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Topic: stop mining at ghash.io you FUCKTARDS - page 3. (Read 7530 times)

Biomech

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Quote from: aynstein on January 11, 2014, 10:45:39 AM

Quote from: spooderman on January 11, 2014, 05:41:55 AM

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Quote from: hyphymikey on January 10, 2014, 06:58:12 AM

Someone please make a bitminter type client for p2pool

Really? If I make you a client you would mine p2pool?

If you're not being sarcastic....yes!

Do you think many other would? What type of hardware do you mine with? The "client" is just a guy over cgminer or bfgminer I can't remember which.

I would certainly try it. I'm still experimenting anyway. Started on Eligius, went to BTCguild while he's getting that fixed, was gonna try Bitminter next. Prolly still am. So far, I like Eligius the best, but time and experience will tell. Once I get more equipment, I'll probably mine more than one pool/method anyway. I have yet to try p2pool, so why not?

dyask

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Quote from: spooderman on January 10, 2014, 03:37:39 AM

Quote from: malevolent on January 09, 2014, 11:43:40 AM

Quote from: Jcw188 on January 09, 2014, 10:27:36 AM

Quote from: malevolent on January 09, 2014, 06:40:57 AM

I don't remember people panicking as much with deepbit in 2011.

did deepbit try to double spend on a dice game?

There were no dice games to double spend on at the time, but people are forgetting two things:

a) it is possible to double spend with less than 51% and for some reason...
b) ... it happens very, very rarely. Miners don't have the incentive to undermine peoples' trust in Bitcoin.

B = Don't care, I don't want someone to have the option.
A = I know, that is why I'm saying stop NOW rather than "wait until they get exactly 51% and then stop." Obviously I would like noone to have more than about 10%.

Wow! That kind of thinking seems to be common. With a fiat currency there is a vast amount of crimes and fraud. Yet fiat currencies survive just fine. Most likely Bitcoin would survive a 51% attack and whoever did it would be found out. Then it would be a matter for the courts. The fear is irrational.

However, if there were an attack it probably won't happen from a pool, it will probably come from a government that has vast resources compared to the Bitcoin network. In that case there isn't anything that can be done to prevent it and all this running around and screaming about ghash.io is just a waste.

Holliday

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Quote from: oakpacific on January 10, 2014, 05:25:28 AM

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Quote from: malevolent on January 09, 2014, 11:43:40 AM

Miners don't have the incentive to undermine peoples' trust in Bitcoin.

Well... not until JPMorgan Chase decides to provide the incentive for a large pool operator to attack Bitcoin....

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Miners can find out easily and will complain loudly, "I found a block, but my node doesn't even see it on the network! Something fishy must be going on with the pool!"

I think you put too much faith in your typical hasher...

Should an attack come from centralization of the hashing power, it's damage will already be done before the miners can react. This is why a proactive approach is preferred (do not centralize the hashing power).

Gator-hex

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Quote from: spooderman on January 12, 2014, 04:55:44 PM

Quote from: aynstein on January 11, 2014, 10:45:39 AM

Quote from: spooderman on January 11, 2014, 05:41:55 AM

Quote from: aynstein on January 11, 2014, 05:34:03 AM

Quote from: hyphymikey on January 10, 2014, 06:58:12 AM

Someone please make a bitminter type client for p2pool

Really? If I make you a client you would mine p2pool?

If you're not being sarcastic....yes!

Do you think many other would? What type of hardware do you mine with? The "client" is just a guy over cgminer or bfgminer I can't remember which.

I mine with a bfl. Plan to mine with a blackarrow or something in the future.

GHash sells the bitcoins directly to investors which is a big draw to people who want to mine fiat.

I'm using Bitminter and avoiding big pools because I like to spend in Bitcoins to help start a Bitcoin economy. If people only mine for fiat no Bitcoin economy will get off the ground.

I also use P2Pools as mybackups, they need no account and I love getting virgin unspent coins, but the main problem with it is that it's frequent micro payments. You need a lot of hashing power to get it to pay out over the 0.001BTC dust level per block.

BTW: www.p2pool.org is not the only option. Also check out http://p2pool.hostv.pl/ for a list of others.

spooderman

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Quote from: aynstein on January 11, 2014, 10:45:39 AM

Quote from: spooderman on January 11, 2014, 05:41:55 AM

Quote from: aynstein on January 11, 2014, 05:34:03 AM

Quote from: hyphymikey on January 10, 2014, 06:58:12 AM

Someone please make a bitminter type client for p2pool

Really? If I make you a client you would mine p2pool?

If you're not being sarcastic....yes!

Do you think many other would? What type of hardware do you mine with? The "client" is just a guy over cgminer or bfgminer I can't remember which.

I mine with a bfl. Plan to mine with a blackarrow or something in the future.

needbmw

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Quote from: Jcw188 on January 09, 2014, 10:27:36 AM

Quote from: malevolent on January 09, 2014, 06:40:57 AM

I don't remember people panicking as much with deepbit in 2011.

did deepbit try to double spend on a dice game?

+1
stay away of this pool

aynstein

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Fortune favors the bold, and sometimes the bald.

Quote from: spooderman on January 11, 2014, 05:41:55 AM

Quote from: aynstein on January 11, 2014, 05:34:03 AM

Quote from: hyphymikey on January 10, 2014, 06:58:12 AM

Someone please make a bitminter type client for p2pool

Really? If I make you a client you would mine p2pool?

If you're not being sarcastic....yes!

Do you think many other would? What type of hardware do you mine with? The "client" is just a guy over cgminer or bfgminer I can't remember which.

spooderman

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Quote from: aynstein on January 11, 2014, 05:34:03 AM

Quote from: hyphymikey on January 10, 2014, 06:58:12 AM

Someone please make a bitminter type client for p2pool

Really? If I make you a client you would mine p2pool?

If you're not being sarcastic....yes!

aynstein

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Fortune favors the bold, and sometimes the bald.

Quote from: hyphymikey on January 10, 2014, 06:58:12 AM

Someone please make a bitminter type client for p2pool

Really? If I make you a client you would mine p2pool?

hyphymikey

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Someone please make a bitminter type client for p2pool

oakpacific

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Quote from: malevolent on January 09, 2014, 11:43:40 AM

Miners don't have the incentive to undermine peoples' trust in Bitcoin.

Well... not until JPMorgan Chase decides to provide the incentive for a large pool operator to attack Bitcoin....

Wink

Wink

Miners can find out easily and will complain loudly, "I found a block, but my node doesn't even see it on the network! Something fishy must be going on with the pool!"

spooderman

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Quote from: malevolent on January 09, 2014, 11:43:40 AM

Quote from: Jcw188 on January 09, 2014, 10:27:36 AM

Quote from: malevolent on January 09, 2014, 06:40:57 AM

I don't remember people panicking as much with deepbit in 2011.

did deepbit try to double spend on a dice game?

There were no dice games to double spend on at the time, but people are forgetting two things:

a) it is possible to double spend with less than 51% and for some reason...
b) ... it happens very, very rarely. Miners don't have the incentive to undermine peoples' trust in Bitcoin.

B = Don't care, I don't want someone to have the option.
A = I know, that is why I'm saying stop NOW rather than "wait until they get exactly 51% and then stop." Obviously I would like noone to have more than about 10%.

malevolent

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Quote from: Jcw188 on January 09, 2014, 10:27:36 AM

Quote from: malevolent on January 09, 2014, 06:40:57 AM

I don't remember people panicking as much with deepbit in 2011.

did deepbit try to double spend on a dice game?

There were no dice games to double spend on at the time, but people are forgetting two things:

a) it is possible to double spend with less than 51% and for some reason...
b) ... it happens very, very rarely. Miners don't have the incentive to undermine peoples' trust in Bitcoin.

Jcw188

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Carpe Diem

Quote from: malevolent on January 09, 2014, 06:40:57 AM

I don't remember people panicking as much with deepbit in 2011.

did deepbit try to double spend on a dice game?

fusioncoins

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How many of Ghash are Cex.io member?
For them won't be easy to change the pool...

mikep2012

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great panic. much wow Grin

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Carlton Banks

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Quote from: HellDiverUK on January 09, 2014, 08:51:09 AM

Quote from: spooderman on January 09, 2014, 08:47:31 AM

I use eligius. But we should all use p2pool tbh

We should. Shame they won't fix the bugs that break p2pool for ASICs...

STFU with your selfish disinformation. All because the model of ASIC you own are the only ones that don't work on p2pool (which is down to the design of that hardware, nothing anyone can do to make them work). All other ASICs have been working there for a while now (~150-200 TH/s in the last few weeks).

HellDiverUK

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Quote from: spooderman on January 09, 2014, 08:47:31 AM

I use eligius. But we should all use p2pool tbh

We should. Shame they won't fix the bugs that break p2pool for ASICs...

spooderman

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I use eligius. But we should all use p2pool tbh

Mowcore

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dammit, I was just about to ask for a signed avatar...

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