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blah  blah what a lengthy defensive statement to coinbiz, at the end of the day both of you are the same person. TROLL . coinbiz only pops out when the market is way down but if there is a breakthrough within the stratis and price skyrockets ($11) he / she is nowhere in this thread .

It specifically targets Bitcoin and exposes millions of Bitcoin users to Stratis by nesting them in the same wallet.

Well, things got pretty agitated this morning. I don't want to add fuel to the fire but I don't think Coinbiz is a Troll. Incendiary surely, but not a troll. His (or her) tactless manners are nothing new to this thread and, judging by his history, nothing new to this forum in general. He got very upset back in early june because he felt cheated by the community for ''encouraging'' him to invest in Stratis when the price was slipping from it's recent pump. While this and his general displays of immaturity erode his credibility, it doesn't disqualify him from bringing valid concerns to the table. And I believe that sometimes it is healthy to disrupt the circle jerk and question our own ideas.

On the question the team's integrity. I think focusing on the Microsoft buyout question is irrelevant. It seemed like a pretty innocuous question on the Slack to me with a straightforward answer from the CEO. The question spilled to this thread but didn't find it's way to the official twitter page as far as I know. This seems to me like innocent circle jerking by the community. I don't recall the Stratis PR being much concerned with the value of the token, nor being pretentious about their share of the market. I didn't see any significant sing of the Stratis team being untrustworthy so far.
Now I am not an expert on the legal aspect of the stock market, but it seems overkill to me to assume that announcing upcoming news is illegal. It is a universal practice in the tech industry. Almost half of the Video gaming news are about upcoming news. It is commonplace among phone makers, computer hardware companies, OS developpers, etc. These companies know that focusing attention on them is central to keeping their shareholders happy.
True, market manipulation through hyperbolic statements and excessive focus on market valuation are characteristic of the crypto world at the moment. But in my experience, the Stratis team is one of the few that manage keep a moderate approach with updates mostly related to their roadmap, development progress and  Q&A. The community is excessive for sure, but the team itself does not show signs of malicious activity. Just a few days ago TenX team kept hyping their listing on Bittrex. On the day it happened, they were constantly spamming their own Twitter feed with posts implying that the value of their token was skyrocketing when in fact it was dropping by the minute, that would be an example of a shady practice.

On the current state of the platform, while we can't see massive adoption of the platform so far, it is because there is nothing for the public to adopt yet. At the present time, the team is deploying their platform. They have tied a solid relation with Microsoft through Azure and they recently have been publicly recognized for it (whether or not you truly know people high up at MS is irrelevant as they operate dozens of major entities that deal in different sectors). Just a few months ago , Ethereum was being criticized for having no applications, and look at the number of ICOs that use it as a platform today. For now, users are eagerly awaiting the Breeze Wallet and Tumblebit, they are advancing at a steady pace with regular updates on their progress. They are also expanding their team with widely recognized and talented new members who will soon move on to work on the Baas platform.

I personally have nothing to loose with Stratis. Even at the current price I am still in the profit. I am well aware that this soon could change and that Stratis could (and I genuinely believe it probably will) fall back below 1$. But as noted, it is not a Stratis drop down, it is a general market bleed out. With general panic and uncertainty exacerbating the erratic nature of the still young crypto ecosystem with tokens both new and fresh out of their ICO regularly dropping in and out of the top 10. Now is not a good time to be making speculations based on market behavior. I never invested more than I could afford to loose so I have nothing to be worried about. But in the long run, I feel pretty comfortable putting my trust in Stratis.

The thing about stratis is that people want to work with it. end of chat.

Corporate blockchains are centralized.

What makes you different from the 20+ other stupid trolls?

So the difference between the stratis baas and the IBM baas is that stratis is anonymous and IBM/Microsoft are not?

Making Bitcoin and Stratis truly anonymous!

While the market is bearish Stratis team keeps delivering. Tumblebit with Breeze wallet through Tor is working, this technology is making bitcoin truly anonymous!



The address that is tumbling:
https://www.blocktrail.com/tBTC/address/msM6Qhs52q9eFUS1LkVXaGg3XcrMxAAoQe/transactions

Why would Microsoft buy stratis when they already offer their own Blockchain as a service?

And what is the benefit for companies to choose stratis over big recognised brands offering BAAS?

https://letstalkpayments.com/3-companies-leading-the-blockchain-as-a-service-baas-revolution/

Surely one would go with MS or IBM if they want BAAS or does stratis offer anything different?

coinbiz is just a stratis troll . just ignore whatever statement he/she makes on this thread . Whenever stratis goes down in a big way , he/she tend to spread rants about stratis negatively so I guess ignore all along . Does not really making sense.

Coinbiz is just a repetetive boring troll looking for cheaper coins, for sure he is a STRAT bagholder. Ask yourself, why would he waste his time on this? What does he gain?

Shit is getting old, FUD is good because it will cause more dilligence.

Coinbiz,

- Most Cryptos have dropped huge percenteges in the last month, for example: Bitcoin, Ethereum, Ethereum Classic, Dash, Litecoin, Monero, Zcash, Antshares, Steem, Siacoin, Golem, Lisk, DigixDao, Factom, PIVX, Waves, Ripple, NEM (that's just to name a few, I hope you're getting the point though). Just to give you a tip, the Crypto Marketcap has gone from $114,500,000,000 to now $66,302,600,000 in a matter of weeks. It has dropped almost 50% (that's insider knowledge, don't tell too many people).

- As you can see, your argument that Stratis has lost 70% of it's value is a bit ridiculous considering that basically everything is experiencing huge percentage losses.

- Chris is active on Slack and he addresses plenty of questions from the Stratis community on a regular basis. I think you're using this particular question from the screenshot, and you're making it much bigger than what it is, in order to support your very biased and unreasonable opinion on Chris & the Stratis Platform.

- You can say what you want about the stock market, but Chris had a good answer to the question - He clearly states that he'd always put Stratis holders first no matter what's offered otherwise he wouldn't consider the offer at all, and myself as well as many others appreciated that answer.

- A screenshot with #microsoft isn't anything to whinge about.

- Pump & Dumps are a regular thing in the entire crypto space, why don't you wave your fist at actual P&D groups & manipulative whales, rather than accusing individuals in a solid community for alleged hype. It's clear that you're over-exaggerating and warping what was actually said in that screenshot.
  
- "Just wait for regulation"? So you're pro-regulation. I'm curious about what else you're pro for. Government intervention? Taxes? No privacy? Centralisation? Come on now...

- Letting people know about upcoming blog posts, news, updates isn't a problem dude. You need to relax. If Apple lets the media know that they're going to be making an announcement next month about their new developments and tech progress are you going to complain that they're creating hype with that too? Will you be angry? I bet 99% of people (including regulators) won't care, and investors will be happy.

- "Where's the adoption? Where's the businesses?" That's like saying " EOS, Ardor, Waves, Antshares, Lisk, Ethereum Classic, Siacoin, Storj, Komodo - Where's the adoption? Where's the businesses?"
What's that saying? Rome wasn't built in a day, that's it. So maybe you should check back to see where we are in a years time

Before I go, here are some parting words


Stratis:
1. Has a professional team and a very experienced group of developers
2. Has unique and innovative technology in development, check their github
3. Will introduce blockchain to millions of developers through their platform
4. Will be releasing the Breeze wallet soon, which will handle millions of bitcoin transactions in complete privacy thanks to Tumblebit tech, it'll expose Stratis to a wider audience (possibly increasing the value of STRAT)
5. Masternodes will improve price stability and be rewarded.
6. Once smart contracts are released, Stratis will be a major competitor to Ethereum and other alt coins.
7. Scaling won't be an issue on the platform.
8. Has/is preventing many issues that bitcoin and Ethereum are currently facing - i.e scaling, privacy, mainnet bloating, developers wanting to develop on blockchain in a familiar coding language, businesses looking to transition to blockchain with support and ease.
9. Will be a leading BaaS Crypto available for a wide range of industries
10. Consultancy will help businesses every step of the way.
11. Has a solid community.
12. Has STRAT wealth distributed quite well across the community
13. Is well into their roadmap and the community is very pleased with how well the devs are doing
14. Development team is continually expanding, getting some very skilled devs joining the team
15. Has a very bright future the way things are going
16. Compliments Bitcoin and Bitcoin compliments Stratis
17. Has a clean and easy-to-navigate website
18. Has created many wealthy investors
19. Is definitely here to stay



Coinbiz, I just recommend for you to keep your opinion to yourself if you have nothing good to say in this thread from now on. I'm extremely confident that your time can be spent better elsewhere. I hope you do everyone, including yourself, a favour by stopping the FUD or at least taking it elsewhere (perhaps you can write in your diary). Also, a heads up, I don't plan on replying to anything else you write. However keep in mind, I did try to understand your point of view, but it's very evident to me that you're out to make things seem worse than what they actually are, for your own agenda, not to support the community.

I dont think market will recover soon but thats just my opinion. Waiting for BTC@ 1200-1500 AND some positive news for august 1 and thats where I expect market to recover and start moving up again. Until then BTC will move down and like a giant squid will take every living thing underwater. And Ethereum is in total fear mode now, double digits decline. Its like a train moving at high speed that runs over everything and takes time to stop. Market was way over inflated and overhyped, it needs tome to breathe and think a little bit where it is at now. And it has happened before, look and BTC history chart. I actually moved ETH to BTC some time ago and a few days ago moved BTC to fiat. I can already buy back BTC at a lower price then I sold. Still keeping Stratis though. And no Im not hyping it, I just have comparatively small position on it

Take me down (so I can rise back up again) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQpZv2r8fb4 haha

There is a lot of trolls in the alt coin section,i think other competitors are paying them off to troll their opponents so that they will feed off the negativity ,i am waiting for the market to recover.

Let us focus on Stratis and ignore the trolls, don't feed the trolls.

Thanks for the reply. I will do that. It's not my area of expertise so forgive me for my ignorance in that area (for now).

Chris never even mentioned anything about hoping or expected to be bought out by microsoft. I don't know where that bullshit came from.
Did the team ask this coin to fly to 10 dollars? I surely haven't seen it. Maybe the slack community group wanted it but the team was neutral as hell in that discussion. So it must be the same group of whales that pumped all other coins and meaningless ICO's in the top 100 since last april.
The altcoin  market is so easily manipulated nowadays I wonder if it's not just a small group of megawhales.

Yes last friday between 8:30pm and 12:00+ we had a massive amount of spam on slack so what you're stating here is pure bullshit. I was there myself. Go look in the slack logs if the mods haven't already been so kind enough to prune that spam from it.
People getting kicked out of slack? Can you give me some names for example so I can verify what the hell has happened to them?

Giving a heads up about a blog post? Are you really going to make a point of that? It's called transparency in my book. You can see for yourself that the news they've given a heads up in the past few weeks did not influence the market one bit so this 'hype' you're talking about is clearly an overstatement.

'Where is the adoption?  Where are the businesses?' Are you even up to date on the current status of the project and it's development? You're clearly not. Some key features that would make it interesting for businesses to jump on the platform are still being developed and are on the roadmap to complete this year. It looks like everybody in this crypto space expects every project to go from zero to completion within it's first year/months of development. Come on is any team/business realistically going to be able to pull that off? I don't think so. So why is this team slightly behind on it's roadmap? Well the simple answer here is that tech has to be carefully developed and there can always be expectations that are skewed from what a developer would expect. I think the team also expected to have more developers join the team earlier but I think they started that recruiting a little too late. Plus existing developers have contracts of their own where they have a legal obligation to keep working for x weeks since they terminated their contact so that is also causing delays.

'I'm shocked that Chris of all people would make claims that Stratis will have a market cap of X amount, or that it should be whatever number spot in the top coin market lists.' First of all, All that chris has done is to set an ambitious goal for his project to be a top 3 player. What any single other person thinks about the position of stratis in the market is an oppinion of their own. Whether this project will get there at all will remain to be seen. It's a goal to aim for not a goal that can be met with 100% certainty. If you want to know my opinion of it; I think they have a great opportunity to make a difference with their current business plans. If that's going to be a top 3 coin I'm not sure that all depends on the business adoption and the further plans they have when they have a product to move.

Before you're going to bitch about my post count on this forum I'm a lurker I don't care to join the discussion that much because I prefer other channels for that.

Ignored.

We are dealing here with a bit more sophisticated troll than usual garden variety of them. This guy makes false conclusions and tell straight out lies - and then tries to justify his point by attacking those conclusions and lies. It's a logical fallacy called a 'straw man'

As defined by wikipedia:

A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent.One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Just ignore such trolls.