Being moved out of the address they were sent to...
https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf
Topic: Stop saying the Bitstamp coins were dumped!! They are right $%&#ing here -- > - page 4. (Read 5608 times)
January 07, 2015, 04:52:03 AM
OK... here they go...
Being moved out of the address they were sent to...
https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf
Being moved out of the address they were sent to...
https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf
January 07, 2015, 03:42:12 AM
Omg what did I miss now :/
Magicman420?
Wait... Magic. + man, and men are know to wear Tuxedo's. + 420.... $4.20... the price of a Frappuccino!!!
MagicalTux... is that you!!
January 07, 2015, 03:38:32 AM
Everybody is talking about the price crash of Bitcoin because of the Bitstamp hack, and I am just sitting here mastur ... ahm ... looking at the price going up again ...
No, it's actually going down. Your screen just isn't refreshing fast enough.
January 07, 2015, 03:32:59 AM
Everybody is talking about the price crash of Bitcoin because of the Bitstamp hack, and I am just sitting here mastur ... ahm ... looking at the price going up again ...
January 07, 2015, 03:28:51 AM
People keep attributing the fall to $270 on the 19k coins being dumped on Finex or other exchange(s). This is not the case!! The coins haven't moved out of the address they were sent to ----- > https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf
The price crash could be because people think the coins might get dumped.
January 07, 2015, 03:26:02 AM
Hey, have you guys heard the news? The price is tanking because of all those dumped Bitstamp coins. lol
I thought it was because of all those BFL Monarch bitcoin miners that are about to go online, thus increasing the difficulty.
January 07, 2015, 03:21:41 AM
Omg what did I miss now :/
Not much. The price is dropping like a rock because some thief is selling all the Bitstamp coins. ROFL
January 07, 2015, 02:20:21 AM
Omg what did I miss now :/
January 07, 2015, 01:10:17 AM
People keep attributing the fall to $270 on the 19k coins being dumped on Finex or other exchange(s). This is not the case!! The coins haven't moved out of the address they were sent to ----- > https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf
Could the fall have been due to dumping precipitated by insider info..? yes. Were the hacked Bitstamp coins dumped..? no. Can the coins be dumped..? not easily and definitely not in a way that is going to crash the market further.
So just stop... please... thanks already...
No one say the price crash because of the stolen coin.Could the fall have been due to dumping precipitated by insider info..? yes. Were the hacked Bitstamp coins dumped..? no. Can the coins be dumped..? not easily and definitely not in a way that is going to crash the market further.
So just stop... please... thanks already...
True..the price was already falling b4 this incident happened.!! lol only after it BTC became stable.!
January 07, 2015, 12:26:50 AM
I guess people see that coins are stolen and sell in anticipation of a dump by the thief.
January 06, 2015, 11:45:44 PM
Hey, have you guys heard the news? The price is tanking because of all those dumped Bitstamp coins. lol
January 06, 2015, 11:27:06 PM
I think this make people very difficult to trace that. (of course not 100% impossible)
He can buy 18K BTC worth of darkcoin, run it through 50 addresses, use it to buy 18k BTC worth of carrots in california, truck them to florida, sell those for oranges, truck those to New York and sell those for doge and we'll STILL know where the funds are.
Exactly! That's why every satoshi of the 25K BTC stolen from allinvain was returned to him thanks to a similar tracking system you just described: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-just-got-hacked-any-help-is-welcome-25000-btc-stolen-16457
Rumor has it that the BTC that Tom Williams stole four years ago is going to be found and returned next week.
The Mt Gox stolen coins is a different story. Investigators are combing through Mark Karpele's apple pie recipe books to see if he stored the passwords in its margins.
I am sorry I don't understand how the tracking system work.
Let say the thief send 5 BTC to a new address , then use shapeshift convert the coin to darkcoin. Assume he hide his IP during the whole process
How to trace to the thief diectly??
just a curious noob question
January 06, 2015, 10:22:07 PM
People keep attributing the fall to $270 on the 19k coins being dumped on Finex or other exchange(s). This is not the case!! The coins haven't moved out of the address they were sent to ----- > https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf
Could the fall have been due to dumping precipitated by insider info..? yes. Were the hacked Bitstamp coins dumped..? no. Can the coins be dumped..? not easily and definitely not in a way that is going to crash the market further.
So just stop... please... thanks already...
Come on, wise up. If they have other coins they can sell those and still be long coins... No need to sell these ones yet. Could the fall have been due to dumping precipitated by insider info..? yes. Were the hacked Bitstamp coins dumped..? no. Can the coins be dumped..? not easily and definitely not in a way that is going to crash the market further.
So just stop... please... thanks already...
January 06, 2015, 09:03:48 PM
Price dropped because all the Bitstamp coins were dumped.
Lol.
FUD seems to rule short term, but as the fiat price has born out, not over the long term.
January 06, 2015, 09:00:59 PM
if Karpeles can launder 750,000 bitcoins, it can be done.
All those coins were off-blockchain and the database that should match those internal address with the blockchain was tampered with. That's why we haven't been able to follow those coins. Although the 200,000 that were 'found' was due to Karpeles displaying proof of solvency several years back by signing a public address that he controlled. The community saw that those 200,000 coins were linked back to that address. So yeah, on-blockchain transactions are difficult to obfuscate.
How do you get/create/buy/sell coins off-blockchain?
Every time you send Bitcoins to an exchange you in effect no longer have any Bitcoin. What you have are numbers in a database and a promise that Bitcoin will be returned to you when you request them. Those numbers in the database are off-blockchain transactions of 'Bitcoin'
Why? That is a big security flaw. A ledger is a ledger is a ledger. Is this true for all cryptos?
Yes, this is true of all cryptos. There are only a few online services that actually let you control your own coins. Blockchain.info is the most well-know and I think maybe Coinkite and Greenaddress? That's why you see people in the forums always telling people to keep their coins offline in cold storage and not on exchanges.
Well any exchange that allows off-blockchain, IMO, is a scamhive. Exchanges need to be eliminated from the swap process.
January 06, 2015, 08:56:06 PM
if Karpeles can launder 750,000 bitcoins, it can be done.
All those coins were off-blockchain and the database that should match those internal address with the blockchain was tampered with. That's why we haven't been able to follow those coins. Although the 200,000 that were 'found' was due to Karpeles displaying proof of solvency several years back by signing a public address that he controlled. The community saw that those 200,000 coins were linked back to that address. So yeah, on-blockchain transactions are difficult to obfuscate.
How do you get/create/buy/sell coins off-blockchain?
Every time you send Bitcoins to an exchange you in effect no longer have any Bitcoin. What you have are numbers in a database and a promise that Bitcoin will be returned to you when you request them. Those numbers in the database are off-blockchain transactions of 'Bitcoin'
Why? That is a big security flaw. A ledger is a ledger is a ledger. Is this true for all cryptos?
Yes, this is true of all cryptos. There are only a few online services that actually let you control your own coins. Blockchain.info is the most well-know and I think maybe Coinkite and Greenaddress? That's why you see people in the forums always telling people to keep their coins offline in cold storage and not on exchanges.
January 06, 2015, 08:51:08 PM
if Karpeles can launder 750,000 bitcoins, it can be done.
All those coins were off-blockchain and the database that should match those internal address with the blockchain was tampered with. That's why we haven't been able to follow those coins. Although the 200,000 that were 'found' was due to Karpeles displaying proof of solvency several years back by signing a public address that he controlled. The community saw that those 200,000 coins were linked back to that address. So yeah, on-blockchain transactions are difficult to obfuscate.
How do you get/create/buy/sell coins off-blockchain?
Every time you send Bitcoins to an exchange you in effect no longer have any Bitcoin. What you have are numbers in a database and a promise that Bitcoin will be returned to you when you request them. Those numbers in the database are off-blockchain transactions of 'Bitcoin'
Why? That is a big security flaw. A ledger is a ledger is a ledger. Is this true for all cryptos?
January 06, 2015, 08:48:42 PM
if Karpeles can launder 750,000 bitcoins, it can be done.
All those coins were off-blockchain and the database that should match those internal address with the blockchain was tampered with. That's why we haven't been able to follow those coins. Although the 200,000 that were 'found' was due to Karpeles displaying proof of solvency several years back by signing a public address that he controlled. The community saw that those 200,000 coins were linked back to that address. So yeah, on-blockchain transactions are difficult to obfuscate.
How do you get/create/buy/sell coins off-blockchain?
Every time you send Bitcoins to an exchange you in effect no longer have any Bitcoin. What you have are numbers in a database and a promise that Bitcoin will be returned to you when you request them. Those numbers in the database are off-blockchain transactions of 'Bitcoin'
January 06, 2015, 08:42:58 PM
No multisig?
January 06, 2015, 08:40:14 PM
if Karpeles can launder 750,000 bitcoins, it can be done.
All those coins were off-blockchain and the database that should match those internal address with the blockchain was tampered with. That's why we haven't been able to follow those coins. Although the 200,000 that were 'found' was due to Karpeles displaying proof of solvency several years back by signing a public address that he controlled. The community saw that those 200,000 coins were linked back to that address. So yeah, on-blockchain transactions are difficult to obfuscate.
How do you get/create/buy/sell coins off-blockchain?
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