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TheBottomTurtle

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Here's the little-known bottom line, direct from Microsoft via https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12373/windows-update-faq. If you use any of the built in Windows tools to "stop" auto-updates they will eventually fail.

In addition, even if you have used gpedit, forcibly stopped the process, tricked it into thinking you're on a metered connection, etc...MS will still silently push what they deem to be critical updates onto your computer using some vehicle other than the standard update process. I haven't been able to figure out exactly how yet. These mini-updates have never caused me problems with my mining, however they occasionally cause the usual windows boot partition to become non-bootable (presumably because of some of the other steps I've taken to neuter windows updates) until I manually select the windows partition from bios and it finishes the ninja update. I'm assuming these are patching major vulnerabilities they've discovered (which would explain why they're never mentioned) so I doubt I would stop them even if I figured out how...but it would be nice to have the choice.

Kasperiko

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Quote from: cepot9 on April 25, 2019, 04:20:25 AM

Windows 10 really sucks in the update because they always do automatic updates and very often it makes us run out of internet data and lose time while waiting for them to restart. you can turn off automatic updates via gpedit or by setting as metered connection in the wifi section so that the windows metics request updates will appear first notification or can't update automatically

These updates are one of the reasons why many users only dream of percussion on the macos system from apple. The option when you completely disable the update solves the problem. But we must understand that there may be security problems because of this.
And here you decide what is more important to you.

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Quote from: aragom on February 04, 2018, 03:36:37 AM

my windows 10 is updating itself. and claymore mining isnt working in new version. everytime it is updating i retruned back.

i am closing all updates. i tried to stop services.msc, gpedit.msc. but everytime it finds a way and is starting own by own. i couldnt stop to update it.

is there any way to hardstop it?

or
is there anyway to mining with new version

anyone has with this trouble?

Maybe you could try to resolve your mining software first since security is paramount to us crypto enthusiasts. I mean if you disable updates with your Windows 10 especially with security updates, you run the risk of your system being compromised and no one would like to be in that situation especially if we store our sensitive files and data on that very same computer. I would not trade mining rewards to having peace of mind due to my system having more security.

cepot9

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Windows 10 really sucks in the update because they always do automatic updates and very often it makes us run out of internet data and lose time while waiting for them to restart. you can turn off automatic updates via gpedit or by setting as metered connection in the wifi section so that the windows metics request updates will appear first notification or can't update automatically

TheHas

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It isn't ideal, but an indirect way of stopping it is to leave not enough room on your hard drive for the update to come through (say less than a couple of gigs. Many mining rigs don't have much hard drive space).

It will try to update, then fail and ask you to uninstall/remove files to make enough space, and instead you just hit cancel and it gives up.

This is not recommended for security reasons but can be a short term fix - best bet is to update your claymore and drivers instead.

Also there are ways to just ask Windows to not update without asking your permission first as other people have said, so the above method is just in case that doesn't work for whatever weird Windows reason.

KryptoKai

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In addition to blocking the windows update services i would suggest changing the location from which you receive those updates. Use policies and choose a fake proxy service and fake wsus address

adterna

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The same case happened to me, Windows 10 always updates itself and that made a problem for me, better looking for other mining methods from Claymore, and that's what I did, because Windows 10 was designed to update itself, so if we are mining using Windows to mine Claymore is very troublesome.

Texxi

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This poor guy is waiting over a year for the solution. Let me lift the veil of the mistery.

Quote from: aragom on February 04, 2018, 03:36:37 AM

my windows 10 is updating itself. and claymore mining isnt working in new version. everytime it is updating i retruned back.

i am closing all updates. i tried to stop services.msc, gpedit.msc. but everytime it finds a way and is starting own by own. i couldnt stop to update it.

is there any way to hardstop it?

or
is there anyway to mining with new version

anyone has with this trouble?

Go to: C:\Windows\System32\Tasks_Migrated\Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator

Take ownership of the file named 'Reboot' via Properties > Security > Advanced

Delete the file. Grin

Create a new FOLDER named 'Reboot' and Write Lock protect it via Properties > Attributes > Read-only

Now your machine unlearned how to restart and will never turn off on its own ever again. Cool

(Additionally, you may want to use OOSU10 to turn off some unwanted windows services like updates.)

If my little trick helped to increase your profits, I'm happy to take a share.

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Quote from: corrado25 on April 24, 2019, 02:39:38 AM

Had the same problem. First I could turn off updates on windows10, but then they started turning on themselves and when I stopped them again after a while, they turned on themselves again. How many I did not try to disconnect, none helped. I still decided to go back to Windows 7 and I'm not sorry at a

Windows 10 brings too many problems. Even if you stop these updates, they can be (magically?) started again. Windows 7 is OK, but as for me, Windows 8 works better and faster. I would recommend you Pro version.

Lizzylove1

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My Window 10 was giving me a hell of constant updates and always asking me to wait when working. Although I use an external wireless network to connect to the internet, which is a MIFI, what I did was to click on the properties of the MIFI connection on my screen, this will lead to Network profile of my MIFI internet settings and connections, I just scroll down and meter network. I now determine when to update anything.

nars28

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This helped me on 1803 build win 10:

https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

P00P135

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Been using this for over a year without any problems. You're welcome https://www.novirusthanks.org/products/win-update-stop/

corrado25

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Had the same problem. First I could turn off updates on windows10, but then they started turning on themselves and when I stopped them again after a while, they turned on themselves again. How many I did not try to disconnect, none helped. I still decided to go back to Windows 7 and I'm not sorry at a

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Quote from: nsummy on April 23, 2019, 03:52:55 PM

Quote from: GhostWithin on April 23, 2019, 02:48:55 PM

I also think that there is no better operating system than Linux, but for some reason many people are afraid to switch to it. although I dont see any advantage in favor of windows. Well, except that updating the firmware on a video card is a little more convenient in Windows

The learning curve for linux is extremely steep, and many of the posters on here do not have deep technical knowledge to begin with. I am a sys admin and before mining I had barely dabbled in linux just because it was so time consuming to learn. There is a wealth of information out there, but even something simple as setting a static ip can take over 30 minutes of searching and reading if you have never done it before. The world of mining has brought me from a novice linux user to an intermediate one haha. Windows definitely has to be more convenient when it comes to overlocking and stuff like that.

Amen. I run a few mining rigs and Windows is a 'Love/Hate' thing. But it's the environment I work, live and mine in. So we it comes time to spending the extra hour or two to learn something, I find doing it in Windows has extra benefits for me. Now, I totally get WHY Linux users love Linux, but it's a lot like religion - I got mine and you got yours.

Now, should we argue between Apple and Samsung Wink

(Edit: BTW - I'm using the "Guest" fix along with O&O Shut Up 10. Great little fix!)

nsummy

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Quote from: GhostWithin on April 23, 2019, 02:48:55 PM

Quote from: fanatic26_ on October 25, 2018, 05:29:46 PM

Quote from: sxemini on October 25, 2018, 04:26:36 AM

You manage 1500 GPU Rigs and you must weekly reboot windows? you are a really bad miner. My windows10 runs faster then linux (ethos), more stable than linux, i need no reboot for over 2 month (no miner restarts or what ever).

Do the right job, then windows works fantastic. i work with windows 1703, 1803, 1809 and alle works perfect. my windows make no updates, you must find the right solution Wink

Windows Hashrate 185mh with 6x RX 570, no hardware errors
Ethos Hashrate 178mh with 6x RX 570, i must clock down the cards. with the same speed as in windows, the miner stops working after several hours.

This is my opinion and my experience, i am not a linux hater, but i can´t read this shit about windows, from people who do not work properly with windows.

I love all you keyboard warriors that talk shit with no practical experience. Im so bad I run one of the largest crypto fams in North America! Good job with your couple rigs running Windows. Im sorry you dont know enough about linux to tweak and configure it for performance, but you really shouldnt claim something is better just because you dont understand how to use the other product.

Show me your Windows miners that can do this:

Last login: Fri Oct 19 12:16:56 2018 from 10.30.0.20
[Agent: GMiner11154 (Running) Total HR: [176.10Mh/s] Miners running [1] GPUs [AAAAAA]]
[06:26 PM][Uptime: 245d 17:22][root@GMiner11245(10.10.111.54)]

I also think that there is no better operating system than Linux, but for some reason many people are afraid to switch to it. although I dont see any advantage in favor of windows. Well, except that updating the firmware on a video card is a little more convenient in Windows

The learning curve for linux is extremely steep, and many of the posters on here do not have deep technical knowledge to begin with. I am a sys admin and before mining I had barely dabbled in linux just because it was so time consuming to learn. There is a wealth of information out there, but even something simple as setting a static ip can take over 30 minutes of searching and reading if you have never done it before. The world of mining has brought me from a novice linux user to an intermediate one haha. Windows definitely has to be more convenient when it comes to overlocking and stuff like that.

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Quote from: Anonylz on April 23, 2019, 03:05:37 PM

Quote from: uhro on May 15, 2018, 09:13:46 AM

This works for me...
Windows 10 in various scenarios will turn windows update back if all you do is disable the service.
To disable updates in Windows 10 is go to the Windows update Service property window, disable it, then go to the Log On tab at the top and click This account: and type ".\Guest"(no quotes), clear the password fields and click apply.
You will get a message saying Guest has been enabled to do this, but the hitch is that "Guest" doesn't have permission to do it so Windows update is basically disabled no matter what unless you switch it back which is just as easy.

Really thanks for this very easy and clear instruction to disable windows 10, this has been a bit annoying to me to be honest, i think Microsoft should give users the ability to chose whether they want to update windows or not, not forcing it on users whether it is convenient for them to do so or not, i will be using this guide to disable windows 10 until when am ready to update.

Don't get me wrong, updates on Windows 10 are an absolute disaster and its indefensible that the OS STILL will reboot on its own without a bunch of extreme hacks that may or may not work. That said, the arguments on here between windows and linux are comparing apples and oranges. The problem is that miners are using a consumer OS as a server. If you require maximum uptime then you really need to be using Windows Server. Its much more manageable and is actually designed to run for long periods without reboots.

nsummy

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Hahah I love this forum. Some bot shows up and bumps a thread from a year ago, another bot responds, then someone comes in and continues a 6 month old argument Grin

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Quote from: Anonylz on April 23, 2019, 03:05:37 PM

Quote from: uhro on May 15, 2018, 09:13:46 AM

This works for me...
Windows 10 in various scenarios will turn windows update back if all you do is disable the service.
To disable updates in Windows 10 is go to the Windows update Service property window, disable it, then go to the Log On tab at the top and click This account: and type ".\Guest"(no quotes), clear the password fields and click apply.
You will get a message saying Guest has been enabled to do this, but the hitch is that "Guest" doesn't have permission to do it so Windows update is basically disabled no matter what unless you switch it back which is just as easy.

Really thanks for this very easy and clear instruction to disable windows 10, this has been a bit annoying to me to be honest, i think Microsoft should give users the ability to chose whether they want to update windows or not, not forcing it on users whether it is convenient for them to do so or not, i will be using this guide to disable windows 10 until when am ready to update.

This is the problem with windows 10 which you cant really completely disable auto updates which it would automatically launch without your notice even if you have tried all
the said tutorials of disabling on the entire internet. Services.msc etc. etc. but it would still trigger out soon,maybe this is part of the OS which it cant really be disable completely.
I tried it all but still i end up on updating thats why windows 10 suck.I go back to windows7.

Anonylz

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Quote from: uhro on May 15, 2018, 09:13:46 AM

This works for me...
Windows 10 in various scenarios will turn windows update back if all you do is disable the service.
To disable updates in Windows 10 is go to the Windows update Service property window, disable it, then go to the Log On tab at the top and click This account: and type ".\Guest"(no quotes), clear the password fields and click apply.
You will get a message saying Guest has been enabled to do this, but the hitch is that "Guest" doesn't have permission to do it so Windows update is basically disabled no matter what unless you switch it back which is just as easy.

Really thanks for this very easy and clear instruction to disable windows 10, this has been a bit annoying to me to be honest, i think Microsoft should give users the ability to chose whether they want to update windows or not, not forcing it on users whether it is convenient for them to do so or not, i will be using this guide to disable windows 10 until when am ready to update.

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Quote from: fanatic26_ on October 25, 2018, 05:29:46 PM

Quote from: sxemini on October 25, 2018, 04:26:36 AM

You manage 1500 GPU Rigs and you must weekly reboot windows? you are a really bad miner. My windows10 runs faster then linux (ethos), more stable than linux, i need no reboot for over 2 month (no miner restarts or what ever).

Do the right job, then windows works fantastic. i work with windows 1703, 1803, 1809 and alle works perfect. my windows make no updates, you must find the right solution Wink

Windows Hashrate 185mh with 6x RX 570, no hardware errors
Ethos Hashrate 178mh with 6x RX 570, i must clock down the cards. with the same speed as in windows, the miner stops working after several hours.

This is my opinion and my experience, i am not a linux hater, but i can´t read this shit about windows, from people who do not work properly with windows.

I love all you keyboard warriors that talk shit with no practical experience. Im so bad I run one of the largest crypto fams in North America! Good job with your couple rigs running Windows. Im sorry you dont know enough about linux to tweak and configure it for performance, but you really shouldnt claim something is better just because you dont understand how to use the other product.

Show me your Windows miners that can do this:

Last login: Fri Oct 19 12:16:56 2018 from 10.30.0.20
[Agent: GMiner11154 (Running) Total HR: [176.10Mh/s] Miners running [1] GPUs [AAAAAA]]
[06:26 PM][Uptime: 245d 17:22][root@GMiner11245(10.10.111.54)]

I also think that there is no better operating system than Linux, but for some reason many people are afraid to switch to it. although I dont see any advantage in favor of windows. Well, except that updating the firmware on a video card is a little more convenient in Windows

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