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Topic: Storj: the new cloud Bitcoin storage technology (Read 2083 times)

legendary
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December 31, 2014, 04:10:29 PM
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I am not sure about the economical viability of this, or how it is going to bring value to its shareholders, but I am glad to see its progress.
If it works as advertised, I can see it complementing Bitshares well, and the possibilities are huge.
sr. member
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AltoCenter.com
wow, impressive. Many attempts before, but nothing came this far.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
et rich or die tryi
And now we wait for pedos to start using it to host Pizza and then the whole thing comes tumbling down.
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
I use tarsnap because

- open source
- accepts bitcoins
- Colin Percival of FreeBSD runs it
- other cryptographers recommend it as crypto engineering is solid

This project Storj you use 3rd party tools like pycrypto to encrypt your own files with AES128 in CTR mode, then they just store it in chunks decentralized. I backup TB servers so will be interesting to see how they handle gigantic backups and what that will cost.

I'd take a look at our whitepaper if you haven't already (storj.io/storj.pdf)

With Storj you'll be able to choose how you encrypt your files before uploading. Remember we're still a relatively young project in rapid development so lots of things will be changing. TarSnap is definitely awesome (compared to a lot of other solutions out there), but they've also been maturing since 2006 (8 years) and had a 2-year private beta.
sr. member
Activity: 249
Merit: 250
If this was decentralised it could be huge.
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
And..... I still do not get it.....

The user provide surplus storage and rent it into a cloud for other people to use?

What type of redundancy is built into this technology? I get the decentralization part, but still confused...

Correct, @Kprawn, Storj farmers will make available unused space on their hard drives to the network using the DriveShare app. They can offer this space for rent to other users who will pay the farmers for the space they want to occupy with the SJCX token.

The users of the network will be able to choose their preferred level of redundancy in the MetaDisk app, however, for simple data storage, a minimum 3x redundancy is recommended. As @brandoff already pointed out, you can find all the technical details in the Storj whitepaper recently published at http://storj.io/storj.pdf, and specifics about the subject of redundancy in chapter 4: "Proof-of-Redundancy"
Having to have your data stored multiple times (being redundant) means that the overall cost of storing via the service will be many times more expensive as advertised.

One issue of redundancy does not address is data integrity and possible data corruption. The integrity is somewhat addressed by the fact that you check the SHA hash of your files, however you will likely not determine if data is corrupted until you actually try to make a query from it

That part is handled by the heartbeat process (also described in whitepaper). Basically, if the file is corrupted it won't pass the heartbeat and the storage contract is broken.
hero member
Activity: 899
Merit: 1002
I use tarsnap because

- open source
- accepts bitcoins
- Colin Percival of FreeBSD runs it
- other cryptographers recommend it as crypto engineering is solid

This project Storj you use 3rd party tools like pycrypto to encrypt your own files with AES128 in CTR mode, then they just store it in chunks decentralized. I backup TB servers so will be interesting to see how they handle gigantic backups and what that will cost.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1014
Maidsafe seem to be ahead in the development stage.
How so?
Dont they both do the same thing??
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
And..... I still do not get it.....

The user provide surplus storage and rent it into a cloud for other people to use?

What type of redundancy is built into this technology? I get the decentralization part, but still confused...

Correct, @Kprawn, Storj farmers will make available unused space on their hard drives to the network using the DriveShare app. They can offer this space for rent to other users who will pay the farmers for the space they want to occupy with the SJCX token.

The users of the network will be able to choose their preferred level of redundancy in the MetaDisk app, however, for simple data storage, a minimum 3x redundancy is recommended. As @brandoff already pointed out, you can find all the technical details in the Storj whitepaper recently published at http://storj.io/storj.pdf, and specifics about the subject of redundancy in chapter 4: "Proof-of-Redundancy"
Having to have your data stored multiple times (being redundant) means that the overall cost of storing via the service will be many times more expensive as advertised.

One issue of redundancy does not address is data integrity and possible data corruption. The integrity is somewhat addressed by the fact that you check the SHA hash of your files, however you will likely not determine if data is corrupted until you actually try to make a query from it
sr. member
Activity: 373
Merit: 250
And..... I still do not get it.....

The user provide surplus storage and rent it into a cloud for other people to use?

What type of redundancy is built into this technology? I get the decentralization part, but still confused...

Correct, @Kprawn, Storj farmers will make available unused space on their hard drives to the network using the DriveShare app. They can offer this space for rent to other users who will pay the farmers for the space they want to occupy with the SJCX token.

The users of the network will be able to choose their preferred level of redundancy in the MetaDisk app, however, for simple data storage, a minimum 3x redundancy is recommended. As @brandoff already pointed out, you can find all the technical details in the Storj whitepaper recently published at http://storj.io/storj.pdf, and specifics about the subject of redundancy in chapter 4: "Proof-of-Redundancy"
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1074
And..... I still do not get it.....

The user provide surplus storage and rent it into a cloud for other people to use?

What type of redundancy is built into this technology? I get the decentralization part, but still confused...
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
I talked about Maidsafe & Storj a month or so ago here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9480153

Since then, our new whitepaper was posted (storj.io/storj.pdf) and our Test Group A started.

Hope this helps.
member
Activity: 78
Merit: 10
Maidsafe seem to be ahead in the development stage.
How so?

Check their progress and number of pull requests, the work done has been massive.
I still don't see a working beta or anything though. Storj recently launched its first beta, and you can see those distributed farmers here: https://live.driveshare.org/

Then again, it's all about cooperation. No need to back one or the other - Storj and MaidSafe plan on some amount of integration with one another.
hero member
Activity: 639
Merit: 500
Maidsafe seem to be ahead in the development stage.
How so?

Check their progress and number of pull requests, the work done has been massive.
legendary
Activity: 3430
Merit: 1142
Ιntergalactic Conciliator
Decentrilized when one person has the rule of the 91% of Storj coins? I dont think so.
Imo Storj is a p2p dropbox and nothing more. Is not even part of the digital coins revolution. Their coin is the same with everything else fiat money in this world.
member
Activity: 78
Merit: 10
Maidsafe seem to be ahead in the development stage.
How so?
full member
Activity: 215
Merit: 100
Any differences from DropBox?

Decentralised, so no one person (CEO of dropbox) can take your information.
hero member
Activity: 639
Merit: 500
Both the Storj and Maidsafe projects show promise, and its nice to see them using two different solutions. Willing to wait and watch to see which is the better one.

Maidsafe seem to be ahead in the development stage, Storj needs to hasten up unless it wants to concede the first mover advantage.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1012
FAIL because : Get paid for renting out your extra hard drive space



Decentralized storage will be free.



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