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February 12, 2021, 05:40:10 PM
#26
Do you want to make bitcointalk escrow service or public bitcoin service?
if your site service for the forum it is easy, you need to deposit some Bitcoins for trusted member(s), and then centrally manage the site.
If any problem occurs, the member can open a report in scam board and the trusted member(s) will release extra escrow amount.
It will make the fees less and the process automatic.
Bitmixcoin.io did the same thing on this forum. They put 5 bitcoin into escrow with our user - zazarb. Once they gained some trust, they redeemed their escrowed 5 bitcoin and then scammed people, one person was scammed with 16 bitcoin. So, I wouldn't call that a good model.

I see, so basically i will be opening a website and not doing escrow on bitcointalk.
I will try to see how to secure the funds in case of a hack, so all users can be refunded.
Thanks for the advice.
The website is ready, i am just looking for a partner to build the infrastructure for it (DevOps/networking).
Suggestions are based on need, so what do you need exactly from an escrow service?

I wouldn't suggest anyone to use your service especially when you use the word "I" everywhere (that means you are doing alone) and you are also looking for partners this way. It makes me believe that in your idea you want to make a website that will generate profit automatically while you'll just draw design, code it and that's all. Business doesn't happen that way. Why to trust a person who doesn't know anything about the business he enters.

Apologies for using 'I', but that's true. I am working on it alone so far but i got everything done.
That is not a drawn design, it is coded and ready for production already.
You can notice the Django toolbar, which is for testing purposes.




~images~

The images you've attached are too big in resolution size, that's why the forum cannot preview it. Better compress or just upload it with a lesser resolution as having it shown is already enough proof that you are in the development stage of your platform. Furthermore, I have seen that you said in your landing page that you are the "Most secure and trusted service", which I somehow disagree as you were just starting. Better erase the word "most" as it attracts more with your honesty.



I may also add 2FA for releasing the escrow, although it is user-less, but i will find a solution for that.

2FA that would require on client side?? I guess you must better disclose first your identity before making them do it. As I was saying, it is better to have initiative in being kind and transparent to your possible clients. Would they send you their identity if you can't show yours?

Will do that.
As for revealing my identity, will do that when i register the company at least, i am so far focusing on the development and deployment of the platform.



Bitmixcoin.io did the same thing on this forum. They put 5 bitcoin into escrow with our user - zazarb. Once they gained some trust, they redeemed their escrowed 5 bitcoin and then scammed people, one person was scammed with 16 bitcoin. So, I wouldn't call that a good model.

I don't think the OP is bright enough to copy a scam.  He claims his site will not require registration, and he claims he will figure out dispute resolution with no registration.

This is not a pre-planned scam using a known method like a ponzi.  This is just an idiot who doesn't understand how other idiots scam. 

FYI, there is no registration on the website so far, and i am working on bringing more security to it.
And everyone can open a dispute without the need to register, just with their transaction UUID.
Not willing to scam or take anyone's crypto, and my identity will be revealed soon.




I must correct you on that, but a user-less platform means that it does not require any registration, so opening transactions is just straightforward.
I haven't seen the phrase "user-less" used before. It sounds like a platform without users. You could just say it doesn't require registration if that's what it means.

Many developers use the phrase user-less for a website that doesn't require registration, but i will stick with no registration required from now on if that satisfies you.

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legendary
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February 12, 2021, 03:15:49 PM
#25
~images~

The images you've attached are too big in resolution size, that's why the forum cannot preview it. Better compress or just upload it with a lesser resolution as having it shown is already enough proof that you are in the development stage of your platform. Furthermore, I have seen that you said in your landing page that you are the "Most secure and trusted service", which I somehow disagree as you were just starting. Better erase the word "most" as it attracts more with your honesty.



I may also add 2FA for releasing the escrow, although it is user-less, but i will find a solution for that.

2FA that would require on client side?? I guess you must better disclose first your identity before making them do it. As I was saying, it is better to have initiative in being kind and transparent to your possible clients. Would they send you their identity if you can't show yours?
Vod
legendary
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February 12, 2021, 02:27:24 PM
#24
Bitmixcoin.io did the same thing on this forum. They put 5 bitcoin into escrow with our user - zazarb. Once they gained some trust, they redeemed their escrowed 5 bitcoin and then scammed people, one person was scammed with 16 bitcoin. So, I wouldn't call that a good model.

I don't think the OP is bright enough to copy a scam.  He claims his site will not require registration, and he claims he will figure out dispute resolution with no registration.

This is not a pre-planned scam using a known method like a ponzi.  This is just an idiot who doesn't understand how other idiots scam. 
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February 12, 2021, 02:22:36 PM
#23
Do you want to make bitcointalk escrow service or public bitcoin service?
if your site service for the forum it is easy, you need to deposit some Bitcoins for trusted member(s), and then centrally manage the site.
If any problem occurs, the member can open a report in scam board and the trusted member(s) will release extra escrow amount.
It will make the fees less and the process automatic.
Bitmixcoin.io did the same thing on this forum. They put 5 bitcoin into escrow with our user - zazarb. Once they gained some trust, they redeemed their escrowed 5 bitcoin and then scammed people, one person was scammed with 16 bitcoin. So, I wouldn't call that a good model.

I see, so basically i will be opening a website and not doing escrow on bitcointalk.
I will try to see how to secure the funds in case of a hack, so all users can be refunded.
Thanks for the advice.
The website is ready, i am just looking for a partner to build the infrastructure for it (DevOps/networking).
Suggestions are based on need, so what do you need exactly from an escrow service?

I wouldn't suggest anyone to use your service especially when you use the word "I" everywhere (that means you are doing alone) and you are also looking for partners this way. It makes me believe that in your idea you want to make a website that will generate profit automatically while you'll just draw design, code it and that's all. Business doesn't happen that way. Why to trust a person who doesn't know anything about the business he enters.
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February 12, 2021, 11:46:23 AM
#22
I must correct you on that, but a user-less platform means that it does not require any registration, so opening transactions is just straightforward.
I haven't seen the phrase "user-less" used before. It sounds like a platform without users. You could just say it doesn't require registration if that's what it means.
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February 12, 2021, 08:34:44 AM
#21

The website is ready, i am just looking for a partner to build the infrastructure for it (DevOps/networking).
Suggestions are based on need, so what do you need exactly from an escrow service?


Any screenshots of the draft of your platform? Since you're saying that it is all ready, there's no other reasons to not at least showcase us with what would people expect on your platform. Also, showing it would even create up more fruitful suggestions which would help your business.

And with regards to escrow services, it is really preferable to let people know who you are and/or any background and proof of legitimacy of your business. Escrow servicing - that accepts fiat and physical escrow services, must establish a good reputation first. Start on little price, little services, instead of jumping on making website and insisting people to trust your starting services.

Quick security suggestions: you can secure money by providing unique crypto addresses for each transaction you made rather than holding it on a single address. You can also use multiple ledger wallets, which you must invest, to provide a better security towards the money you hold.


Good point, here are some screenshots of the platform, i only have so far the deployment to be done.
At the moment i am offering different address on each transaction, for the ledger, i will be implementing the ability for users to choose whether they want their funds to be stored in Hardware wallets or not, since i need their consent.
I may also add 2FA for releasing the escrow, although it is user-less, but i will find a solution for that.




legendary
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February 11, 2021, 10:14:18 AM
#20

The website is ready, i am just looking for a partner to build the infrastructure for it (DevOps/networking).
Suggestions are based on need, so what do you need exactly from an escrow service?


Any screenshots of the draft of your platform? Since you're saying that it is all ready, there's no other reasons to not at least showcase us with what would people expect on your platform. Also, showing it would even create up more fruitful suggestions which would help your business.

And with regards to escrow services, it is really preferable to let people know who you are and/or any background and proof of legitimacy of your business. Escrow servicing - that accepts fiat and physical escrow services, must establish a good reputation first. Start on little price, little services, instead of jumping on making website and insisting people to trust your starting services.

Quick security suggestions: you can secure money by providing unique crypto addresses for each transaction you made rather than holding it on a single address. You can also use multiple ledger wallets, which you must invest, to provide a better security towards the money you hold.
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February 11, 2021, 07:43:07 AM
#19
Something's really not clear here.
You're saying you made "a user-less straight forward escrow platform" but you have nothing to show, except a few registered domains, and you're looking for a partner(s) to take on the development? Development of what exactly? And what suggestions do you seek if you don't want to show even what you currently have?

And, why are you using unicode characters in your signature?


The website is ready, i am just looking for a partner to build the infrastructure for it (DevOps/networking).
Suggestions are based on need, so what do you need exactly from an escrow service?
copper member
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February 11, 2021, 07:41:28 AM
#18
Do you want to make bitcointalk escrow service or public bitcoin service?
if your site service for the forum it is easy, you need to deposit some Bitcoins for trusted member(s), and then centrally manage the site.
If any problem occurs, the member can open a report in scam board and the trusted member(s) will release extra escrow amount.
It will make the fees less and the process automatic.


I see, so basically i will be opening a website and not doing escrow on bitcointalk.
I will try to see how to secure the funds in case of a hack, so all users can be refunded.
Thanks for the advice.
legendary
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February 10, 2021, 04:07:07 PM
#17
As I understand, you're making escrow service outside Bitcointalk. Personally, I prefer escrow services offered by Bitcointalk members. But there issue when dealing with people not familiar with Bitcointalk, they tend not to trust in these escrow providers.
If you're looking for suggestions, I won't say anything new for you. First, you need to build your reputation first that people would start to trust in your service. And you have to prove that customer funds is well-secured on your service.
legendary
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February 09, 2021, 05:56:18 PM
#16
Something's really not clear here.
You're saying you made "a user-less straight forward escrow platform" but you have nothing to show, except a few registered domains, and you're looking for a partner(s) to take on the development? Development of what exactly? And what suggestions do you seek if you don't want to show even what you currently have?

And, why are you using unicode characters in your signature?
hero member
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February 07, 2021, 02:51:08 PM
#15
~snip
Aside from privacy they will also look for your reliability in which you need to separate your service from the traditional ones. Now for you about gaining trust I think the quickest way to convince someone on using your service is through you showing that you are a legally operating escrow service with the proper identifications, showing the identity of the main team in your website, and giving as much information as you can like company address, telephone number and other things that will show that you are a real company.

Indeed, i got most that covered, i am just in need for a partner(s) (not financially)  to take on the development (DevOps and server administration).
For the company, i am thinking of incorporating it in Malta, but will review my choices.

Incorporating it on a crypto-friendly nation would definitely a good route to go into but I think I need to remind you that if you go this route some potential markets for your business/service might not be allowed in some country. For example US Citizens aren't allowed to use your website if your business is not properly registered in US, this is what happened to Binance that is why they have to pull out and re-enter back in the US last year. Other countries might have the same domestic law as the US and you need block their IP addresses as it would be illegal in your part if you allowed their citizens to use your service. For having partners I think the best way to go is to just incorporate your company first and then look for investors/partners after since it is the same principle as you having customers they won't just catch your train without any kind evidence that you are legally running.
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February 07, 2021, 04:20:44 AM
#14
I am working on implementing 2-3 multi-sig, but trying to find a way to make it easier for buyers and sellers to use it.

So you have not "built a user-less straight forward escrow platform".  And you cannot build it.   

I did build it, just trying to find a way to add 2-3 multi-sig as NeuroticFish said that's all.
Vod
legendary
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February 06, 2021, 06:13:55 PM
#13
I am working on implementing 2-3 multi-sig, but trying to find a way to make it easier for buyers and sellers to use it.

So you have not "built a user-less straight forward escrow platform".  And you cannot build it.   
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February 06, 2021, 06:02:14 PM
#12
but i have built a user-less straight forward escrow platform. Once deployed, i will work on building trust.

You have not, and your continued bullshit is untrustworthy.

I am not sure what bull**** i am doing, all i am asking for is suggestions to take in place before deploying the platform.


Then please look at what I quoted.  If you have built an escrow platform that doesn't rely on users, let's see it.

I must correct you on that, but a user-less platform means that it does not require any registration, so opening transactions is just straightforward.
I am working on implementing 2-3 multi-sig, but trying to find a way to make it easier for buyers and sellers to use it.
Vod
legendary
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February 06, 2021, 05:51:14 PM
#11
but i have built a user-less straight forward escrow platform. Once deployed, i will work on building trust.

You have not, and your continued bullshit is untrustworthy.

I am not sure what bull**** i am doing, all i am asking for is suggestions to take in place before deploying the platform.


Then please look at what I quoted.  If you have built an escrow platform that doesn't rely on users, let's see it.
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February 06, 2021, 05:48:27 PM
#10
but i have built a user-less straight forward escrow platform. Once deployed, i will work on building trust.

You have not, and your continued bullshit is untrustworthy.

I am not sure what bull**** i am doing, all i am asking for is suggestions to take in place before deploying the platform.
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February 06, 2021, 05:47:10 PM
#9
People who would likely want an alternative are people who are looking for a fast, automated, and reliable way of escrow service which fortunately for your is the crypto industry is currently lacking. So IMO people who will be looking for an automated way of escrow service is also looking for anonymity/privacy in which they will most likely expect you not demanding any kind of KYC process under you which is one of tricky parts since for legal and regulation requirements you might need to do. Aside from privacy they will also look for your reliability in which you need to separate your service from the traditional ones. Now for you about gaining trust I think the quickest way to convince someone on using your service is through you showing that you are a legally operating escrow service with the proper identifications, showing the identity of the main team in your website, and giving as much information as you can like company address, telephone number and other things that will show that you are a real company.

Indeed, i got most that covered, i am just in need for a partner(s) (not financially)  to take on the development (DevOps and server administration).
For the company, i am thinking of incorporating it in Malta, but will review my choices.
hero member
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February 06, 2021, 03:09:49 PM
#8
People who would likely want an alternative are people who are looking for a fast, automated, and reliable way of escrow service which fortunately for your is the crypto industry is currently lacking. So IMO people who will be looking for an automated way of escrow service is also looking for anonymity/privacy in which they will most likely expect you not demanding any kind of KYC process under you which is one of tricky parts since for legal and regulation requirements you might need to do. Aside from privacy they will also look for your reliability in which you need to separate your service from the traditional ones. Now for you about gaining trust I think the quickest way to convince someone on using your service is through you showing that you are a legally operating escrow service with the proper identifications, showing the identity of the main team in your website, and giving as much information as you can like company address, telephone number and other things that will show that you are a real company.
Vod
legendary
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February 06, 2021, 12:45:58 PM
#7
but i have built a user-less straight forward escrow platform. Once deployed, i will work on building trust.

You have not, and your continued bullshit is untrustworthy.
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