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Quote from: Talk merit on March 31, 2018, 09:54:29 AM

Quote from: SimplyEverything on March 31, 2018, 09:43:23 AM

i believe there are more and more shit post flooding to the forum as people wants to try their luck to gain merits...

That sums it up, and the ones that get the merits use their skills.

Yup i understand but what if we could have rMerits? Which helps users who can't really write quality post help them in a way maybe getting Full Members requires 200 rMerits / 100 Merits ?
rMerits is like for the hunters who tracks suspicious activities in the forum and reporting those and gain a fair reputation themselves?

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Quote from: SimplyEverything on March 31, 2018, 09:43:23 AM

i believe there are more and more shit post flooding to the forum as people wants to try their luck to gain merits...

That sums it up, and the ones that get the merits use their skills.

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Quote from: zakalwe on March 16, 2018, 05:52:51 PM

Quote from: testingbits on February 20, 2018, 02:03:58 PM

Why just not remove the possibility to rank up,
existing members keep their rank and all new members becomes newbies (forever).
BCT is about info/knowledges on bitcoin and cryptos, not merit and ranking up

What do you mean? Why would you remove ranking up? This is not fair to new members who write quality posts and contribute a lot to this forum.
Yes, purpose of bitcointalk is that people can learn about bitcoin and everything connected to blockchain, but ranking system also has it's own purpose. For example newbies can't set up avatar, if they could, then there would be too many new accounts which would just spam all threads to show of their avatar and advertise something with their picture. But people who write good posts deserve to have ability to set up avatar, even if they joined only recently. Your suggestion would be discrimination against them.

Exactly the Rank system is to prove that this person is trustable / has quality like a reputation system.
But the Merits are hard to earn, i believe there are more and more shit post flooding to the forum as people wants to try their luck to gain merits...
the above i suggested what do you think? Vote / comment on it thank you Cheesy

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Quote from: testingbits on February 20, 2018, 02:03:58 PM

Why just not remove the possibility to rank up,
existing members keep their rank and all new members becomes newbies (forever).
BCT is about info/knowledges on bitcoin and cryptos, not merit and ranking up

What do you mean? Why would you remove ranking up? This is not fair to new members who write quality posts and contribute a lot to this forum.
Yes, purpose of bitcointalk is that people can learn about bitcoin and everything connected to blockchain, but ranking system also has it's own purpose. For example newbies can't set up avatar, if they could, then there would be too many new accounts which would just spam all threads to show of their avatar and advertise something with their picture. But people who write good posts deserve to have ability to set up avatar, even if they joined only recently. Your suggestion would be discrimination against them.

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Why just not remove the possibility to rank up,
existing members keep their rank and all new members becomes newbies (forever).
BCT is about info/knowledges on bitcoin and cryptos, not merit and ranking up

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I don´t think it will work. If it would be implemented we will become new forum class - headhunters. Who will look through forum to find something "not allowed" with hope to receive merit and upgrade rank.

But, in some cases it will definitely help - stopping trolls and bots/spammers who post non-stop bounty reports with quotes from all previous posts. Am I the only one who find that very annoying Roll Eyes

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Quote from: FRJ on February 19, 2018, 11:49:55 AM

Unique idea indeed.I salute your thinking but I think your proposal carries both good and bad effect.
Good side is, the spammers will get a good learn who always creates disturbance in the forum.By report to mods,we can make give them a good lesson.

Bad side is, you will find some people(you must) who will report to moderator without any fruitful reason.You have to believe that there are still some greedy people who will do this kind of low quality job.This can be harmful for someone.We must think about the contribution to the forum,not to only the rank.

But,the system can make us easier to get merits,I do agree.

Yes that's why if the person reported without a fruitful reason the rMerit will deduct the score? Good idea?

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Awesome Idea i think the rMerit is good but surely people will abuse it and eventually find a loop hole and find ways to earn rMerits / Merits

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Unique idea indeed.I salute your thinking but I think your proposal carries both good and bad effect.
Good side is, the spammers will get a good learn who always creates disturbance in the forum.By report to mods,we can make give them a good lesson.

Bad side is, you will find some people(you must) who will report to moderator without any fruitful reason.You have to believe that there are still some greedy people who will do this kind of low quality job.This can be harmful for someone.We must think about the contribution to the forum,not to only the rank.

But,the system can make us easier to get merits,I do agree.

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I think this is a good thing to be implemented what do you think If you miss this post. Let me know what features do you think that should be implemented/ added on

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Quote from: Thule on January 28, 2018, 04:42:39 PM

The most dumb idea's i have ever read.

You guys have clearly never seen high professional software to build accounts with high quality posts which are taken from other sources.

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we could make their life harder by banning them

Maybe we should ban your brain.You are going to decide who deserve to get banned or not ?

Total noobs no clue what they are talking about but who are very quickly with overusing and abusing power

Sorry if I offended you I'm just trying to contribute ideas if mine to make the forum better? If u think this idea is dumb then give me 1 good idea from you, I'm not challenging you I'm just wondering why are you so offended?

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The most dumb idea's i have ever read.

You guys have clearly never seen high professional software to build accounts with high quality posts which are taken from other sources.

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we could make their life harder by banning them

Maybe we should ban your brain.You are going to decide who deserve to get banned or not ?

Total noobs no clue what they are talking about but who are very quickly with overusing and abusing power

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Quote from: Husires on January 28, 2018, 02:15:36 AM

Quote from: SimplyEverything on January 28, 2018, 01:10:57 AM

Quote from: Husires on January 28, 2018, 01:09:42 AM

But I can make 10 new accounts (copy/paste) and report to Mods.
Mods will ban accounts and send me 10 merits.
Rank up and repeat. Wink

That's why we could report whoever is doing that?

How about we call report merit (rMerits)? A different section to gain points on? Which will bring a whole new system into the forum? rMerits couldn't be given or what only be gained and it's a system showing how much this particular person contribute to the forum?
Merits for quality post
rMerits for contribution on cleaning the forum?

I agree with you. We need more encouragement
1. (I remember that the admin was making a list of higher reporters ).
2. better than rMerits give them (customer titles, golden Star,...etc ).

The main goal of merit system is improve post quality (you must get higher merits for that reason only).

Yes that's what should be implemented feel free to add in more features if you guys think that could be improved and make sure to vote.

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Quote from: SimplyEverything on January 28, 2018, 01:10:57 AM

Quote from: Husires on January 28, 2018, 01:09:42 AM

But I can make 10 new accounts (copy/paste) and report to Mods.
Mods will ban accounts and send me 10 merits.
Rank up and repeat. Wink

That's why we could report whoever is doing that?

How about we call report merit (rMerits)? A different section to gain points on? Which will bring a whole new system into the forum? rMerits couldn't be given or what only be gained and it's a system showing how much this particular person contribute to the forum?
Merits for quality post
rMerits for contribution on cleaning the forum?

I agree with you. We need more encouragement
1. (I remember that the admin was making a list of higher reporters ).
2. better than rMerits give them (customer titles, golden Star,...etc ).

The main goal of merit system is improve post quality (you must get higher merits for that reason only).

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Quote from: krishnaverma on January 28, 2018, 01:59:23 AM

Quote from: SimplyEverything on January 27, 2018, 06:17:06 PM

First there are way to many people selling BCT account at market place and Mod can't catch up with everything so I suggest using the report button every 10 report made could allow you to earn some merit?

I know your intentions are to improve this forum but you also need to thin about whether the propose change is practical or not. The system you suggested can be gamed in a number of ways:

1) A user can create 10 accounts , make 10 spam posts each from that account. The he will report all these from main account and earn Smerit. That is an easy way to get Smerit and spammers will completely ruin the new system.

2) One this feature is introduced, there will be a race among users. Many of them will start digging through posts made years back and reporting them. It is nice if those are removed but that will be a lot of work for the moderators.

That's why I suggest rMerit, which is a whole new system.
Merits stays the same - quality post
rMerits means cleaning up the forum / contribute level

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Quote from: SimplyEverything on January 27, 2018, 06:17:06 PM

First there are way to many people selling BCT account at market place and Mod can't catch up with everything so I suggest using the report button every 10 report made could allow you to earn some merit?

I know your intentions are to improve this forum but you also need to thin about whether the propose change is practical or not. The system you suggested can be gamed in a number of ways:

1) A user can create 10 accounts , make 10 spam posts each from that account. The he will report all these from main account and earn Smerit. That is an easy way to get Smerit and spammers will completely ruin the new system.

2) One this feature is introduced, there will be a race among users. Many of them will start digging through posts made years back and reporting them. It is nice if those are removed but that will be a lot of work for the moderators.

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Quote from: Husires on January 28, 2018, 01:09:42 AM

But I can make 10 new accounts (copy/paste) and report to Mods.
Mods will ban accounts and send me 10 merits.
Rank up and repeat.

Exactly. There is no good way to detect that; it'd only become possible to see patterns over a long period of time, and only if you really look closely.

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Quote from: Husires on January 28, 2018, 01:09:42 AM

But I can make 10 new accounts (copy/paste) and report to Mods.
Mods will ban accounts and send me 10 merits.
Rank up and repeat. Wink

That's why we could report whoever is doing that?

How about we call report merit (rMerits)? A different section to gain points on? Which will bring a whole new system into the forum? rMerits couldn't be given or what only be gained and it's a system showing how much this particular person contribute to the forum?
Merits for quality post
rMerits for contribution on cleaning the forum?

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But I can make 10 new accounts (copy/paste) and report to Mods.
Mods will ban accounts and send me 10 merits.
Rank up and repeat. Wink

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Quote from: Thirio on January 27, 2018, 11:53:13 PM

I am somehow against this. Although you proposed something to prevent report hunters, i don't think reward system would stop them. The main purpose of the merit system is to push everybody to post quality posts to gain merits and to discourage shit posters by not letting them rank up easily.

Why am i against this?

1. People would have another choice to increase their merits. Therefore, they may rely on hunting spammers, abusers, etc. on gaining merits. Instead of improving or changing their way of posting if there are much easier ways to gain merits.

2. Moderators/admin would have another task to manage. Imagine the majority report hunting to gain merits, admins/moderators would have tons of report to check plus mass reporting may caused headache to the mods (more than 1 account may report a single spammer). Or even worse, mass reporting can be abused by group of people who are bullying some accounts.

Sorry if i'm against this, best regards!

I also think the same way as you, because their will gonna be instances when shitposters will not be urge to improve their posts but will rely only to report to gain easy merit. It could be abused by others, and after sometime they will report "Report abuse" then the real problem wont stop.

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