Suggestion to reduce signature campaign spam posts - page 2.

panganib999

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Quote from: ptrk on November 11, 2019, 10:19:23 AM

In my opinion, this is also due to the fact that the minimum number of posts for signature campaigns is far too high and the participants are virtually "forced" to write useless posts. Normal active users write between 3-4 posts a week, if at all. However, many signature campaigns require at least 15 or 20 posts.

This number of required posts per day would really be draining for a person since human body isn't that powerful and has its limits, especially mentally. When the members that are part of bounties continually deals with the long term stress and activation of their brain, their body's stress response releases cortisol that is higher than the usual level, this will eventually interfere with body's function, amd since the members are highly obliged to make a content and post something just so they would still get paid and won't get kicked out of the campaign. I think what is needed to be done for this spamming problem to be resolved is to really lower the post count per day, now if lowering the count of posts needed isn't possible, the campaign could set up a higher standards in accepting members that will participate to the campaign, just so the quality of the posts are guaranteed since the dedication and the ability of the member is also guaranteed.

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Quote from: Welsh on November 11, 2019, 10:24:51 AM

I'm not saying you have to report, but the tools are there to deal with the issues we have in the community, as a community by reporting, and bringing certain users to the attention of the signature campaign manager.

My problem with reporting is that despite having more than a hundred reports (76 users), most of them are left unaffected by the deleted posts.

I think that some of the offenders at the top of this list are banned, but they have over 200 deleted posts.

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It just feels like there's been a lot of leeway. I remember seeing more temp bans for spam in the past.

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There is nothing new to fight against spammers. We already know how to do this as long as the forum releases new spam-fighting systems like bump score months ago.
In a nutshell, to effectively fight against spam, it requires strong cooperations among users (through their reports and their posts), admins/ moderators (how they handle reports from users), and managers of campaigns (how they manage their campaigns: choosing participants and kick out bad participants over time).
There are some good points you can find in my topics:
Since 2018, what did you contribute to preventing signature ads removed globally?
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Reporting bad posts is a good tool that officially provides by the forum. [Guide] Reporting effectively.
Beyond using the report button to report to moderators, you can report bad posts or topics to that one:
[CLUB] The SpamBusters! Busting rule-breakers for more than a year.
There are thousands of spammers detected and destroyed by the Spambuster club.

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Quote from: ptrk on November 11, 2019, 10:19:23 AM

Wouldn't it therefore be a useful measure to prohibit signature campaigns to require a minimum number of posts per week or month? Or at least a minimum number of 1 to 3 posts per week or not more than 10 a month?

It's the signature campaign manager's decision at all to limit the posts of a participant per day/week because participants are paid by it but it is the manager's duty as well to warn or remove the participant if he just does some countless spam. If you stumble upon spam post it's just simple to click that "Report to moderator" button so you can inform mods or as what Welsh just said you may contact the manager if he just posting spams.

Probably you've read spam posts on some threads that aren't moderated well or that/those user/s are probably wearing signatures that aren't properly managed by the manager of that signature, most often that really happens.

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Quote from: Welsh on November 11, 2019, 10:24:51 AM

Rather than restricting signature campaigns it would be better to just hold the signature campaign managers responsible, as well as those making those posts.

Agreed, plus this has been suggested at least once before and I don't think Theymos is interested in imposing strict rules on signature campaign managers or owners or the campaigns themselves.

And hey, at least Yobit's campaign lowered their posts per day maximum to five, which should help things considerably even though Yahoo62278 is doing a fine job managing that campaign. Aside from all the bounties, that's probably where most of the shitposting offenders are coming from these days.

Quote from: ptrk on November 11, 2019, 10:19:23 AM

Normal active users write between 3-4 posts a week, if at all. However, many signature campaigns require at least 15 or 20 posts.

15 to 20 posts per week really isn't a hell of a lot, and that leaves you plenty of time to think about what you're writing. Unfortunately I think the issue is that a lot of campaign participants (and bounty hunters) have multiple alts, each also participating in campaigns and this spreads their posting time kind of thin--so they don't put much effort into their posts.

I'm fine with reporting what I perceive as shitposts, and at least it makes me feel like I did something to help the problem rather than wait for a new rule to be made. I would suggest OP do the same.

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How many times do you report the posts you come across to either the moderators if it's bad enough that it warrants removal from the forum or to the campaign managers running their signature campaign? Rather than restricting signature campaigns it would be better to just hold the signature campaign managers responsible, as well as those making those posts.

I'm not saying you have to report, but the tools are there to deal with the issues we have in the community, as a community by reporting, and bringing certain users to the attention of the signature campaign manager.

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Quote from: ptrk on November 11, 2019, 10:19:23 AM

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What do you think?

When you find a meaningless post or spam that is off topic then report it to the moderator. This is as simple as it is.

Talking about the signature campaigns, I think it really up to the dev and the manager who is managing it. They are spending money to get exposure for their business or product whatever it is and they should have the full right to chose what they want keeping the forum interest in mind.

We really can not force them to do certain things that may lose their interest to advertise in here too. It always has to have a balance and I think we are not doing bad in it so far.

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Despite recent efforts to reduce signature campaign spam, it is still ubiquitous. How often do I read any meaningless posts in any dead threads or other completely irrelevant posts in poor quality by users wearing a advertisement in the signature.

In my opinion, this is also due to the fact that the minimum number of posts for signature campaigns is far too high and the participants are virtually "forced" to write useless posts. Normal active users write between 3-4 posts a week, if at all. However, many signature campaigns require at least 15 or 20 posts.

Wouldn't it therefore be a useful measure to prohibit signature campaigns to require a minimum number of posts per week or month? Or at least a minimum number of 1 to 3 posts per week or not more than 10 a month?

The maximum number of posts can still be chosen arbitrarily, as there are also some power users who write many high quality posts.

What do you think?

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