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sr. member
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October 04, 2014, 04:36:22 PM
#31
You definitely have made a loss, even if you haven't actually sold.
Really how so sure? What price did I buy?

"Weak Hands" are looking like "Smart Hands" each day that passes the way things are going.

By the way the "Calling the bottom at 350" threads are now outdated, lets get some more "Calling the bottom at 300" threads  going until Monday.

Thank you. Clearly the amount of price manipulation dine by mt gox has still not been priced in. I think prices will continue to sink diwn to around $200 or more by the end of the year. There is just absolutely no demand for btc at all. Only in the minds of the bulls in this forum. I dont think overall usage is up either. Yes more wallets are in existance, but coinbase creates a new ine for you like every week or so automatically. Using the "more wallets in existance" is a very bad way to track usage. I think all the new metchanys have done is get some holders to spend some btc, while not managing ti attract any new interest by the general public

I am normally pretty bullish when it comes to BTC, because I believe in the technology but I totally follow what jcoin200 is saying.
Most miners today are running negative numbers, and they need to sell their coins to pay for operation costs.
I just don't see how the bitcoin ecosystem can get enough new buyers to pressure the price up.
Someone have to buy all the bitcoins that the miners are dumping, and if there is not enough buyers, well, the price will continue go down.


New buyers aren't going to be attracted for a while. They're going to see the price tanking, and unless they're "True Believers", they won't be buying in until the price crash stops, whatever number that may be.
sr. member
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October 04, 2014, 04:35:10 PM
#30
 The price will  raise  (  I think)  in the next block reward halving (2016) .


That halving has been priced in for years. It's one of the reasons BTC might stay in the lofty heights of the double digit territory until November, when it probably enters the single digits and the final capitulation.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1062
One coin to rule them all
October 04, 2014, 04:31:22 PM
#29
You definitely have made a loss, even if you haven't actually sold.
Really how so sure? What price did I buy?

"Weak Hands" are looking like "Smart Hands" each day that passes the way things are going.

By the way the "Calling the bottom at 350" threads are now outdated, lets get some more "Calling the bottom at 300" threads  going until Monday.

Thank you. Clearly the amount of price manipulation dine by mt gox has still not been priced in. I think prices will continue to sink diwn to around $200 or more by the end of the year. There is just absolutely no demand for btc at all. Only in the minds of the bulls in this forum. I dont think overall usage is up either. Yes more wallets are in existance, but coinbase creates a new ine for you like every week or so automatically. Using the "more wallets in existance" is a very bad way to track usage. I think all the new metchanys have done is get some holders to spend some btc, while not managing ti attract any new interest by the general public

I am normally pretty bullish when it comes to BTC, because I believe in the technology but I totally follow what jcoin200 is saying.
Most miners today are running negative numbers, and they need to sell their coins to pay for operation costs.
I just don't see how the bitcoin ecosystem can get enough new buyers to pressure the price up.
Someone have to buy all the bitcoins that the miners are dumping, and if there is not enough buyers, well, the price will continue go down.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1016
October 04, 2014, 04:26:22 PM
#28
You definitely have made a loss, even if you haven't actually sold.
Really how so sure? What price did I buy?

"Weak Hands" are looking like "Smart Hands" each day that passes the way things are going.

By the way the "Calling the bottom at 350" threads are now outdated, lets get some more "Calling the bottom at 300" threads  going until Monday.
That didn't answer my question.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
October 04, 2014, 04:25:03 PM
#27
You definitely have made a loss, even if you haven't actually sold.
Really how so sure? What price did I buy?

"Weak Hands" are looking like "Smart Hands" each day that passes the way things are going.

By the way the "Calling the bottom at 350" threads are now outdated, lets get some more "Calling the bottom at 300" threads  going until Monday.

Thank you. Clearly the amount of price manipulation dine by mt gox has still not been priced in. I think prices will continue to sink diwn to around $200 or more by the end of the year. There is just absolutely no demand for btc at all. Only in the minds of the bulls in this forum. I dont think overall usage is up either. Yes more wallets are in existance, but coinbase creates a new ine for you like every week or so automatically. Using the "more wallets in existance" is a very bad way to track usage. I think all the new metchanys have done is get some holders to spend some btc, while not managing ti attract any new interest by the general public
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
October 04, 2014, 04:22:33 PM
#26
they are losing money if they are holding btc.  

You only lose when you sell for less than you paid.

Nobody has ever lost money by holding.



Please stop with this already. It's an unrealized loss, which doesn't make it any less real.

unrealized... how do you know that it won't go up again? magic ass ball? that thing is true, but maybe the sentence is not completed, i repeat it here

until there is a chance to go up again, you won't lose anything if you just hold and don't sell for less than you paid

they are losing money if they are holding btc. 

You only lose when you sell for less than you paid.

Nobody has ever lost money by holding.


Are you literally stupid?

I mean literally, like IQ under 90?

Because you do realise what unrealised losses are?

Or not?

How dumb are you?

read above and tell me how much is your QI now, i think is lower than 90, probably the same number without the zero
sr. member
Activity: 271
Merit: 250
October 04, 2014, 04:16:38 PM
#25
You definitely have made a loss, even if you haven't actually sold.
Really how so sure? What price did I buy?

"Weak Hands" are looking like "Smart Hands" each day that passes the way things are going.

By the way the "Calling the bottom at 350" threads are now outdated, lets get some more "Calling the bottom at 300" threads  going until Monday.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1016
October 04, 2014, 12:31:33 PM
#24
You definitely have made a loss, even if you haven't actually sold.
Really how so sure? What price did I buy?
legendary
Activity: 1762
Merit: 1011
October 04, 2014, 12:19:25 PM
#23
they are losing money if they are holding btc. 

Nobody has ever lost money by holding.


This claim is completely false, though I am currently holding. See my chart here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9075582
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
October 03, 2014, 04:02:31 PM
#22
they are losing money if they are holding btc. 

You only lose when you sell for less than you paid.

Nobody has ever lost money by holding.


Are you literally stupid?

I mean literally, like IQ under 90?

Because you do realise what unrealised losses are?

Or not?

How dumb are you?

I have often marvelled at the stupidity of Dumbotoronto.

It is like the level of intelligence behind the entity posting as Jimbotoronto, is some kind of AI bot, randomly blurting out vague bulltard cliches that can be interpreted to fit practically every different scenario, but of course, shed light or offer insight on none.

If I am wrong, and JimboToronto is a real person, then perhaps his stupidity is worthy of scientific research. Perhaps he is an example of a genetic throwback from the pre Homo-Sapiens era of our evolutionary path?
newbie
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October 03, 2014, 10:22:15 AM
#21
You definitely have made a loss, even if you haven't actually sold.

LOL

No, I haven't made a loss. I did however make a profit when I held my $68 coins after they crashed from $266 all the way down to $50, didn't panic, sold a few for $155 on a "dead cat" bounce, and bought back in at $97, and held when they crashed down to $66.

Good thing I didn't sell and "realize" a loss.

Sometimes I think that around here common sense is as rare as a bear with a 3-digit IQ.

Sigh.

why not say that you bought your coins at $0.01? so you can tell your same double profit good story when bitcoin hit $0.02 later
legendary
Activity: 4200
Merit: 4887
You're never too old to think young.
October 03, 2014, 10:09:59 AM
#20
You definitely have made a loss, even if you haven't actually sold.

LOL

No, I haven't made a loss. I did however make a profit when I held my $68 coins after they crashed from $266 all the way down to $50, didn't panic, sold a few for $155 on a "dead cat" bounce, and bought back in at $97, and held when they crashed down to $66.

Good thing I didn't sell and "realize" a loss.

Sometimes I think that around here common sense is as rare as a bear with a 3-digit IQ.

Sigh.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 255
October 03, 2014, 09:52:13 AM
#19
they are losing money if they are holding btc. 

You only lose when you sell for less than you paid.

Nobody has ever lost money by holding.



Please stop with this already. It's an unrealized loss, which doesn't make it any less real.

Like I said in the op, people defending holding are delusional.  Yes your losses this year are real, but good luck if you are continuing to "strong handedly" take your losses  Grin

Another weak hand on ignore Smiley
Strong hand to the financial grave.

Ignoring people is like ostrich putting head in sand.

Can't see, can't hear, means it's not there right?

Grow up, what are you 12?
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 251
Moon?
October 03, 2014, 09:51:21 AM
#18
they are losing money if they are holding btc. 

You only lose when you sell for less than you paid.

Nobody has ever lost money by holding.



Please stop with this already. It's an unrealized loss, which doesn't make it any less real.

Like I said in the op, people defending holding are delusional.  Yes your losses this year are real, but good luck if you are continuing to "strong handedly" take your losses  Grin

Another weak hand on ignore Smiley
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
October 03, 2014, 09:43:06 AM
#17
they are losing money if they are holding btc. 

You only lose when you sell for less than you paid.

Nobody has ever lost money by holding.



Please stop with this already. It's an unrealized loss, which doesn't make it any less real.

Like I said in the op, people defending holding are delusional.  Yes your losses this year are real, but good luck if you are continuing to "strong handedly" take your losses  Grin
full member
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Merit: 100
October 03, 2014, 09:42:22 AM
#16
You only lose when you sell for less than you paid.

Nobody has ever lost money by holding.



It is incredible how many people on this forum have convinced themselves that this is the case.

Fundamentally, the value of the assets we hold is the amount of utility they can provide, in terms of consumption goods.
Consumer price inflation measures the buying power of fiat.
The current BTC/USD price, adjusted for consumer price inflation (which is tiny compared to BTC/USD volatility), tells you the buying power of BTC.
That buying power has crashed.
You definitely have made a loss, even if you haven't actually sold.
member
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October 03, 2014, 09:37:07 AM
#15
they are losing money if they are holding btc. 

You only lose when you sell for less than you paid.

Nobody has ever lost money by holding.



Please stop with this already. It's an unrealized loss, which doesn't make it any less real.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 255
October 03, 2014, 09:36:13 AM
#14
they are losing money if they are holding btc. 

You only lose when you sell for less than you paid.

Nobody has ever lost money by holding.


Are you literally stupid?

I mean literally, like IQ under 90?

Because you do realise what unrealised losses are?

Or not?

How dumb are you?
legendary
Activity: 4200
Merit: 4887
You're never too old to think young.
October 03, 2014, 09:33:50 AM
#13
they are losing money if they are holding btc. 

You only lose when you sell for less than you paid.

Nobody has ever lost money by holding.

legendary
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October 03, 2014, 09:33:09 AM
#12
Weak hands is not a bitcoin term, it happens in all sorts of investing.
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