Topic: Stop discouraging Newbies from Bitcoin... - page 3. (Read 1694 times)

That's a warning isn't it limiting beginners from getting involved in trading, you have to separate advice from limiting beginners' interest? They try to say something that happened according to reality that beginners are not advised to get involved in trading when they have not mastered technical or other basic things. There is nothing wrong with that reminder and for me reminding each other is an effort to maintain a level of sanity because we cannot live alone without listening to the advice of other people who are more experienced.

No one is born as a professional trader and that is why reminding each other is an effort to look after each other. Make criticism an effort for us to become more developed and in this online forum we must have thicker skin to respond to every person's criticism. If a person is not ready to accept criticism then this place is not suitable for him and I don't think there is anything wrong with such criticism.

 Those comments are often from newcomers who may not yet see the full potential of trading. It's best to ignore them and not let their negativity affect your belief in the financial success that investing can bring.

In a diverse forum like this, you'll encounter people with various intentions - some genuinely willing to help, and others who seem intent on crushing dreams. Don't let it get to you. If you believe in your path, follow it. Words are just words, but what truly matters is the knowledge you gain on how to trade successfully.

And here's a good point to consider: all those successful traders out there, didn't they start as newbies too?  Keep learning, and you're bound to find the right strategy and information, as it's proven that anyone can become profitable in trading.

I also hate seeing many people here discouraging newbies to either Learn first or Never invest if you are not ready , because for me if we are talking about bitcoin ? the only knowledge the person should know is that the readiness to wait and risk.
buy now and wait for the bull run.
that is the only essence I believe matter in Bitcoin.
those other advises are for Altcoin or shitcoin investors because they are mostly the one that will fall into wrong decisioning and wrong buying.
but since this is bitcoin section and discussion , then why a need to big knowledge?
just learn your plans and capacity , but just only invest the amount you can carry to lose if ever there is a wrong turn in time.

The title of your topic is quite misleading. New members to the forum with little to no knowledge about bitcoin are always welcomed and encouraged as well as being bombarded with relevant information and articles that would help a newbie on the journey towards bitcoin enlightenment.

Being misleading with the heading of your topic wasn’t enough, you now go on to make bogus claims providing nothing but words to back up such claims.
Being advised by other members to acquire more knowledge and experience first before delving into trading, is them literally looking out for you. Does the thought of having to acquire more information and knowledge first discourage you?

I think I’ll reiterate this popular opinion: Bitcoin trading isn’t for newbies.
It’s always best to learn from someone’s mistakes so when  the majority of opinions from other members recommends gaining more knowledge and experience, the last thing you should feel is discouraged.

I think you have misunderstood this sentence. The sentence ""Bitcoin trading is not for newbies"” true meaning is that newbie shouldn't invest until get knowledge of trading and I think this is very good advice for newbie so that he didn't lose from the start. Newbie should learn how the analysis work, how news affect the btc price and what to do in panic situation and most often newbies didn't aware of it and they start selling in lose when they saw panics selling in the market.

Newbie should start from holding which is safe and no need of any trading knowledge. This forum is best place for learning but sometimes you will see some discouraging reply also but you have to check what's majority says and take cares about their advice. Newbie can start learning here but before learning if he start trading then high chances that he will loss all before learning.

It's not that newbies are not capable of trading, it's that newbies are not ready, they need more time to learn more knowledge, experience, and skills before trading. No one should discourage or chase newbies away from trading, but they should also not rush to think that making money from trading is easy. All advice from old traders just want to advise newbies to take it slow and not rush into trading without experience, only participate in trading when they have knowledge and are really ready to trade.

They are not discouraging newbies from Bitcoin but rather from trading Bitcoin. Say it as it is.

We all know that trading Bitcoin is riskier than just buying and holding, and that's the close warning that some users are trying to pass on to the newbies who think that trading is an easy pizzi thing and also something that they can start doing and relying on it for a steady source of income. I still remember that some months ago a newbie was asking if he or she could resign from his job and start Bitcoin trading, which he felt was going to earn him a huge amount of profit every day, but it's not correct. Someone also ask if they invest like $1000 in trading, can they earn up to $100 or more on a daily basis. There's a possibility that it could be possible, but there's no certainty that they would make such a profit every day. Some days in trading, you might not even earn a profit, and that's what some experienced members here try to warn newbies about. Even I made some mistakes while I was trading, and at a point, I got upset and stopped trading for some weeks, yet I still put myself together and continued.

That’s already the best advice an old trader can give to a newbie, never trade if you are not capable to do it. Old traders have already been there, trading while they are still newbies but all they got are just inevitable losses and the more they try to trade, the bigger the losses they have endure. This is not to discourage newbies to never try trading, but to warn them that there’s always a danger in trading if you insist to do it without proper knowledge and skills to do it, without making a long preparation prior to trading.

In every decision we will take, there are risks that we will face and we must be ready to face them in order to achieve the goals we want. Everyone who understands Bitcoin well has of course gone through every process from the start so that they really understand it well. Yes, I agree with you, in the early stages of learning it would be better for us to choose someone who really understands it well to accompany our learning process because everyone is different in the teaching process.

That's true, a bitcoiner will not discourage others about bitcoin because they are all into it, but instead, they always feels happy to see that newbies learn about bitcoin through them all, this is the kind of mindset that every bitcoiners have towards each other including the newbies because they realized that bitcoin is freely for everyone and there's no limitations to the extent on how bitcoin could change life, knowing that everyone experienced today about bitcoin was once a newbie.

There are people who will discourage newbies on this forum because of the way the newbie wants to take to get their Bitcoin, I will discourage any newbie who knows nothing about Bitcoin, crypto exchanges, and crypto wallets, why will I encourage such people to buy Bitcoin? They will end up losing their money that's why they need ti be discouraged from buying Bitcoin, it's not the first thing to do.

Beginners need to understand the different types of crypto wallets we have in the crypto space, they need to know the importance of recovery seeds and private keys, that's why some people are still storing their Bitcoin on coinbase and other big crypto exchanges, if they understand why Bitcoin are safer in a non custodial wallet maybe they will change their mind?

Trading is also not good for beginners because they will do it wrong, they will make mistakes and it will cost them their money, how can a beginner who is lazy about learning crypto wallets and others learn trading when it's one of the hardest ways to make money in crypto space? If you come across any response that looks like discouraging for newbies, make sure you try to understand what they are trying to prevent.

Please provide valid proof of such a reply if you are sure of what your saying

Yes, and none of  us just woke up one morning and decided to start trading Bitcoin without any knowledge of it. Definitely if you are my brother and you want to start trading bitcoin when I know you just heard about it for the first time and have no clue or learnt about it, I will discourage you not to trade because I am concerned so you wont lose your money. Stop getting it all wrong no one here discourages anyone to not make good use of the opportunities that comes with  Bitcoin, they all want your success. That is why they encourage newbies to learn how to trade first before thinking of trading with their had earned money. Most persons have had a terrible experience when trading bitcoin because no one to guide and teach them, they went all in because of curiosity, ignorance, and conviction from success stories they have heard.

Thank you for stating this. I have not seen a thread on this forum before that claimed trading was not appropriate for new users. As long as you are aware of the risks involved, no one will stop you from doing what you want here. In fact, anything related to bitcoin activities is open to anyone who wants to participate. You can trade with your own money, and no one else will profit from your trading's losses or gains. This is a public forum where lots of people visit to get investment advice for bitcoin or any other crypto currency.

I'm sorry to say this, but from what I've seen, you had nothing to say, which is why you posted about people discouraging newcomers from trading bitcoin in this forum. As you are posting, at the very least you should have the proof or a link to the post in this forum to convince people to believe you. I've been a member of this forum for a long time, and I've never seen any member discourage newcomers from trading bitcoin before; I only know that they warn them about the risk associated with everything in bitcoin.

I haven't seen anything on this topic that would discourage a newbie; if you post a question about anything you don't understand, someone will respond with the appropriate information. The reason why they said trading is not meant for everyone is because it depends on how each of us has the knowledge about it and understands how to hold it. We need to know how it operates and how much risk is involved in it. Knowing all of this is very important because without it, trading would be impossible. No one will discourage newbies in the forum other than to offer advice and guidance so that they may understand what their involvement includes and which path they need to take. If they lose money, that is when you will see some newbie whining in the topic claiming they were scammed. Don't be mistaken; this forum is not intended to be rude to any newbie. As you mentioned, we were all once beginners, and this forum will always be there to help us with everything we don't understand.

Never that I discouraged anyone either newbie or old timer about bitcoin
but about altcoins and those completely Shitcoins? i kept calling the attention of the people specially my closest friend and family to stay away.
actually you forgot to add in list about "Asking Bitcointalk community about your plans" because for me there is no better place than this forum to help us understand what we wanted to learn.

Yes, we always want to encourage others about bitcoin. But in some cases it is necessary to warn them. .
1. Newbies here should not go into trade. (First you need to know about bitcoin well)
2. Trying to talk about what is being discussed in the place.
3. Your bitcoin wallet can be hacked. He was given high security.
4. Seek advice from a good expert when buying bitcoin.
5. Investing in the wrong place without understanding is more likely to lose everyone's money.

The forum has a structure oriented to different topics, and in a way no one should be discouraged, in fact that in itself is formative, hence, If you are discouraged by such comments, maybe is not your forum.

There is something that many of those users have in common that you want to defend, laziness, in concesequence...  the issue is how to propose your novitiate.

The forum is in a way a discussion niche par excellence and that requires prior training, let's say what, you have to have a level, at least something basic, that way there should not be so many recurring questions basic questions that are asked on different topics, that is, learn about those topics.

The forum search/boards engine can help you find those relative questions and read, you have to inform yourself, it is very easy to open a new topic and ask, how to start? In fact, if you read the rules of the forum, they state that repetitive topics should not be opened.

Some examples, a classic question is:
How do I get started in trading if I don't have experience?

That question has been asked hundreds of times.

A better question is:
I started three months ago and followed this strategy (source), then my results were: "shows some data", What do you think I'm doing wrong, must I be making some mistakes?

In other words, there are users who are very lazy, do not do the basic task and consequently receive such responses, that in any case to be fair there is always an equivalence in discouragement and encouragement.

And as I mentioned, any slip to any proposal about anything only has to be seen as an opinion from which you only take what really serves you, then if there is a trend in the orientation of those responses, that is, several users are on that same idea, surely some of what they tell you may be right,  but even everything depends on the topic and the board.

I can't deny that there are types of users who reply with words that are a little harsher than usual which might make beginners a little uncomfortable.
But believe me there are more friendly people here. Even though sometimes their delivery method is a little unfriendly, believe me it is for the good of the beginner. And it would indeed be better if the way of conveying information, whether in the form of criticism or suggestions, could be in language that was smoother but easier to understand.

But in discussion forums things like this are commonplace. And I actually enjoy the diversity of characters and characteristics of the users on this forum. Because this diversity makes everything more lively and not boring.

But I agree that we all start as beginners. And yes I understand how it felt when I was also a beginner. But what I do is continue to think positively and take lessons from everything I have gone through and encountered. Likewise on this forum. And after I felt how I was treated when I was a beginner, I also learned to treat them as best as I could.
So keep learning and stay enthusiastic. Because remember, sometimes a teacher who is strict with his students actually makes the students smarter. as long as the student continues to think positively about his teacher.

So keep positif thinking

Taking risks means to invest. We still can move on from being a newbie to experienced, by simply reading and researching. We can as well practice what we have learned using the demo version of some platform. There are people who are into crypto but still discourage others to continue. So, these people can sell early and they will acquire those Bitcoins at cheap rates. It is a kind of tactic but it's only unethical.

People give advice according to their experiences. Sometimes it's not wrong to get advice from one person only because it can already give you the answer that you need and if we seek from others opinions, our decisions can change because they can give wrong information.

Nobody discourages new members from trading bitcoin; people try to educate them that bitcoin trading is not for new users because trading is not like bitcoin investment. The reason why they say bitcoin trading is not for new users is that most of the new users here may see it as easy without having fundamental knowledge of it. They will think of trading bitcoin, which is bad and will result in losing their money completely, so the forum users try to tell them they should go and learn about it before they start talking about trading. That is what they mean when they say bitcoin trading is not for newcomers.


Actually, you need to learn something before you start practicing it, but when we are talking about bitcoin trading here, you cannot just start learning trading today and decide to trade tomorrow. I assure you, you’ll lose because by then you haven’t gotten the knowledge that is required, but if you think what they are saying is not right and you can trade on your own without the knowledge, then good luck.