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Topic: STOP MAKING ALT COINS!!! diluting value..... (Read 2252 times)

hero member
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I think there is room for many coins. There should be. It is just the sheer volume of new coins in the last couple of months that is the problem. I can't even keep up with them anymore.

If no more new coins were made for a year then things would sort themselves out. Some would die others would do well. But with more coming out almost every day, it is having a negative effect on all of them, people don't know what to think. One new coin is basically the same as another. They are not distinguishing themselves.

Thats when you learn to spot those that are somewhat decent.

Ive said that you do almost need to other coins with low dif or have been out a bit with low difficulty... because mining say... LTC is impossible for a normal user. I know many think of it as an investment... but those are not the people you dont need to target... its those that are not sure. Those that are not sure dont have more than 300kh and if they cant mine they aint gonna stick with the cryptos.
legendary
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ParalleCoin's ruler from the shadow
OK, for now it is anarchy in crypto coin world, but by the time it will thrive in to something that is stable and usable.
... I hope so Cheesy

But for now I share opinion that is better to put effort in one or two currencies , although making more and more alt coins just assure that banks and system will never succeed in killing this new era in world economy.
So.. at the end ... new world order will come out from anarchy, not from system as they think! Cheesy
sr. member
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I think there is room for many coins. There should be. It is just the sheer volume of new coins in the last couple of months that is the problem. I can't even keep up with them anymore.

If no more new coins were made for a year then things would sort themselves out. Some would die others would do well. But with more coming out almost every day, it is having a negative effect on all of them, people don't know what to think. One new coin is basically the same as another. They are not distinguishing themselves.
hero member
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If you want to buy oil futures do you think you can do that in Zimbabwe dollars? No. You have to convert, this is why USD is king.

Great. What happens if the US defaults or loses its status with the USD? It has happened many times over time. Learn some economics.

I agree, the USD is shit long term but in the short term it is still king. Oil is still traded in USD.

Point I am trying to make is RYC is to BTC what some third world country currency is to USD. It is not going to effect it.

The alt coins are acting differently then currencies that have their own country though because those currencies no matter how mis-managed still have markets where you can buy and sell stuff. Most of these Alts don't, you have to convert back to BTC and to a lessor extent LTC to do anything with them.

The more different Alts you have being converted to BTC so people can cash out the more they all drop vs. BTC.

What you say is very true. But in the dust of all the alt coins coming out, there are a few that have some thought behind it.  What we as a community is learn from them.

I still think you need more than 1 "USD" because what happens if something goes wrong? Now EVERYTHING comes crashing down... and no... you need more than one or 2
sr. member
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If you want to buy oil futures do you think you can do that in Zimbabwe dollars? No. You have to convert, this is why USD is king.

Great. What happens if the US defaults or loses its status with the USD? It has happened many times over time. Learn some economics.

I agree, the USD is shit long term but in the short term it is still king. Oil is still traded in USD.

Point I am trying to make is RYC is to BTC what some third world country currency is to USD. It is not going to effect it.

The alt coins are acting differently then currencies that have their own country though because those currencies no matter how mis-managed still have markets where you can buy and sell stuff. Most of these Alts don't, you have to convert back to BTC and to a lessor extent LTC to do anything with them.

The more different Alts you have being converted to BTC so people can cash out the more they all drop vs. BTC.
hero member
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If you want to buy oil futures do you think you can do that in Zimbabwe dollars? No. You have to convert, this is why USD is king.

Great. What happens if the US defaults or loses its status with the USD? It has happened many times over time. Learn some economics.

when has the USD not been the currency of the us?

Yes but your talking about buying oil. You think the USD would be as strong if oil was traded in Euro? That is what I thought you were talking about. The price of oil is set on the USD
The facts are there. Since the release of all these altcoins the value of LTC only down. Coincidence or consequence?
There's good reason to believe that there's a cause and effect, and it obvious that the output of all these altcoins is not good for the reputation of altcoins general. And the price of altcoins is directly related to their reputation.
Make altcoins only to repay GPUs, I think is quite wrong in the long term.

your full of shit. Its been stated many times that LTC is over valued not due to alt coins but due to other factors. Stop blaming losses on alt coins.

A majority of people that dont mine think BTC is a scam. Thats not even talking about alt coins.

Look, all the whining in the world will not stop the creation nor the trading of other alt coins.
sr. member
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Counterparty Developer
The facts are there. Since the release of all these altcoins the value of LTC only down. Coincidence or consequence?
There's good reason to believe that there's a cause and effect, and it obvious that the output of all these altcoins is not good for the reputation of altcoins general. And the price of altcoins is directly related to their reputation.
Make altcoins only to repay GPUs, I think is quite wrong in the long term.
hero member
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The Last NXT Founder
If you want to buy oil futures do you think you can do that in Zimbabwe dollars? No. You have to convert, this is why USD is king.

Great. What happens if the US defaults or loses its status with the USD? It has happened many times over time. Learn some economics.

when has the USD not been the currency of the us?
hero member
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If you want to buy oil futures do you think you can do that in Zimbabwe dollars? No. You have to convert, this is why USD is king.

Great. What happens if the US defaults or loses its status with the USD? It has happened many times over time. Learn some economics.
hero member
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So now that everything is down another 25-50% am I making a valid point?
no no you dont. You think the USD goes down because some country made (printed) more money?

You can buy anything with USD, Zimbabwe printing is not going to effect it. That is my point.

In the cryptocurrency marketplace BTC is like the USD. You can buy the most stuff with it. Some no name alt coin is not going to effect it. It will however effect other no name alt coins.

You can't buy stuff with all these new alt unless you convert, they are basically all diluting the same pool.

What you are sounding like is that you got your eggs in one or 2 alt coins. Your worried about your "investment"

Welcome to open source and free market bud.

BTW, the market decided what a coin is worth. If people want it they buy it.

The makers of alt coins are not the people you need to be upset about. You need to be upset at the big miners who can mine thousands of a said coin and then dump them. THAT is what affects the price more than alt coins being made.
sr. member
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If you want to buy oil futures do you think you can do that in Zimbabwe dollars? No. You have to convert, this is why USD is king.
sr. member
Activity: 336
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So now that everything is down another 25-50% am I making a valid point?
no no you dont. You think the USD goes down because some country made (printed) more money?

You can buy anything with USD, Zimbabwe printing is not going to effect it. That is my point.

In the cryptocurrency marketplace BTC is like the USD. You can buy the most stuff with it. Some no name alt coin is not going to effect it. It will however effect other no name alt coins.

You can't buy stuff with all these new alt unless you convert, they are basically all diluting the same pool.
hero member
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So now that everything is down another 25-50% am I making a valid point?
no no you dont. You think the USD goes down because some country made (printed) more money?
legendary
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I dont see anyone trying to dictate which cryptos should be successful and have any pull in stating that.

The free market has so far decided that LTC and BTC > These new copy cat coins including FTC.

BTW FTC Time to Retarget   23 day(s), 7 hour(s), 33 min, 28 sec
I would hope so.

FTC dev is so incompetent that he couldn't even create his own genesis block. He used the same one as Litecoin.
sr. member
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So now that everything is down another 25-50% am I making a valid point?
legendary
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Stop telling people what to do.
legendary
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I had the same thoughts as OP.

Now I found that they do not affect BTC or LTC at all, altcoins are just a quick way to "scam" BTC and LTC out of greedy traders that want to be on the top of the bubble when it bursts, some end up at the top and some at the bottom of the bubble.

Exactly. BTC and LTC are holding strong. That is because they have markets and it isn't just speculative money invested.

Pretty much everything else seems to be in a down trend.

I know this is going to come off insensitive, but I just can't help myself.  For the US portion of the crypto community, what are public schools teaching? I don't understand the need to try to control which coins are successful. Let the free market decide... period.  If a few coins break out into other markets, more power to them.  If these same coins become Fontas's pump/dump toy, more power to them. Too many central planners, that's how we got in trouble in the first place.

Support what you believe in, #$@# the rest of them.

I dont see anyone trying to dictate which cryptos should be successful and have any pull in stating that.

The free market has so far decided that LTC and BTC > These new copy cat coins including FTC.

BTW FTC Time to Retarget   23 day(s), 7 hour(s), 33 min, 28 sec

And that is rising due to hash dropping
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
I had the same thoughts as OP.

Now I found that they do not affect BTC or LTC at all, altcoins are just a quick way to "scam" BTC and LTC out of greedy traders that want to be on the top of the bubble when it bursts, some end up at the top and some at the bottom of the bubble.

Exactly. BTC and LTC are holding strong. That is because they have markets and it isn't just speculative money invested.

Pretty much everything else seems to be in a down trend.

I know this is going to come off insensitive, but I just can't help myself.  For the US portion of the crypto community, what are public schools teaching? I don't understand the need to try to control which coins are successful. Let the free market decide... period.  If a few coins break out into other markets, more power to them.  If these same coins become Fontas's pump/dump toy, more power to them. Too many central planners, that's how we got in trouble in the first place.

Support what you believe in, #$@# the rest of them.

I dont see anyone trying to dictate which cryptos should be successful and have any pull in stating that.

The free market has so far decided that LTC and BTC > These new copy cat coins including FTC.

BTW FTC Time to Retarget   23 day(s), 7 hour(s), 33 min, 28 sec
legendary
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Anyone with a brain can tell the difference between yet another altcoin and a decent altcoin.

While its possible to advise that the value of all coins is going to get effected, there is very little that can be done, except let people find out the hard way, as well as make sure you are not involved in it.

I think we are going through a very difficult time in we have a market that is getting bored with the stability and wants something to gamble with.

Its just like every get rich scheme, its its too good to be true, its too good to be true!

Agreed theirs too many pump and dump out their and many people do know when theirs a good one that comes so far I seen nothing good yet FTC I could of had 20 BTC for my coins but am still holding them maybe someday they will grow to something better than that when it first started but who knows alt coins are alt coins and a pump and dump in most cases.

Only main ones BTC,LTC,TRC,PPC rest are just pump dump in my view currently.
sr. member
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