Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income - page 29.

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Quote from: mak013 on August 03, 2023, 07:52:16 AM

It is a job. There is no any secret in it. You must make serious research of information about your teams, research about bookies, who add this match, the odds between bookies and don`t think about additional bets. So you must remove emotions.
One of these guys started in the sports bet group, later he understand how it works, got information and began to analyze himself.
Of course they win not all bets, but win rate is nice and the odds nice too. I tried it myself and got about $800 per month for several months but it was to difficult and less than i get in main job, so i stopped.

An interesting point of view, and I agree that it can be considered as a job, but there is one thing. I believe that work should not be so dangerous for the psyche and stability of thinking. I mean, in gambling, it's very easy to go beyond control and turn into a dependent. Agree, ari of all the similarities of trading and nambling, there is no such thing in trading. It is impossible to fall into a strong addiction from it. At least I think so. Yes, there are people with the strongest self-control, there are only a few for hundreds of them. And to consider gambling as a job with a stable income is clearly not for most people.

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It is a job. There is no any secret in it. You must make serious research of information about your teams, research about bookies, who add this match, the odds between bookies and don`t think about additional bets. So you must remove emotions.
One of these guys started in the sports bet group, later he understand how it works, got information and began to analyze himself.
Of course they win not all bets, but win rate is nice and the odds nice too. I tried it myself and got about $800 per month for several months but it was to difficult and less than i get in main job, so i stopped.

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Quote from: mak013 on August 02, 2023, 05:33:11 AM

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Quote from: bitzizzix on July 30, 2023, 11:20:43 AM

Gambling for fun or for the main income, still the house always wins, And gambling purely for fun they only play in their free time or when there is a sense of wanting to play, and with sufficient capital and play gambling with games that he thinks are fun, and also enjoy it while wishing luck.

and gambling as the main source of income in my opinion if it really exists and happens then there will be many people who do it without having to work to earn income for their daily needs. And even though those who are experts there is no guarantee that they will always win consistently.

People never understand how the casino system works so don't ever make casinos a source of income, what you are saying is true that if everyone could get consistent income, of course people would not work and would rather gamble, after all, that mindset usually only exist for beginners where they always believe that the casino can be a source of income for them.

I'm sure it takes time for people like that to convince themselves that casinos are not a source of income, at least seeing they really feel down and experience successive losses so they no longer think of casinos as a source of income, it's hard to convince beginners about that wrong mindset. , the only way to make them aware is the harsh reality that they will feel for themselves after playing gambling. gamble wisely and make gambling games just for fun, that's the most correct

It isn`t easy but it is possible. I know several men who get money only from the gambling for few years. And not $100-300 but several thousands every month. Of course, the main part of gamblers don`t even think about making the gambling major income, but it doesn`t mean, that it is impossible. But gambling becomes a job and you don`t get fun from it like before.

If a gambler can regularly earn several thousand dollars per month from gambling, then it can definitely be called as a income source of that particular gambler. But the number of such gamblers is very small. In this regard most of the gamblers have various earning source. They may be making a living with money from gambling but they also have no depression because they are sufficient. But if the average gambler wants to make a living by following them, they can be fall in risk to lose their money.

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Quote from: mak013 on August 02, 2023, 05:33:11 AM

It isn`t easy but it is possible. I know several men who get money only from the gambling for few years. And not $100-300 but several thousands every month. Of course, the main part of gamblers don`t even think about making the gambling major income, but it doesn`t mean, that it is impossible. But gambling becomes a job and you don`t get fun from it like before.

That is something that gamblers can rarely get their hands on because most of them will just lose and maybe they will lose a lot. And they wouldn't be able to make a huge income from gambling because it's so difficult. But people you know are really successful and maybe you can ask them what's the secret to making thousands of dollars monthly. I thought it would be worth a try but I guess it would also require other skills to be like them.

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Quote from: mak013 on August 02, 2023, 05:33:11 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on July 31, 2023, 02:10:07 AM

Quote from: bitzizzix on July 30, 2023, 11:20:43 AM

Gambling for fun or for the main income, still the house always wins, And gambling purely for fun they only play in their free time or when there is a sense of wanting to play, and with sufficient capital and play gambling with games that he thinks are fun, and also enjoy it while wishing luck.

and gambling as the main source of income in my opinion if it really exists and happens then there will be many people who do it without having to work to earn income for their daily needs. And even though those who are experts there is no guarantee that they will always win consistently.

People never understand how the casino system works so don't ever make casinos a source of income, what you are saying is true that if everyone could get consistent income, of course people would not work and would rather gamble, after all, that mindset usually only exist for beginners where they always believe that the casino can be a source of income for them.

I'm sure it takes time for people like that to convince themselves that casinos are not a source of income, at least seeing they really feel down and experience successive losses so they no longer think of casinos as a source of income, it's hard to convince beginners about that wrong mindset. , the only way to make them aware is the harsh reality that they will feel for themselves after playing gambling. gamble wisely and make gambling games just for fun, that's the most correct

It isn`t easy but it is possible. I know several men who get money only from the gambling for few years. And not $100-300 but several thousands every month. Of course, the main part of gamblers don`t even think about making the gambling major income, but it doesn`t mean, that it is impossible. But gambling becomes a job and you don`t get fun from it like before.

Possible yes indeed but only few can do it, and I like that part where fun might not be the same when you are seeking for money as you always taking risk and if you lose your emotions will push you to be more aggressive, I think it's more on how you really understand both risk and the potential. If you have the knowledge, maybe you can use it as a good edge but still not a guarantee as most of the time gambling is more on a luck base activity.

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Quote from: piebeyb on July 31, 2023, 02:10:07 AM

Quote from: bitzizzix on July 30, 2023, 11:20:43 AM

Gambling for fun or for the main income, still the house always wins, And gambling purely for fun they only play in their free time or when there is a sense of wanting to play, and with sufficient capital and play gambling with games that he thinks are fun, and also enjoy it while wishing luck.

and gambling as the main source of income in my opinion if it really exists and happens then there will be many people who do it without having to work to earn income for their daily needs. And even though those who are experts there is no guarantee that they will always win consistently.

People never understand how the casino system works so don't ever make casinos a source of income, what you are saying is true that if everyone could get consistent income, of course people would not work and would rather gamble, after all, that mindset usually only exist for beginners where they always believe that the casino can be a source of income for them.

I'm sure it takes time for people like that to convince themselves that casinos are not a source of income, at least seeing they really feel down and experience successive losses so they no longer think of casinos as a source of income, it's hard to convince beginners about that wrong mindset. , the only way to make them aware is the harsh reality that they will feel for themselves after playing gambling. gamble wisely and make gambling games just for fun, that's the most correct

It isn`t easy but it is possible. I know several men who get money only from the gambling for few years. And not $100-300 but several thousands every month. Of course, the main part of gamblers don`t even think about making the gambling major income, but it doesn`t mean, that it is impossible. But gambling becomes a job and you don`t get fun from it like before.

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Quote from: piebeyb on July 31, 2023, 02:10:07 AM

People never understand how the casino system works so don't ever make casinos a source of income, what you are saying is true that if everyone could get consistent income, of course people would not work and would rather gamble, after all, that mindset usually only exist for beginners where they always believe that the casino can be a source of income for them.

This is what I always say to all my friends who are still active as gamblers, I always tell them that there is not the slightest chance for them to be able to earn consistently in gambling and even as a source of income, obviously this is a very wrong assumption. Everyone knows that they will be able to get big wins there, but the question is, can you make those wins always come to you by relying only on luck? the answer is no. I will agree to say that gambling can be made as the main income if the person is the dealer.

Quote from: piebeyb on July 31, 2023, 02:10:07 AM

I'm sure it takes time for people like that to convince themselves that casinos are not a source of income, at least seeing they really feel down and experience successive losses so they no longer think of casinos as a source of income, it's hard to convince beginners about that wrong mindset. , the only way to make them aware is the harsh reality that they will feel for themselves after playing gambling. gamble wisely and make gambling games just for fun, that's the most correct

Greed and emotions have taken over them making it difficult for them to have the right mindset. Winning is a very fun thing, and most people are stuck there, their minds are always focused on a win without them realizing that they will succeed in getting a victory at the cost of several defeats, that's the same thing. To be honest, I always tell someone who has just won at gambling that it is just a lure so they do it over and over again with the hope of the same win, hoping that the win will come back. It's true as you say that someone must feel something significant there, like for example getting a big loss to make them feel very down.

Experts have made it clear that gambling shouldn't be considered as a major source of income and that people should always gamble with their spare money. But some people would still give deaf ears to their advise and still want to take chances with something that winning is not 100% guaranteed these set of people know the risk behind it but have made up their mind to either fail or succeed from it, the most annoying set of people are those that made huge money from it and try to double the money they just made and end up losing everything, I call them annoying because they got carried away by their winning and out of greed desired for more which made them lose totally.
No matter how skillful you're in gambling someone you require luck for you to win some particular games and if you're lucky to win, you should know when to pause or quit for the day either save or money or invest in another profitable business other than using it to gamble again because luck might not shine on you the second time, greed is one of the things that's made many gamblers unsuccessful, they might have been advised severally but some choose to learn the hard way.

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Quote from: piebeyb on July 31, 2023, 02:10:07 AM

People never understand how the casino system works so don't ever make casinos a source of income, what you are saying is true that if everyone could get consistent income, of course people would not work and would rather gamble, after all, that mindset usually only exist for beginners where they always believe that the casino can be a source of income for them.

This is what I always say to all my friends who are still active as gamblers, I always tell them that there is not the slightest chance for them to be able to earn consistently in gambling and even as a source of income, obviously this is a very wrong assumption. Everyone knows that they will be able to get big wins there, but the question is, can you make those wins always come to you by relying only on luck? the answer is no. I will agree to say that gambling can be made as the main income if the person is the dealer.

Quote from: piebeyb on July 31, 2023, 02:10:07 AM

I'm sure it takes time for people like that to convince themselves that casinos are not a source of income, at least seeing they really feel down and experience successive losses so they no longer think of casinos as a source of income, it's hard to convince beginners about that wrong mindset. , the only way to make them aware is the harsh reality that they will feel for themselves after playing gambling. gamble wisely and make gambling games just for fun, that's the most correct

Greed and emotions have taken over them making it difficult for them to have the right mindset. Winning is a very fun thing, and most people are stuck there, their minds are always focused on a win without them realizing that they will succeed in getting a victory at the cost of several defeats, that's the same thing. To be honest, I always tell someone who has just won at gambling that it is just a lure so they do it over and over again with the hope of the same win, hoping that the win will come back. It's true as you say that someone must feel something significant there, like for example getting a big loss to make them feel very down.

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never that I will be letting my life to be relying in gambling , yeah there might be someone that doing this but trust me , they are just a piece of a million loser.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on July 30, 2023, 11:20:43 AM

Gambling for fun or for the main income, still the house always wins, And gambling purely for fun they only play in their free time or when there is a sense of wanting to play, and with sufficient capital and play gambling with games that he thinks are fun, and also enjoy it while wishing luck.

and gambling as the main source of income in my opinion if it really exists and happens then there will be many people who do it without having to work to earn income for their daily needs. And even though those who are experts there is no guarantee that they will always win consistently.

People never understand how the casino system works so don't ever make casinos a source of income, what you are saying is true that if everyone could get consistent income, of course people would not work and would rather gamble, after all, that mindset usually only exist for beginners where they always believe that the casino can be a source of income for them.

I'm sure it takes time for people like that to convince themselves that casinos are not a source of income, at least seeing they really feel down and experience successive losses so they no longer think of casinos as a source of income, it's hard to convince beginners about that wrong mindset. , the only way to make them aware is the harsh reality that they will feel for themselves after playing gambling. gamble wisely and make gambling games just for fun, that's the most correct

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Quote from: internetional on July 27, 2023, 11:10:40 AM

Moreover, if I am a casino, this means that gambling is my main source of income.

If you are a casino, you are the Casino itself, which makes you gamble on your own. Being in a casino does not make you a gambler, but gamblers are the ones giving you money. Casiono is a business entity and not an individual; you, as the casino, make the rules, and they are designed to favor you and not the gamblers; they might be winning, but you, the casino, have the higher share of gain. And even if we are to look at it in the other way, viewing you as the casino owner, you are still entirely not an ordinary gambler, as what you are doing is managing your business, and there is nothing bad in putting all your hope on it and expecting all your source of income to come from it. In such a case, you are on the right track, as gamblers will definitely make your dreams come true.

I agree, running a casino doesn't qualify you as a gambler. Actually, the casino owners are the opposite of a gambler, because the casino takes all the opposite side of our bets. If there was no house edge and all the games would be fair then the casino would also be a gambler, but in the long run the casino is going to win over use. The term gambler includes uncertainty in itself, whereas the casino can rely on statistics of large numbers to make its profit as long as there are enough customers. Which is exactly the point why gambling can't be the main source of income, it's not reliable and we can't plan ahead to pay our bills in the future if the income is not steady. Avoiding losses is one thing in gambling and making constant returns is something completely different. Even with the best strategies in gambling there is no guarantee that we are going to make reliable profits in the future. That is why gambling is for me only a small challenge on the side, where I only use money that I can afford to lose and any profit I make is something special and I am happy and grateful about.

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It's is just so risky that the people you know is just mainly earning from doing gambling. As we all know it's not an assured income and the possible money we can get from a casino is uncertain. It's risky but I guess that the people you know is doing good because they have survive several months by just getting their money from a casino. It's hard to maintain it forever even how careful you are. Securing a job or a business is the idea path for majority of us.

The gambling is their major income at least for last 3 years. Yes, it is risky, but they get enough money from gambling for easy life. Of course i don`t know every month profit, but several times when we were talking about it they told that it was about 2-3k USDT. In my country medium salary is about $700-800. I think that they get enough money for life from gambling.
But it is really hard, it becomes a job. So if someone think that he can get easy money from gambling - he is mistaken.

To be honest, I never thought that any of them (gamblers) would be able to make gambling their main income, even to support their living expenses for a while. I hear you say someone who has consistent luck from gambling whereas no one has consistent results or earns continuous profits from gambling, I say this because it is based on facts and indeed I am also an active gambler. I say this for the principle of one's luck in gambling, meaning that one will not always be lucky in it except on certain occasions when one does get lucky. But if indeed they manage to get lucky at one time with a very large number, then it is very possible for them to use their winnings for living expenses for the next few days. I say only for people who have strict limits on it, because most of them, including me, will return the winnings to gamble again and in the end the money will be gone in a fairly short time.

It is not about luck. They analyze matches seriously, search high odds and bookies mistakes, and only after it make a bet. Few times i saw their bets with odd about 100, one time even saw how their bet won. The man i watched got about $2.500 from one bet. Of course it is very rare situation, but odd between 2 and 5 are usual situation.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on July 30, 2023, 11:20:43 AM

and gambling as the main source of income in my opinion if it really exists and happens then there will be many people who do it without having to work to earn income for their daily needs. And even though those who are experts there is no guarantee that they will always win consistently.

If it comes to gambling for money , or like gambling as a source of income ,There is no need mentioning or saying "if it really exists or happens" because in our society today, in the gambling community, majority of gamblers today are gambling for income, profit, and not just about having fun anymore.

If I should use myself as an example, I usually really gamble for fun, but I can not deny the fact that there are many times I go into gambling to try to make some income, this is not a bad thing even though gambling is generally considered as a form of entertainment, but the thing is to always be conscious and be very careful with decision making always when it patterns to gambling, and also only gambling with an amount of one one can comfortably lose, whether gambling for money or just to have fun.

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Quote from: slapper on July 30, 2023, 02:13:15 PM

Quote from: bitzizzix on July 30, 2023, 11:20:43 AM

Gambling for fun or for the main income, still the house always wins, And gambling purely for fun they only play in their free time or when there is a sense of wanting to play, and with sufficient capital and play gambling with games that he thinks are fun, and also enjoy it while wishing luck.

and gambling as the main source of income in my opinion if it really exists and happens then there will be many people who do it without having to work to earn income for their daily needs. And even though those who are experts there is no guarantee that they will always win consistently.

"House always wins" is a generalized perspective and doesn't consider the gambler's skill, experience, and discipline. Skill-based games like poker provide an avenue where the house edge can be mitigated, and potentially beaten, by savvy, disciplined players

Making a living from gambling might seem inconceivable to many, and you're right to say it's not a conventional or predictable income source. It's not a profession you could recommend to everyone. Yet, for some, it’s a path chosen consciously, backed by years of experience, calculated risk-taking, and a firm understanding of the games

I havn't done any research, but I will assume that less than 1% of people can make money in poker. You need to have perseverance, concentration, constant learning. It is also worth mentioning that you need to play several tables at once in order to increase your $/hour. Even professionals can lose control or fall into a downtrend. For better earnings, you need to try to enter into a partnership with a poker room, they usually give a higher percentage of rakeback, due to which many professionals earn quite well.

I tried to play poker like this and it's not for me. This is very exhausting.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on July 30, 2023, 11:20:43 AM

Gambling for fun or for the main income, still the house always wins, And gambling purely for fun they only play in their free time or when there is a sense of wanting to play, and with sufficient capital and play gambling with games that he thinks are fun, and also enjoy it while wishing luck.

and gambling as the main source of income in my opinion if it really exists and happens then there will be many people who do it without having to work to earn income for their daily needs. And even though those who are experts there is no guarantee that they will always win consistently.

"House always wins" is a generalized perspective and doesn't consider the gambler's skill, experience, and discipline. Skill-based games like poker provide an avenue where the house edge can be mitigated, and potentially beaten, by savvy, disciplined players

Making a living from gambling might seem inconceivable to many, and you're right to say it's not a conventional or predictable income source. It's not a profession you could recommend to everyone. Yet, for some, it’s a path chosen consciously, backed by years of experience, calculated risk-taking, and a firm understanding of the games

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Gambling for fun or for the main income, still the house always wins, And gambling purely for fun they only play in their free time or when there is a sense of wanting to play, and with sufficient capital and play gambling with games that he thinks are fun, and also enjoy it while wishing luck.

and gambling as the main source of income in my opinion if it really exists and happens then there will be many people who do it without having to work to earn income for their daily needs. And even though those who are experts there is no guarantee that they will always win consistently.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on June 17, 2023, 02:25:02 AM

I never intended to be a professional gambler nor reach the pinnacle of VIP rank. I only gamble to entertain myself and I cannot deny that with that entertainment is the hope to win huge but regardless, whatever the outcome of my session is I make sure that I accept it without any remorse.

This viewpoint towards gambling am sure it saves you a lot of stress giving you peace of mind come what may.

If every gambling can dwell with this mindset not taking gambling as a means to make income we will have a growing number of responsible gamblers with self discipline and a lesser number of gambling addicts that are giving gambling a bad name in the view of the public.
AFAIK, It is near madness to depend on something that is 99% based on luck as a source of income. If there's any doing that they need to retrace their steps.

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Quote from: Popkon6 on July 30, 2023, 09:04:43 AM

Gambling is the most enjoyable because a person who indulges in gambling happily always has a chance of winning. If a gambler becomes addicted to gambling, he needs rest because the over-intoxicated gambler will begin to fail. But I think gambling should be started regularly because it is possible to win every game if you gain experience in gambling. It is not possible for a gambler to suddenly win if you have not been gambling for a long time. So I believe that gambling must be regularly engaged in as a pleasurable activity to be successful in life.

The chances are still the same between gambling with pleasure or wanting to chase winning. The difference is someone who gambles with pleasure will not try to chase victory because they know it is difficult. They will try to enjoy gambling and will not try to chase winning. But those who gamble to earn money will still try hard to get it, and it will be difficult for them. But it is possible for a gambler who has not gambled for a long time to get a win to draw him back into gambling. And if the gambler does not have good self-control, he will surely return to gambling again, and things will not be the same as before this time.

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Quote from: Popkon6 on July 30, 2023, 09:04:43 AM

Gambling is the most enjoyable because a person who indulges in gambling happily always has a chance of winning. If a gambler becomes addicted to gambling, he needs rest because the over-intoxicated gambler will begin to fail. But I think gambling should be started regularly because it is possible to win every game if you gain experience in gambling. It is not possible for a gambler to suddenly win if you have not been gambling for a long time. So I believe that gambling must be regularly engaged in as a pleasurable activity to be successful in life.

when you do it regularly you can get stuck in addiction like you said. what is your perception of addiction? those who come to the casino to bet and try it continuously even when he keeps losing. I think this has often been experienced by almost every gambler. Is it also a form of gambling addiction?
no matter how addicted or regularly you play. The most important thing is that you know that you can wisely determine when you will make a bet and when you will leave the casino.

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Gambling is the most enjoyable because a person who indulges in gambling happily always has a chance of winning. If a gambler becomes addicted to gambling, he needs rest because the over-intoxicated gambler will begin to fail. But I think gambling should be started regularly because it is possible to win every game if you gain experience in gambling. It is not possible for a gambler to suddenly win if you have not been gambling for a long time. So I believe that gambling must be regularly engaged in as a pleasurable activity to be successful in life.

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