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Quote from: Vod on May 03, 2024, 11:17:53 PM

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Newbies so often start threads and then abandon their account when conversations do not go their way. Then other newbies come along and reply to the OP that hasn't been online for weeks.

It would be nice to have a notice near the name if the user has not logged in a while. i.e: (Inactive for 6 days). Could just be for newbies, or for every topic starter.

The warning "This post is xx days old!" does not address this issue.

This is an interesting observation/suggestion being made and i support for that, it will help keep on a track on each of the thread in situations whereby the Op to such thread isn't active anymore or has already been given the required and necessary response needed from the thread, instead of other members spamming up and posting, it could either be locked or notified on any user to that it has been a while since the last active day of the OP, i think something similar to this has already been existing in the situation whereby when you want to make post on old threads, you will receive information warning it been a while since last reply has been made to that thread.

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on May 06, 2024, 01:47:42 PM

If I try to reply to something very old, a warning appears at me... perhaps something could be added to this message about the OP being inactive...

But there are also people talking in the thread, I don't know if it would make sense, sometimes the OP doesn't even participate anymore... but the topic continues

To me nothing is needed to added to this because this everything clear to everyone except such a person is a spammer or something good, they won`t bump just thread. This is not base on inactive members only because there so many other post of such were the Op is still active but that thread is still very much old.

I think the best option is to report thread to be lock, were its clear that there is already an answer to the OP post and others continue to make an irrelevant reply similar to this shared by Lucius

Quote from: Vod on May 06, 2024, 01:53:18 PM

Even here, people are replying without reading anything, so maybe it's just an outdated idea for an outdated forum.

I guess this is inevitable in every forum, some read the Op post and ignore others replies while others read only replies before making their own reply.

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Quote from: Vod on May 03, 2024, 11:17:53 PM

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If it will help the flow of conversation why not

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Newbies so often start threads and then abandon their account when conversations do not go their way. Then other newbies come along and reply to the OP that hasn't been online for weeks.

There are discussions where the Original Poster doesn't need to be online during the flow of the discussion in the case of a boxing event one can open a discussion about two fighters fighting for a World title, and there are two months before the fight, the discussion will continue and everyone can provide updates

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It would be nice to have a notice near the name if the user has not logged in a while. i.e: (Inactive for 6 days). Could just be for newbies, or for every topic starter.

The warning "This post is xx days old!" does not address this issue.

If the OP opened a thread about his issue or complaints, which is considered a personal issue, then this is an instance where we need this feature.

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Quote from: Xal0lex on May 04, 2024, 10:15:34 AM

Quote from: Plaguedeath on May 04, 2024, 02:28:01 AM

Why it sounds like people should only reply a thread if the poster is active?

I don't see anything wrong when people reply to inactive poster because the discussion isn't only for the poster, but other people that interested with the discussion can learn something and ask other questions in that thread.

I've seen many threads where the authors of those threads are banned, yet discussions continue in those threads.

Yep Boss!
You said it right that many banned OP's threads are still under discussion despite they being banned from the forum, but members are still doing their discussion in it. And I think the main reason for this is to discuss the topic not the OP's presence. Every member should aim at what the OP has elobrated, not this that he should be active or that he's in a discussion or not blah blah because we are not for that we are just for having to learn our knowledge or seeking a solution for the problems And we can explore ideas from the OP's topic, If a topic is general, then it is important to participate in the discussion, whether the OP is active or not.

Apart from this, I have also seen many threads in which the OP has asked for a solution to his problem, although many members have answered it, but the OP has not even replied in this thread because sometimes some newbies. They bring up such topics only for merit and do not even give a response to anyone in them when they get an answer to their problem.

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Even here, people are replying without reading anything, so maybe it's just an outdated idea for an outdated forum.

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If I try to reply to something very old, a warning appears at me... perhaps something could be added to this message about the OP being inactive...

But there are also people talking in the thread, I don't know if it would make sense, sometimes the OP doesn't even participate anymore... but the topic continues

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Quote from: Vod on May 03, 2024, 11:17:53 PM

It would be nice to have a notice near the name if the user has not logged in a while. i.e: (Inactive for 6 days). Could just be for newbies, or for every topic starter.

It can be useful to see this information but I think that BPIP extension is already showing status for everyone including Inactive members, but I am not sure what time period it counts to identify if member is inactive.
Extension is also showing banned and archived members, DT status, links for BPIP; Ninjastic.space and loyce.club.

Here is example for one Inacitve member I choose randomly:

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Quote from: Vod on May 05, 2024, 05:09:00 PM

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Considering the very high percentage of those who open a topic and never come back to comment, I think that such a feature would be very useful. I learned a long time ago that suggestions are not something that has an effect on this forum, so if you want to do something right, you have to do it the hard way.

I believe that in this way the amount of spam generated in such a topics would be reduced, otherwise we have topics with 15+ pages in which members literally spam as long as you give them the opportunity to do so. Here's a classic example of what I'm talking about - a topic opened in September 2021 that stretched to 16 pages and where the OP never came back would still be open to spammers today if I hadn't made a report.

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Quote from: Lucius on May 05, 2024, 05:26:11 AM

What would perhaps be a better solution is that the topic is automatically locked after x days after the OP publishes the last post in the topic.

Sorry, I think this solution is worse. There are times when one wants to bump an abandoned thread, so we should suggest rather than force.

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Such information will certainly not prevent beginners and many others who have been on the forum for a long time from writing something in the topic, regardless of how long the OP has not been active and regardless of the fact that the question has been answered several times.

What would perhaps be a better solution is that the topic is automatically locked after x days after the OP publishes the last post in the topic. That way, we could prevent topics from turning into spam megathreads. It's not just beginners, we also have members with higher ranks who open a topic and never come back to comment on anything.

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This idea is cool but I if it can be more applicable to very old and dead topic, that will be fine. A topic that the OP is just offline for 6 day or some weeks should not qualify for such classifications but rather a dead topic which the OP have not been active for some number of months or a year and also if the thread is long dead.

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It will not deter newbies from posting if they are posting only to increase their post count.

It might help shoo away the older members who know that there is no reason to comment and add to the previous replies but only reply is something new has come up which is relevant and on point (aka not a necropost)

Hence I would support this idea, something like "OP has not logged in for this many days/ This thread is so may years old" might make some level of impact on necroposting or allow the poster to get backlinks from this forum to their shit-site. << a good example is one such thread in "Gambling" where the Newbie's sole intention was to promote a site and so they made the post and then left their account.

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Your response is thoughtful and brings up valid points.

You acknowledge the potential usefulness of indicating inactive users but highlight that it might not deter newbies from replying to old threads. You suggest that newbies often skip reading the opening post and instead focus on the latest activity, so a notice about the last activity might be more effective.
Overall, you provide constructive feedback while proposing an alternative approach to addressing the issue.

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Quote from: Rikafip on May 04, 2024, 12:34:08 PM

Quote from: Alone055 on May 04, 2024, 01:59:56 AM

Most often, newbies don't even read the opening post, they rush to the last page of the topic and find something to write about what others have written on that page.

I got the imporession that situation is completely opposite, people reading only the opening post and totally ignoring everything else, which isn;'t any better than the situation that you explained.

I think it depends on the boards, in the BD sections or the Economics they just look at the OP, in the gambling sections mega topics they just rephrase what the last poster was saying and that's it, no way spammers would waste their time watching enough football or basketball matches to actually know what they are talking about.

Anyhow, I don't see how the idea would improve anything, spammers ignore warnings about old topics and still necrobump them, no way they will care about another tag.

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Quote from: Vod on May 03, 2024, 11:17:53 PM

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$1m? Did I just read the op correctly, vod?

Eh, that's about the move to epochtalk having a budget bigger than some gaming companies and being in development for a decade.

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It would be a good addition, but I often see that beginners or even not-so-newbies can respond to topics created several months ago that have long since lost their relevance. Therefore, hanging a sign for those who have no eyes will be a waste of time. Normal people should monitor the author’s activity on their own; it’s not difficult.
In other cases, you can ask the moderators to close the topic since the author has already received dozens of replies, and the moderators, fortunately, are always very responsive.

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Quote from: Vod on May 03, 2024, 11:17:53 PM

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Quote from: Vod on May 03, 2024, 11:17:53 PM

Newbies so often start threads and then abandon their account when conversations do not go their way. Then other newbies come along and reply to the OP that hasn't been online for weeks.

It would be nice to have a notice near the name if the user has not logged in a while. i.e: (Inactive for 6 days). Could just be for newbies, or for every topic starter.

The warning "This post is xx days old!" does not address this issue.

Sadly this will not help in 98% of the cases. Many, even older members, post without reading. Many answer to the title and don't even read the content. And so on, and so on.
And the very few ones who would maybe notice that "flag" under the OP name... would be stopped also by a "This post is xx days old!" warning.

And yes, as some said, there are valid cases the discussion can just go on.

Quote from: tranthidung on May 04, 2024, 11:52:12 AM

BPIP extension from a new team, after you left that project, has it for the extension users because I saw some people made screenshots with Inactive, DT1, DT2 badge.

I strongly believe that Vod knows that and his topic is about newbies/newcomcomers, not about the ones who stay around for long enough to find out about the BPIP extension.

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Quote from: Alone055 on May 04, 2024, 01:59:56 AM

Most often, newbies don't even read the opening post, they rush to the last page of the topic and find something to write about what others have written on that page.

I got the imporession that situation is completely opposite, people reading only the opening post and totally ignoring everything else, which isn;'t any better than the situation that you explained.

As for the suggestion of a new feature, I woulnd't mind having something like that, but I don't think that it will make people actually paying attention to who are they repying.

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Quote from: Vod on May 03, 2024, 11:17:53 PM

It would be nice to have a notice near the name if the user has not logged in a while. i.e: (Inactive for 6 days). Could just be for newbies, or for every topic starter.

Bpip extension has this "Inactive" besides the name for inactive users, it will be a temporary solution if this will be added there as well. Well, for that purpose, this will not prevent others to reply the thread just like other mentioned not unless the thread is lock or reported to be locked.

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Quote from: Vod on May 03, 2024, 11:17:53 PM

It would be nice to have a notice near the name if the user has not logged in a while. i.e: (Inactive for 6 days). Could just be for newbies, or for every topic starter.

The warning "This post is xx days old!" does not address this issue.

BPIP extension from a new team, after you left that project, has it for the extension users because I saw some people made screenshots with Inactive, DT1, DT2 badge.

The BPIP team can build it up for Inactive last 6 days or 30 days. The current Inactive status with BPIP is based on forum criteria on inactive users, I remember it is 6 months.

From idea of that extension, let's see will PowerGlove can do anything if he has time.

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Quote from: Vod on May 03, 2024, 11:17:53 PM

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$1m? Did I just read the op correctly, vod?

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Newbies so often start threads and then abandon their account when conversations do not go their way. Then other newbies come along and reply to the OP that hasn't been online for weeks.

That only happens mostly on introductory threads IMHO. We've got a few more of 'em that would come around and ask questions, then disappear just about the time the topic becomes debatable. As long as Bitcointalk remains a forum for frequent discussion, that could be useful - depending on what the context says! ^{[ofcourse, ain't they creative newbies?]}

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It would be nice to have a notice near the name if the user has not logged in a while. i.e: (Inactive for 6 days). Could just be for newbies, or for every topic starter.

Again, If Theymos considers this to be perfect, it could go for an adoption. Personally, I don't think it's necessary i.e ( if the budget for the hosting is exactly what you described)

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on May 04, 2024, 02:28:01 AM

Why it sounds like people should only reply a thread if the poster is active?

I don't see anything wrong when people reply to inactive poster because the discussion isn't only for the poster, but other people that interested with the discussion can learn something and ask other questions in that thread.

In short it depends on the topic started by the Owner. And also I agree with this mate not all topics are too useful but it it depends on the main purpose of the topic. Some topics are useful so some of the time many users will reply on that thread and also those users who reply us that they will give thier ideas or learned something from other users. So if the Poster is in active then the thread he/she made will still active because of the useful topics. Anyways it won't long last forever. There's a chance that the topic will close so the users will not gonna make a reply.

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Quote from: Vod on May 03, 2024, 11:17:53 PM

It would be nice to have a notice near the name if the user has not logged in a while. i.e: (Inactive for 6 days). Could just be for newbies, or for every topic starter.

Even if this is implemented and a notice is added, it wouldn't still stop users who want to reply to that topic from doing so, thus it does not change anything.

Quote from: joker_josue on May 04, 2024, 04:03:01 AM

Even so, if the question raised by the OP is somewhat coherent, despite him having "disappeared", it remains a question that deserves an answer.

Correct, particularly if there is a new information to add to the topic or if there are wrong and misleading ideas in the thread that needs to be corrected.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on May 04, 2024, 02:28:01 AM

Why it sounds like people should only reply a thread if the poster is active?

I don't see anything wrong when people reply to inactive poster because the discussion isn't only for the poster, but other people that interested with the discussion can learn something and ask other questions in that thread.

I've seen many threads where the authors of those threads are banned, yet discussions continue in those threads.

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I agree with plaguedeath and joker_josue.

I have learnt from many threads that I was not a part of. If any poster had stopped replying cause the thread starter had been inactive, I'ld have not gotten to read their posts, except I commented asking further questions or created my own topic further cluttering the board.

Besides it doesn't matter to most if the topic starter is active. Within a couple of minutes, hours at most each thread gets the answer the op is looking for. This doesn't stop anyone from posting the same answer in different ways to either fulfill their post count or increase their activity.

I'll encourage reporting threads that have gotten their answer to be locked by the mods.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on May 04, 2024, 02:28:01 AM

Why it sounds like people should only reply a thread if the poster is active?

I don't see anything wrong when people reply to inactive poster because the discussion isn't only for the poster, but other people that interested with the discussion can learn something and ask other questions in that thread.

I also agree with this, a topic does not have to be aimed solely at its creator. It can be useful for any user.

I understand the point raised by the OP, I sometimes check this information myself before posting. Even so, if the question raised by the OP is somewhat coherent, despite him having "disappeared", it remains a question that deserves an answer.

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Quote from: Vod on May 03, 2024, 11:17:53 PM

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Newbies so often start threads and then abandon their account when conversations do not go their way. Then other newbies come along and reply to the OP that hasn't been online for weeks.

It would be nice to have a notice near the name if the user has not logged in a while. i.e: (Inactive for 6 days). Could just be for newbies, or for every topic starter.

The warning "This post is xx days old!" does not address this issue.

Interesting suggestion bro but this is an open forum we are not partaking of information between ourselves we are sharing the information we have here on the internet for those interested in the topic.

So if one newbie drops a discussion that will become relevant for many weeks, months, or even generations it doesn't matter even if he signs up then post that discussion, and then leaves, as long as the discussion is relevant and there's a possibility of continuity.

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Why it sounds like people should only reply a thread if the poster is active?

I don't see anything wrong when people reply to inactive poster because the discussion isn't only for the poster, but other people that interested with the discussion can learn something and ask other questions in that thread.

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It could be useful for other forum members, but would that stop newbies from replying to such threads? I don't think so.

Most often, newbies don't even read the opening post, they rush to the last page of the topic and find something to write about what others have written on that page. So even though I think this can be a good addition for members who care about such things, this wouldn't necessarily solve the issue you have mentioned.

And, I think instead of writing "Inactive for xx days!" around the post starter, it should say something like, "Latest activity: [date]" or something like that because most of the time, people don't abandon their accounts but they abandon the threads they have started while staying active around the forum.

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Newbies so often start threads and then abandon their account when conversations do not go their way. Then other newbies come along and reply to the OP that hasn't been online for weeks.

It would be nice to have a notice near the name if the user has not logged in a while. i.e: (Inactive for 6 days). Could just be for newbies, or for every topic starter.

The warning "This post is xx days old!" does not address this issue.

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