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Topic: [Suggestion] Corruption in Judicial (DT) (Read 401 times)

newbie
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May 13, 2020, 05:52:41 AM
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When something serious is spoken make fun, humiliate him and destroy him. Typical. This is what you are always do.

@Theymos's reading will suffice.
copper member
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I'm sometimes known as "miniadmin"
--A solution should be found--

What about....

newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
No Lauda. Because you can easily abuse trust system. A force you use against other members. You do it to make more money on your own accounts. My request for a solution is not for you. You are a real toxic to forum. This topic is much bigger than you. A topic related to the future of the forum.

Is it possible to abuse the system in this way? Yes, definitely. So Corruption in Judicial (DT)

(In Satoshi time, there was no such thing as DT.)
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
Reading in this forum is a forgotten art. It doesn't matter who wrote the thought. It is important who determines the judiciary. If the thought disturbs you, you attack the one who says it. People talk about it in many places. Everyone reacts, except the gang. Do it if you can make a real survey.

Corruption in Judicial (DT). Dozens of DT1 members can trust a proven fraud like Lauda (And many people like him). A deep gang of altaccounts, friends and merit sources. They take their power from secrecy. A solution should be found. If there is a judiciary, there should be no doubt about it.
You also seem to have forgotten how to read. Here let me make it a bit bigger for you.


Is this because nobody wants to hire the Turkish monkeys into campaigns? Cheesy
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
Reading in this forum is a forgotten art. It doesn't matter who wrote the thought. It is important who determines the judiciary. If the thought disturbs you, you attack the one who says it. People talk about it in many places. Everyone reacts, except the gang. Do it if you can make a real survey.

Corruption in Judicial (DT). Dozens of DT1 members can trust a proven fraud like Lauda (And many people like him). A deep gang of altaccounts, friends and merit sources. They take their power from secrecy. A solution should be found. If there is a judiciary, there should be no doubt about it.

legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
Fake concerns by alt account either from ruskis (peloso, Balthazar and others) or turks (wolwoo, Vispilio and others) or CH.
I will not accuse the Russians on this, especially since:
Bitcointalk has been blocked in Russia because of Gambling advertisement
When you write either or, you are speculating and not accusing anyone in particular. Given recent events it was very likely that it was them or the turks, up until suchmoon mentioned the 70% math nonsense. After that point it became clear it was the monkeys from the Turkish section.
legendary
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Merit: 6403
Blackjack.fun
Fake concerns by alt account either from ruskis (peloso, Balthazar and others) or turkis (wolwoo, Vispilio and others) or CH.
I will not accuse the Russians on this, especially since:
Bitcointalk has been blocked in Russia because of Gambling advertisement

This guy motive is pretty clear:
So are you suggesting to turn this forum a safe haven for scammers? If there is not trust system scammers/abuser will scam/abuse people bald-headed.

For a certain "gang" the trust system is ding only one thing, preventing them from doing bounty. Grin, they don't see any other use for this system.
The part about Satoshi shows clearly they haven't even bothered to find what Satoshi really wanted.
legendary
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Merit: 7490
Crypto Swap Exchange
Thread title : [Suggestion] Approved Member in Trust System - No Tor No Vpn
Thread content :
We have to keep Satoshi legacy alive. It's not just for a small group of people. FOR ALL WORLD PEOPLE.


Source : https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/emperor-palpatine-ironic
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Amazon Prime Member #7
If one were to accept the premise that DT is being overrun by alt accounts, which I don't think is a valid assumption, and if you were to ignore the value of privacy the forum gives its userbase, the OP's solution would not solve his stated problem. A simple google search returned several VPN services claiming to provide residential IP addresses for customers, and it would be difficult to filter these IP addresses as belonging to a VPN. There are also devices such as mobile hotspots that someone could use to get around any no alt account rules.
Or you could just get a second home internet connection (both ADSL and cable), which brings us back to KYC again Tongue
Well the coronavirus may cause hell to freeze over, so I would not rule out trust system KYC. I very strongly condemn the trading of identity documents and identity theft, but I will also acknowledge it is possible to obtain KYC related documents illegally.


OT: I honestly didn't appreciate the April fools day prank from this year, however a better prank that would have gotten what I believe to be the message theymos wanted to get across would be something along the lines of giving up freedoms for an unknown threat, such as by publishing bogus Lat/Long coordinates of each user (except for yourself) that could be within the country in your profile, if this is filled out, or announcing that all PMs will be published soon to prevent fake trades. 
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
If one were to accept the premise that DT is being overrun by alt accounts, which I don't think is a valid assumption, and if you were to ignore the value of privacy the forum gives its userbase, the OP's solution would not solve his stated problem. A simple google search returned several VPN services claiming to provide residential IP addresses for customers, and it would be difficult to filter these IP addresses as belonging to a VPN. There are also devices such as mobile hotspots that someone could use to get around any no alt account rules.
Or you could just get a second home internet connection (both ADSL and cable), which brings us back to KYC again Tongue
copper member
Activity: 1624
Merit: 1899
Amazon Prime Member #7
Fake concerns by alt account either from ruskis (peloso, Balthazar and others) or turkis (wolwoo, Vispilio and others) or CH.

This is definitely an alt account as no newbie makes their first post in this board. The guy the alt is from must have very good writing skills since his post was not laced with grammar inconsistencies, so you can rule out cryptohunter.

You having debated with them before can probably figure out which one it is.
The OP made it clear he is posting from an alt:
Note: I wanted to write my thoughts freely. Without ridiculous judgments of the Dt gang!


If one were to accept the premise that DT is being overrun by alt accounts, which I don't think is a valid assumption, and if you were to ignore the value of privacy the forum gives its userbase, the OP's solution would not solve his stated problem. A simple google search returned several VPN services claiming to provide residential IP addresses for customers, and it would be difficult to filter these IP addresses as belonging to a VPN. There are also devices such as mobile hotspots that someone could use to get around any no alt account rules.

One might be able to argue that DT causes a lot of drama. I don't think anyone can really disagree there is a lot of drama around the DT system, while there are probably some disagreements as to the underlying root cause of this drama. If we were to get rid of the DT system, after a period of time, trust lists would resemble something similar to DT, and we would be back to where we are today. The reason why someone is on DT is that they have been added to many people's trust lists.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
Fake concerns by alt account either from ruskis (peloso, Balthazar and others) or turkis (wolwoo, Vispilio and others) or CH.
This is definitely an alt account as no newbie makes their first post in this board. The guy the alt is from must have very good writing skills since his post was not laced with grammar inconsistencies, so you can rule out cryptohunter.

You having debated with them before can probably figure out which one it is.
Suchmoon pretty much nailed it by remembering the 70% fake math nonsense. Given that is some butthurt and greedy idiot from the Turkish section, their insignificance makes it a waste of time to even try to figure out exactly who.

The fake math about the 70% chance and some other "proven" fantasies seem to be lifted from here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/default-trust-oylamalarna-nasl-katlabilirim-bu-neden-onemlidir-5246495
Thanks for the source. Then it must be somebody from the Turkish sub part of the abuser or a strong supporter of theirs.
legendary
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bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
Fake concerns by alt account either from ruskis (peloso, Balthazar and others) or turkis (wolwoo, Vispilio and others) or CH.

This is definitely an alt account as no newbie makes their first post in this board. The guy the alt is from must have very good writing skills since his post was not laced with grammar inconsistencies, so you can rule out cryptohunter.

You having debated with them before can probably figure out which one it is.
legendary
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Merit: 7064
Wait whaaat?
Even Satoshi used Tor browser (that changes IP all the time) and I think many other members are doing the same thing.
Everyone who cares about their privacy should be doing this, and not only on bitcointalk forum, and for notorious DT trust system.

PS
Nothing better than 1 post 'newbie' suggestions  Tongue
legendary
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Merit: 1104
Note: I wanted to write my thoughts freely. Without ridiculous judgments of the Dt gang![/size]

it more like you don't want to take responsibility on what you want to say. it just shows insincerity and uncertainty about your case on your part. if you can't say it proudly and will just hide on an alt account no one is gonna take you seriously.
sr. member
Activity: 1204
Merit: 388
Users using the Trust system should be prohibited from using VPN and tor. I'm sure most dt members create their own dt gang with their alt accounts.

Sorry I don't get your point on this one. How does prohibiting members using TOR and VPN solve the "issues" in the trust system? Since I don't see any direct relation between a member using VPN and his/her right on voting in the trust system or am I just missing something?

No need to argue with this user who is scared to have use his main account to create this topic.

There's no relation in his point, it's no one's concern how the internet is being used, as long as it's not used for scam. VPN purpose has nothing to do with manipulation of DT.
hero member
Activity: 1806
Merit: 672
Users using the Trust system should be prohibited from using VPN and tor. I'm sure most dt members create their own dt gang with their alt accounts.

Sorry I don't get your point on this one. How does prohibiting members using TOR and VPN solve the "issues" in the trust system? Since I don't see any direct relation between a member using VPN and his/her right on voting in the trust system or am I just missing something? Besides that I don't even see this as a possible solution considering that the admin has no control towards how the users visit Bitcointalk, users use ad blockers, VPN, and the TOR browser but I don't see theymos prohibiting them since it's their choice to do so.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
Fake concerns by alt account either from ruskis (peloso, Balthazar and others) or turkis (wolwoo, Vispilio and others) or CH.
The fake math about the 70% chance and some other "proven" fantasies seem to be lifted from here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/default-trust-oylamalarna-nasl-katlabilirim-bu-neden-onemlidir-5246495

Thanks for the source. Then it must be somebody from the Turkish sub part of the abuser or a strong supporter of theirs.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
DT1-election Rank up pipeline. 185 members seem eligible. 134 members were elected.
That's incorrect. 134 members were eligible, and 100 were elected.

Users using the Trust system should be prohibited from using VPN and tor.
Do you want to add KYC too?

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Those who merit source or who can win merit can easily place an account on the list.
Please provide a list of those corrupt Merit sources. Don't forget to add conclusive evidence.

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It is impossible to talk about trust in an environment where members can remain hidden.
How about you start posting with your real account? You're literally hiding while talking about trust, which, according to your own words, is impossible.
legendary
Activity: 2282
Merit: 2196
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So are you suggesting to turn this forum a safe haven for scammers? If there is not trust system scammers/abuser will scam/abuse people bald-headed. And for prevent them trust system has been implemented, not to prevent alt account. Creating alt isn't against forum rules nor against of trust system, but if you try to abuse trust/forum system then its matter of prevent abusive alts. Forum wouldn't run by emotion of every single users here. Some users do not like trust system and some users do not like merit system, admin could hear all the suggestions from them. How are you expecting verification since the creator of this forum isn't verified yet?

Please post from your main account instead of create alts. It doesn't necessary to create alt account to make a suggestion.
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