rest. For example people might invest in myspace without competitors, or they might invest in facebook without competitors, but many people may just hold out if facebook and myspace were competing against each other thinking on or the other would win out eventually. No one wants to back a myspace.

legendary
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In Cryptocoins I Trust
April 17, 2013, 06:27:18 PM
#29
imo this is like saying.... lets get rid of platinum, silver, palladium... and while we're at it -- eliminate copper, bronze, and every other metal we have... because we have gold.

Metals have real world uses and applications.

Scam coins and pump & dumps don't.
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April 17, 2013, 06:26:50 PM
#28
There is a difference between "survivable" and "negative influence". If a massive rise of alt coins became realistic it may scare off many general public members from adopting any cryptocurrency because of confusion as to the "right" one. They simply abandon the idea all together and no one wins. Certainly Bitcoin will continue in it's niche and all the others will die off with the cryptocurrency decline. In that scenario Bitcoin was strong enough to "survive", but alt coins would have helped the demise of cryptocurrency in general.

Good point. I can relate to this, as I am Agnostic. As I was growing up, my parents raised me as a christian (bible school, church, youth group, etc.). As I got older I started to wonder about different religions and why there were so many that so many people faithfully believed in. Which one is legit??

This really turned me off of the whole organized religion thing... there are so many and how was I supposed to decide which one is actually legit, when I could never really know for sure. This line of thinking could easily be applied to crypto currencies if they keep proliferating at this rate.

So having multiple religions was beneficial in this case as it got you away from all religions altogether because all religions are scams...
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April 17, 2013, 06:26:04 PM
#27
imo this is like saying.... lets get rid of platinum, silver, palladium... and while we're at it -- eliminate copper, bronze, and every other metal we have... because we have gold.




legendary
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April 17, 2013, 06:24:49 PM
#26
There is a difference between "survivable" and "negative influence". If a massive rise of alt coins became realistic it may scare off many general public members from adopting any cryptocurrency because of confusion as to the "right" one. They simply abandon the idea all together and no one wins. Certainly Bitcoin will continue in it's niche and all the others will die off with the cryptocurrency decline. In that scenario Bitcoin was strong enough to "survive", but alt coins would have helped the demise of cryptocurrency in general.

Good point. I can relate to this, as I am Agnostic. As I was growing up, my parents raised me as a christian (bible school, church, youth group, etc.). As I got older I started to wonder about different religions and why there were so many that so many people faithfully believed in.

This really turned me off of the whole organized religion thing... there are so many and how was I supposed to decide which one is actually legit, when I could never really know for sure. This line of thinking could easily be applied to crypto currencies if they keep proliferating at this rate.
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April 17, 2013, 06:22:37 PM
#25
There is a difference between "survivable" and "negative influence". If a massive rise of alt coins became realistic it may scare off many general public members from adopting any cryptocurrency because of confusion as to the "right" one. They simply abandon the idea all together and no one wins. Certainly Bitcoin will continue in it's niche and all the others will die off with the cryptocurrency decline. In that scenario Bitcoin was strong enough to "survive", but alt coins would have helped the demise of cryptocurrency in general.

How is there confusion as to which is the "right" one...?

If you are interested in purchasing a currency which can be used for let's say buying monthly web hosting and BTC/LTC are the only currencies which web hosting companies accept how would you be confused into wondering if you need BBQCoin or Feathercoin...?
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April 17, 2013, 06:19:22 PM
#24
Alt mean alternative. Alternative to what? To bitcoin? Don't make me LOL. Name at least one currency which can:
1. grow up from less than $0.01 to $260
2. can be used for purchasing legal and illegal goods, including guns, ammo and drugs. But not only!
2.1 On bitcoins you already can buy software, games, sporting food.. You can buy even a pizza or rent a cab.
3. can be compared with real gold by marked specialists.
4. What the hell? What exactly you miss in bitcoin and litecoin?
But the scammers like Real Solid kills trust to any crypto currency.

If the coin isn't strong enough to withstand fly-by-night-flash-in-the-pan alt-coins then that is the coin's problem.

If a coin is truly strong enough to stand on it's own it will stand strong no matter how many alts are made and people will use it as an example in reference to how alt-coins could be better or don't compare. There should be no fear of alt-coins for a crypto which is truly strong enough to stand on it's own.

There is a difference between "survivable" and "negative influence". If a massive rise of alt coins became realistic it may scare off many general public members from adopting any cryptocurrency because of confusion as to the "right" one. They simply abandon the idea all together and no one wins. Certainly Bitcoin will continue in it's niche and all the others will die off with the cryptocurrency decline. In that scenario Bitcoin was strong enough to "survive", but alt coins would have helped the demise of cryptocurrency in general.
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April 17, 2013, 06:17:36 PM
#23
The market will decide which are good and which are not--not a bunch of pundits posting on a forum.
We are the market.
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April 17, 2013, 06:17:05 PM
#22
It's a free world.
Thats why we say STOP DOING IT!!! Roll Eyes

There are really smarter things to do...
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April 17, 2013, 06:15:35 PM
#21
I'm ok with it, mainly because it' siphon's off a portion of the community from mining the actual main coins, hence it's more profitable for me because there is less hashing in the main pools.

Saying that, the vast majority of these new coins are nothing more than glorified pump and dumps. It just takes a range people in to mine and "get in on the ground floor" before we see a slight rise, massive sell off by the early adopters leaving the end users holding the ball with nothing.

I've got nothing against alternative currencies, one day there may even be one out there that offers genuine advantages over bitcoins. We haven't seen one yet though, and the vast majority of the clones are just ridiculous.

As I said, each to their own though, it just benefits me so I don't have an issue.
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April 17, 2013, 06:13:01 PM
#20
+1 if you make another coin at least have a use and some nice new feature
If not keep the coin to play with yourself
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April 17, 2013, 06:07:38 PM
#19
we need to get MC2 up and running.  It's going to be a CPU launch coin which will be very fair for early adopters.  And MC2 is legit and a new idea for an alt currency. (Except now its getting full of offers to be those wonder coins)

Wondercoins
-do something useful
-ip address
-all those wacky ideas
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April 17, 2013, 05:57:08 PM
#18
ALTs live and die by community support. It is the people who decide if any 'clones' will stick around. Even if a coin doesn't bring anything new to the table by itself, if people decide to build services around it then it is inherently more valuable.
legendary
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April 17, 2013, 05:55:54 PM
#17
u mad?
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April 17, 2013, 05:52:16 PM
#16
So much anger....
Can't we all get along ...  Cheesy
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April 17, 2013, 05:45:33 PM
#15
Selling scamcoins is like selling magic beans. Just because some sucker will buy them doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.

funny thing is.. most all non-bitcoiners think bitcoin is a scam anyway..

all cryptocurrencies are basically the same thing.. some internet only computer based made up 'thing' that somehow people are willing to pay for.

I just happen to believe more than most people in the world that it is a useful 'thing'.
legendary
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May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage
April 17, 2013, 05:38:01 PM
#14
Please, stop making useless clones of bitcoin and litecoin without any clear-cut idea.
Lol
sr. member
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April 17, 2013, 05:26:35 PM
#13
Alt mean alternative. Alternative to what? To bitcoin? Don't make me LOL. Name at least one currency which can:
1. grow up from less than $0.01 to $260
2. can be used for purchasing legal and illegal goods, including guns, ammo and drugs. But not only!
2.1 On bitcoins you already can buy software, games, sporting food.. You can buy even a pizza or rent a cab.
3. can be compared with real gold by marked specialists.
4. What the hell? What exactly you miss in bitcoin and litecoin?
But the scammers like Real Solid kills trust to any crypto currency.

If the coin isn't strong enough to withstand fly-by-night-flash-in-the-pan alt-coins then that is the coin's problem.

If a coin is truly strong enough to stand on it's own it will stand strong no matter how many alts are made and people will use it as an example in reference to how alt-coins could be better or don't compare. There should be no fear of alt-coins for a crypto which is truly strong enough to stand on it's own.
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