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Quote from: dogie on May 21, 2013, 12:17:08 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaZPnHCHnNQ

Found this on youtube if you want to listen to what Yifu said .. unfortunately.. only part 1 of 3 was posted.

Thanks for the link

There are some much better quality vids here ... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBxY0rl6-vpVNaZLvRDAx2A
including Yifu's entire talk ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY1xgGiejIc

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That wouldn't be too hard in the US. Just say something like "Bitcoins blah blah links with terrorism blah blah DEY TRYIN TO TAKE OUR GUNS" blah blah

True it could be banned under some existing law. Guess thats why bitcoin foundation wants to send lobbyists to Washington huh?

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on May 21, 2013, 08:57:49 AM

BFL only had a booth with Bitpay. They weren't even listed in the Booth list, only Bitpay was..

BFL Inc cannot afford to attend to the conference. Check.

Inaba is using his personal account to bet for advertising on this site for BFL Inc. Check.

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on May 21, 2013, 08:57:49 AM

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on May 21, 2013, 08:50:08 AM

So, did anyone video Josh's talk? Surely someone would have.

He didn't have an organized speech as far as I'm aware, BFL only had a booth with Bitpay. They weren't even listed in the Booth list, only Bitpay was.. I guess Bitpay payed the bill.

He looked stressed, understandably, but it was a golden opportunity to have him in person explain what's currently happening. I'm actually surprised he took the time out to attend.

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Quote from: Bitcoinorama on May 21, 2013, 08:50:08 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaZPnHCHnNQ

Found this on youtube if you want to listen to what Yifu said .. unfortunately.. only part 1 of 3 was posted.

Thanks for the link

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So, did anyone video Josh's talk? Surely someone would have.

He didn't have an organized speech as far as I'm aware, BFL only had a booth with Bitpay. They weren't even listed in the Booth list, only Bitpay was.. I guess Bitpay payed the bill.

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So, did anyone video Josh's talk? Surely someone would have.

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Quote from: HTML5 Gordon on May 19, 2013, 03:46:37 PM

Agreed. Seems crazy to put a "new" product up for pre-order at this point.

If you can get people to pay millions to wait for over a year for a product that doesn't exist and may never come I'd think it would be crazy NOT to start the cycle all over again.

"Hey I might be able to buy a money printing machine and get rich quick?"

https://i.imgur.com/l2Qs0to.gif

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Quote from: dogie on May 21, 2013, 12:17:08 AM

Quote from: minternj on May 20, 2013, 02:11:06 PM

Quote from: axus on May 20, 2013, 01:36:33 PM

China doesn't really have "Rule of Law". Government can crack down when it wants to crack down, or change it's mind and push a positive Bitcoin story on it's evening news.

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Quote from: minternj on May 20, 2013, 02:11:06 PM

Being that using bitcoins is actually illegal in china, its a valid concern.

Proof?

it's been discussed on other parts of the forum. Also easily searchable on the internet.

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2009/06/29/china-cracks-down-on-virtual-currency-for-real/

I don't think its enforced much. But hey its china who knows what they can do overnight. People forget its not a democracy.

Totally agree , just pointing out they need to be more careful there since there is a precedent for virtual curerenc rules. I can see them banning it overnight, and unlike here in theUS they wont need to run it through congress and whatnot

Yifu talks about this briefly in video 2 around the 8 min mark.

That wouldn't be too hard in the US. Just say something like "Bitcoins blah blah links with terrorism blah blah DEY TRYIN TO TAKE OUR GUNS" blah blah

Doubt they could get away with that, the US Dollar has greater links with terrorism than any other currency. I'm not taking a swipe. That's genuinely an undeniable provable fact.

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Quote from: axus on May 20, 2013, 01:36:33 PM

China doesn't really have "Rule of Law". Government can crack down when it wants to crack down, or change it's mind and push a positive Bitcoin story on it's evening news.

Quote from: CoinHoarder on May 19, 2013, 09:00:39 PM

Quote from: axus on May 20, 2013, 01:36:33 PM

Being that using bitcoins is actually illegal in china, its a valid concern.

Proof?

it's been discussed on other parts of the forum. Also easily searchable on the internet.

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2009/06/29/china-cracks-down-on-virtual-currency-for-real/

I don't think its enforced much. But hey its china who knows what they can do overnight. People forget its not a democracy.

Totally agree , just pointing out they need to be more careful there since there is a precedent for virtual curerenc rules. I can see them banning it overnight, and unlike here in theUS they wont need to run it through congress and whatnot

Yifu talks about this briefly in video 2 around the 8 min mark.

That wouldn't be too hard in the US. Just say something like "Bitcoins blah blah links with terrorism blah blah DEY TRYIN TO TAKE OUR GUNS" blah blah

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China doesn't really have "Rule of Law". Government can crack down when it wants to crack down, or change it's mind and push a positive Bitcoin story on it's evening news.

Quote from: CoinHoarder on May 19, 2013, 09:00:39 PM

Quote from: SolarSilver on May 20, 2013, 01:08:17 PM

Being that using bitcoins is actually illegal in china, its a valid concern.

Proof?

it's been discussed on other parts of the forum. Also easily searchable on the internet.

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2009/06/29/china-cracks-down-on-virtual-currency-for-real/

I don't think its enforced much. But hey its china who knows what they can do overnight. People forget its not a democracy.

Totally agree , just pointing out they need to be more careful there since there is a precedent for virtual curerenc rules. I can see them banning it overnight, and unlike here in theUS they wont need to run it through congress and whatnot

Yifu talks about this briefly in video 2 around the 8 min mark.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaZPnHCHnNQ

Found this on youtube if you want to listen to what Yifu said .. unfortunately.. only part 1 of 3 was posted.

Acutally part 2/3 and 3/3 are posted too now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyTN1rDizCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPVttJZfKWk

thanks.

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Did anyone at the conference say "Buttcoins"?

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China doesn't really have "Rule of Law". Government can crack down when it wants to crack down, or change it's mind and push a positive Bitcoin story on it's evening news.

Quote from: CoinHoarder on May 19, 2013, 09:00:39 PM

Being that using bitcoins is actually illegal in china, its a valid concern.

Proof?

it's been discussed on other parts of the forum. Also easily searchable on the internet.

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2009/06/29/china-cracks-down-on-virtual-currency-for-real/

I don't think its enforced much. But hey its china who knows what they can do overnight. People forget its not a democracy.

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Being that using bitcoins is actually illegal in china, its a valid concern.

Who says that? the regulation ONLY refers to centralized game currencys issued by game companies. Not a single mention of Bitcoin or any other decentralized digital commodity...

"The rules also provide, for the first time, a definition of virtual currency in China (in Chinese here): It includes prepaid game cards, game currencies and game points, while tools and weapons used to play games online are not included."

"Virtual currency is to be used only to purchase other goods or services from the company that issued the virtual money[...]"

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Quote from: coretechs on May 20, 2013, 11:23:07 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaZPnHCHnNQ

Found this on youtube if you want to listen to what Yifu said .. unfortunately.. only part 1 of 3 was posted.

Acutally part 2/3 and 3/3 are posted too now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyTN1rDizCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPVttJZfKWk

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Look they exist, and Ive soon so many avalons this month Im kinda bored.

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Quote from: koob on May 20, 2013, 11:30:17 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaZPnHCHnNQ

Found this on youtube if you want to listen to what Yifu said .. unfortunately.. only part 1 of 3 was posted.

Part 2/3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyTN1rDizCE

Part 3/3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPVttJZfKWk

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Quote from: koob on May 20, 2013, 11:30:17 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaZPnHCHnNQ

Found this on youtube if you want to listen to what Yifu said .. unfortunately.. only part 1 of 3 was posted.

Part 2/3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyTN1rDizCE

Thank-you!

Anyone get Josh's talk?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaZPnHCHnNQ

Found this on youtube if you want to listen to what Yifu said .. unfortunately.. only part 1 of 3 was posted.

Part 2/3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyTN1rDizCE

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Great vid of yifu. Wish there was the rest, sounds like chip only from now on. Maybe some machines for next gen chip as proof of concept.

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Quote from: greaterninja on May 20, 2013, 07:08:42 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaZPnHCHnNQ

Found this on youtube if you want to listen to what Yifu said .. unfortunately.. only part 1 of 3 was posted.

Cool.
Thanks

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaZPnHCHnNQ

Found this on youtube if you want to listen to what Yifu said .. unfortunately.. only part 1 of 3 was posted.

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Quote from: dogie on May 20, 2013, 06:00:15 AM

Quote from: greaterninja on May 19, 2013, 10:11:16 PM

I guarantee batch #4 for Avalon is coming guys. If Yifu wants better ASICs, he should msg me....I can get them on 22nm packaging. All i ask in return is a few Avalon's or a share of the pie

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I also have a question of my own. What is happening to our Icarus Trade-Ins? I sent one and have not heard anything. Did Mr. Yifu say anything about the status of Icarus / Lancelot batch #2 trade-ins?

The guy who doesn't understand how chip power consumption works has contacts in the semiconductor industry?

Wait wait wait, the guy with a "masters in engineering" who got his ass handed to him is trying to troll again? I've already proven your ridiculous assumptions about the 7990 Malta to be false. I suggest you graduate school and get a real job in IT or engineering before you make more utterly stupid statements that prove to be false.

Your schooling != Real world experience. Your attempts to troll implies you need to work on your social skills to hold/get a decent job.
Have a good day dogie.

PSA: He's just mad because he lost a $5500 bet and is paying for it. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sapphire-7990-malta-results-1320mhs-stock-cooling-only-206738

Yes, and what's your technical background? Ah yes, fuck all. Get a real job? You mean to say open offers at Google and top global management consultancies on a $200k aren't real? Shit man, you've opened my eyes.

Have fun fixing people's laptops for $50k a year old man. G to the fucking G.

Pssst you two... were you talking at Bitcoin2013? No... take your pissing contest to PM or another thread... I want gossip not your crap.

If you look at my previous posts in this thread I was talking about batch #2, batch #2 trade-in, batch #3, batch #4 and asic chip packaing services I could offer.

On the other-hand, dogie is here to troll and act like an ass while simultaneously never contributing anything useful to the community. Get your facts straight before you start pointing fingers.

Back to it-- Batch #4 Avalon: Yes, Smaller ASIC chips: Yes, Even smaller ASIC chips?: Yes. Delivery: started last week, Batch #2 Trade-in news?: none.

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Nice to see they have ideas for the future to grow and push things forward. Glad they aren't completely grabbing the cash and running.

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Quote from: dogie on May 20, 2013, 06:00:15 AM

Quote from: greaterninja on May 19, 2013, 10:11:16 PM

I guarantee batch #4 for Avalon is coming guys. If Yifu wants better ASICs, he should msg me....I can get them on 22nm packaging. All i ask in return is a few Avalon's or a share of the pie

.

I also have a question of my own. What is happening to our Icarus Trade-Ins? I sent one and have not heard anything. Did Mr. Yifu say anything about the status of Icarus / Lancelot batch #2 trade-ins?

The guy who doesn't understand how chip power consumption works has contacts in the semiconductor industry?

Wait wait wait, the guy with a "masters in engineering" who got his ass handed to him is trying to troll again? I've already proven your ridiculous assumptions about the 7990 Malta to be false. I suggest you graduate school and get a real job in IT or engineering before you make more utterly stupid statements that prove to be false.

Your schooling != Real world experience. Your attempts to troll implies you need to work on your social skills to hold/get a decent job.
Have a good day dogie.

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Quote from: greaterninja on May 19, 2013, 10:11:16 PM

I guarantee batch #4 for Avalon is coming guys. If Yifu wants better ASICs, he should msg me....I can get them on 22nm packaging. All i ask in return is a few Avalon's or a share of the pie

.

I also have a question of my own. What is happening to our Icarus Trade-Ins? I sent one and have not heard anything. Did Mr. Yifu say anything about the status of Icarus / Lancelot batch #2 trade-ins?

The guy who doesn't understand how chip power consumption works has contacts in the semiconductor industry?

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the news in CCTV is not promote, just two short reports.
the CCTV guy want to show they are fashion ...

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Quote from: Enigma81 on May 20, 2013, 12:30:09 AM

Being that using bitcoins is actually illegal in china, its a valid concern.

If Bitcoin is illegal why does CCTV promote it in a big way? Their recent TV coverage was rather positive. Nothing is aired on Chinese TV without the State's approval.

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Quote from: GenTarkin on May 20, 2013, 12:12:06 AM

Quote from: smoothie on May 19, 2013, 11:51:12 PM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on May 19, 2013, 09:04:04 PM

I was also there at the conference.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Yifu stated they can produce about 50 Avalons a day once their new line is running and calibrated.

Yes he did. Should be interesting when they get to that point.

the question is how long will it take to get through the "up and running & calibrated" =/

For a full SMT line (Paster, Paste Inspection*, Pick/Place or two, Reflow Oven and AOI*), This can be done in less than a week if they're serious about it.

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Quote from: smoothie on May 19, 2013, 11:51:12 PM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on May 19, 2013, 09:04:04 PM

I was also there at the conference.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Yifu stated they can produce about 50 Avalons a day once their new line is running and calibrated.

Yes he did. Should be interesting when they get to that point.

the question is how long will it take to get through the "up and running & calibrated" =/

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on May 19, 2013, 09:04:04 PM

I was also there at the conference.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Yifu stated they can produce about 50 Avalons a day once their new line is running and calibrated.

Yes he did. Should be interesting when they get to that point.

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Quote from: monkee on May 19, 2013, 10:27:25 PM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on May 19, 2013, 09:00:39 PM

Quote from: iikun on May 19, 2013, 09:20:46 PM

Being that using bitcoins is actually illegal in china, its a valid concern.

Proof?

But hey its china who knows what they can do overnight. People forget its not a democracy.

yeah, because nothing like that would ever happen in a democracy

True , i get your gist but we don't have the media and internet completely censored(Yet, lol).

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on May 19, 2013, 09:04:04 PM

Update:

It does sound like batches 2+3 will be coming shortly. Their SMT machine was held in customs between japan and china, so that explains why they were delayed there.

I was also there at the conference.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Yifu stated they can produce about 50 Avalons a day once their new line is running and calibrated.

Seems strange that they imported their own SMT machine especially & then announce there will be no batch 4. Or maybe they already have the SMT lined up for sale after batch 3 is finished.

I thought that too. However, they need the machine to make batch 2 and 3. The reason they are buying their own equipment is to cut out the middle man. The only way that they were able to (sort of) meet their batch #1 timelines was to circumvent the traditional manufacturing process. They bought their own CNC machine because it would have taken two weeks to go the traditional route of putting their order in a queue. Having their own SMT machine should allow them to cut a bunch of time out of the manufacturing process.

Also, even if they are not making batch #4 gen 1 machines doesn't mean they will not make gen 2 machines...yifu did not commit to making gen 2 machines.

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on May 19, 2013, 09:00:39 PM

Quote from: erk on May 19, 2013, 09:22:02 PM

Being that using bitcoins is actually illegal in china, its a valid concern.

Proof?

But hey its china who knows what they can do overnight. People forget its not a democracy.

yeah, because nothing like that would ever happen in a democracy

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I guarantee batch #4 for Avalon is coming guys. If Yifu wants better ASICs, he should msg me....I can get them on 22nm packaging. All i ask in return is a few Avalon's or a share of the pie

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I also have a question of my own. What is happening to our Icarus Trade-Ins? I sent one and have not heard anything. Did Mr. Yifu say anything about the status of Icarus / Lancelot batch #2 trade-ins?

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Quote from: iikun on May 19, 2013, 09:20:46 PM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on May 19, 2013, 09:04:04 PM

Update:

It does sound like batches 2+3 will be coming shortly. Their SMT machine was held in customs between japan and china, so that explains why they were delayed there.

I was also there at the conference.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Yifu stated they can produce about 50 Avalons a day once their new line is running and calibrated.

Seems strange that they imported their own SMT machine especially & then announce there will be no batch 4. Or maybe they already have the SMT lined up for sale after batch 3 is finished.

Do they make the boards for ASICMINER?

I'd thought they were independent of each other? but I really have no idea..

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Quote from: ElectricMucus on May 19, 2013, 07:18:37 PM

If gen2 avalon comes before BFL ships they're toast.

Well my best guess is that they will have the Next Gen announcement some time in late June.

Then we will see those chips in circulation one way or another by November.

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Quote from: Frizz23 on May 19, 2013, 03:55:02 PM

... maybe in the next 2 weeks ...

LOL! Josh should get this copyrighted. He uses it so often it's not funny any more.

"maybe in the next 2 weeks" synonymous for "I have no clue" (synonymous for "can I have a quarter please?")

It was good to hear from Yifu with my own ears. The guy is a good guy. Given he has been able to produce and ship a size able amount of ASICs in a much shorter time than any other vendor it is hard not to respect the man.

BFL otoh in my view just did more dog and pony showing at this conference. Their name was not even listed on the map of booths. BitPay's name was only listed down as the booth owner/operator.

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Quote from: reedlaw on May 19, 2013, 09:18:58 PM

They are dealing with potential security issues in china. e.g. ngzhang doesn't drive his own car anymore, doesn't use his old cellphone, doesn't live where he used to...

They have physically secured the transportation route between them and the shipper in hopes of preventing damaged avalons (said 6-7 Avalons had broken corners or damage).

I'm guessing he's thought of this before, and it seems unlikely I'll get a straight answer by asking him online.... but what's holding him back from moving?

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on May 19, 2013, 09:00:39 PM

Quote from: iikun on May 19, 2013, 09:20:46 PM

Being that using bitcoins is actually illegal in china, its a valid concern.

Proof?

it's been discussed on other parts of the forum. Also easily searchable on the internet.

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2009/06/29/china-cracks-down-on-virtual-currency-for-real/

I don't think its enforced much. But hey its china who knows what they can do overnight. People forget its not a democracy.

https://www.btcchina.com/ still seems to be in operation.

Yep, not really enforced. But hey if they wanted to make example out of someone.. i can see why they are trying to be secretive.

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on May 19, 2013, 09:04:04 PM

Update:

It does sound like batches 2+3 will be coming shortly. Their SMT machine was held in customs between japan and china, so that explains why they were delayed there.

I was also there at the conference.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Yifu stated they can produce about 50 Avalons a day once their new line is running and calibrated.

Seems strange that they imported their own SMT machine especially & then announce there will be no batch 4. Or maybe they already have the SMT lined up for sale after batch 3 is finished.

Do they make the boards for ASICMINER?

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on May 19, 2013, 09:04:04 PM

Update:

It does sound like batches 2+3 will be coming shortly. Their SMT machine was held in customs between japan and china, so that explains why they were delayed there.

I was also there at the conference.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Yifu stated they can produce about 50 Avalons a day once their new line is running and calibrated.

Seems strange that they imported their own SMT machine especially & then announce there will be no batch 4. Or maybe they already have the SMT lined up for sale after batch 3 is finished.

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on May 19, 2013, 09:00:39 PM

Quote from: HTML5 Gordon on May 19, 2013, 03:22:16 PM

Being that using bitcoins is actually illegal in china, its a valid concern.

Proof?

it's been discussed on other parts of the forum. Also easily searchable on the internet.

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2009/06/29/china-cracks-down-on-virtual-currency-for-real/

I don't think its enforced much. But hey its china who knows what they can do overnight. People forget its not a democracy.

https://www.btcchina.com/ still seems to be in operation.

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on May 19, 2013, 09:00:39 PM

from josh: BFL mini rigs will probably be split into 3 units of 500GH/s. They will start sell 500GH/s units...maybe in the next 2 weeks. Power consumption of the 500GH/s units are currently ~3kW. Trying to get near 1.5kW.s

I'm guessing no indications on when they may have these 500GH/s ready for shipping? I know he said they would start to "sell" them in maybe 2 weeks, but I think everyone would like to know when they would actually be able to ship them.

Probably means they will start pre-orders on their web site. Don't hold your breath, they are going to have a lot of problems getting the power consumption down, they will have to underclock and use more chips etc. which means board redesigns and delays.

The best thing BFL can do to save face is just pump out what they can, like thousands of 5GH/s units and anything else they can build. Apologise to the other orders like mini rig, and get on with fixing it, even if it means getting new wafers designed at a smaller fab size.

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Being that using bitcoins is actually illegal in china, its a valid concern.

Proof?

it's been discussed on other parts of the forum. Also easily searchable on the internet.

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2009/06/29/china-cracks-down-on-virtual-currency-for-real/

I don't think its enforced much. But hey its china who knows what they can do overnight. People forget its not a democracy.

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I was also there at the conference.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Yifu stated they can produce about 50 Avalons a day once their new line is running and calibrated.

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Quote from: Benson Samuel on May 19, 2013, 01:42:43 PM

Being that using bitcoins is actually illegal in china, its a valid concern.

Proof?

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Any idea if Mark Karples was there?
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No Mark is not here. But I think Jed is.

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Being that using bitcoins is actually illegal in china, its a valid concern.

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I remember yinfu April 15 began to say SMT formed after two weeks
May 1 , said SMT already in place
Now that the SMT one week
I despair

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interesting updates

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Quote from: ElectricMucus on May 19, 2013, 07:18:37 PM

If gen2 avalon comes before BFL ships they're toast.

I wonder if they will make Gen2 modules for their Avalon chassis (as a references spec)... or they are just going to produce raw gen2 chips?

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Quote from: dogie on May 19, 2013, 07:15:37 PM

Quote from: Raize on May 19, 2013, 07:05:02 PM

Quote from: Raize on May 19, 2013, 07:05:02 PM

They are dealing with potential security issues in china. e.g. ngzhang doesn't drive his own car anymore, doesn't use his old cellphone, doesn't live where he used to...

That's a little... uh... disturbing...

Sometimes its hard for us to remember because of the results they get, but China still isn't a westernised country in regards to accountability. The State runs the show, don't like it? Have some prison LOLpwned.

I think the concern is with rabid ppl rather than the govt...but that's just my guess.

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Oh.. I thought the SMT line was online already. Basically, we'll get ours in June?

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If gen2 avalon comes before BFL ships they're toast.

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They are dealing with potential security issues in china. e.g. ngzhang doesn't drive his own car anymore, doesn't use his old cellphone, doesn't live where he used to...

That's a little... uh... disturbing...

Sometimes its hard for us to remember because of the results they get, but China still isn't a westernised country in regards to accountability. The State runs the show, don't like it? Have some prison LOLpwned.

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Quote from: fpgaminer on May 19, 2013, 05:47:24 PM

They are dealing with potential security issues in china. e.g. ngzhang doesn't drive his own car anymore, doesn't use his old cellphone, doesn't live where he used to...

That's a little... uh... disturbing...

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Update:

yifu kind of left the door open for batch #4 by saying..."if we ever do b4".

Gen2 will be 55nm.

It does sound like batches 2+3 will be coming shortly. Their SMT machine was held in customs between japan and china, so that explains why they were delayed there.

They are manually pulling orders from wallet bit (for those that were caught up in the web debacle).

They are dealing with potential security issues in china. e.g. ngzhang doesn't drive his own car anymore, doesn't use his old cellphone, doesn't live where he used to...

They have physically secured the transportation route between them and the shipper in hopes of preventing damaged avalons (said 6-7 Avalons had broken corners or damage).

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Does anyone have video of Yifu's talk?

+1 Or even a paraphrased transcript?

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Does anyone have video of Yifu's talk?

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from josh: BFL mini rigs will probably be split into 3 units of 500GH/s. They will start sell 500GH/s units...maybe in the next 2 weeks.

Notice how he just says they will be "selling" them. Not that they'll actually ship them in any reasonable amount of time.

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Quote from: tigerfree on May 19, 2013, 03:26:52 PM

... maybe in the next 2 weeks ...

LOL! Josh should get this copyrighted. He uses it so often it's not funny any more.

"maybe in the next 2 weeks" synonymous for "I have no clue" (synonymous for "can I have a quarter please?")

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Quote from: HTML5 Gordon on May 19, 2013, 03:22:16 PM

Quote from: HTML5 Gordon on May 19, 2013, 03:22:16 PM

from josh: BFL mini rigs will probably be split into 3 units of 500GH/s. They will start sell 500GH/s units...maybe in the next 2 weeks. Power consumption of the 500GH/s units are currently ~3kW. Trying to get near 1.5kW.s

I'm guessing no indications on when they may have these 500GH/s ready for shipping? I know he said they would start to "sell" them in maybe 2 weeks, but I think everyone would like to know when they would actually be able to ship them.

i don't know how he can say this !!! first he finish his order that hanging for 1 year almost .

Agreed. Seems crazy to put a "new" product up for pre-order at this point.

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from josh: BFL mini rigs will probably be split into 3 units of 500GH/s. They will start sell 500GH/s units...maybe in the next 2 weeks. Power consumption of the 500GH/s units are currently ~3kW. Trying to get near 1.5kW.s

I'm guessing no indications on when they may have these 500GH/s ready for shipping? I know he said they would start to "sell" them in maybe 2 weeks, but I think everyone would like to know when they would actually be able to ship them.

i don't know how he can say this !!! first he finish his order that hanging for 1 year almost .

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