Suggestions to improve the forum and limit shitposting - the easy way

shield132

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Can't just these merit threads end forever?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dannyhamilton-60820 <--- such an amazing user, newbie or legendary, mustn't be limited in posts and what a silly idea, nothing can prevent shitposting and creating of shit threads, call it"shit threading".
Will others post shit? Just ignore them or report their posts, that's very easy

krishnaverma

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Quote from: Bershie on May 28, 2018, 10:38:55 AM

This forum was made for information not advertising platform so if you want to remove shitpost, altcoins should be remove from here and fucos on bitcoin the way it should be when its first implemented.

Spammers and shitposers came to the forum already and that's why merit system has been introduced and implemented then why highranks still hated new members there are already restrictions. I think theymos must restart the system and all members come back to newbie, that well improve the system and shitposting well be gone.

I'm sick of it, since i got in here all they blame is new members but there not the only one who's doing it, also highrank members.

Satoshi Nakamoto created BTT with freedom on conversation not restrictions.

Any forum needs advertisement for survival. There are a lot of expenses to look after like the hosting expenses.

Also, those signature campaigns and bounties are one the reasons why this forum is so much popular and so many new members join it. Also, new projects will any way do airdrops now whether it exists on this forum or they have to do it somewhere else.

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Why the brand new users are only limited to make one post a day? Just because he is brand new does not mean he does not have a good knowledge about the cryptocurrency. That means he can be beneficial for this forum to spread his knowledge. I do not support your idea. Perhaps 10 posts per day is sufficient. The only thing that can be done is to delete those kind of threads and shitposts. If I were a mod, I would have had done that.

Bershie

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This forum was made for information not advertising platform so if you want to remove shitpost, altcoins should be remove from here and fucos on bitcoin the way it should be when its first implemented.

Spammers and shitposers came to the forum already and that's why merit system has been introduced and implemented then why highranks still hated new members there are already restrictions. I think theymos must restart the system and all members come back to newbie, that well improve the system and shitposting well be gone.

I'm sick of it, since i got in here all they blame is new members but there not the only one who's doing it, also highrank members.

Satoshi Nakamoto created BTT with freedom on conversation not restrictions.

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Quote from: tuankent55555 on May 28, 2018, 05:39:54 AM

I believe that restricting new accounts to signature-less posting on starter boards, and only allowing them to post on the main boards once they had been awarded 5 merits ( say ) would be the simplest solution.

Bravo man! You're such a smart guy!

Quote from: Jet Cash on April 24, 2018, 03:59:44 AM

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I believe that restricting new accounts to signature-less posting on starter boards, and only allowing them to post on the main boards once they had been awarded 5 merits ( say ) would be the simplest solution.

tuankent55555

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I believe that restricting new accounts to signature-less posting on starter boards, and only allowing them to post on the main boards once they had been awarded 5 merits ( say ) would be the simplest solution.

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Quote from: Emilyearl on April 25, 2018, 10:35:38 PM

Some of those low ranked members contribute meaningfully to the forum. And the thing about smart is that it's very hard for people to just gift it out due to its scarce nature and when you look at it critically, you will agree with me that it doesn't mean those without any additional merit to their default merit count hasn't made any reasonable post since the inception of the merit saga. I think the system should find another way out and make the forum better.

The other way is kick out the monetary aspect from the forum, not just the signatures campaign as it is just a small part in the problem. Unless there is a way to change people and make them become decent human being.

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Some of those low ranked members contribute meaningfully to the forum. And the thing about smart is that it's very hard for people to just gift it out due to its scarce nature and when you look at it critically, you will agree with me that it doesn't mean those without any additional merit to their default merit count hasn't made any reasonable post since the inception of the merit saga. I think the system should find another way out and make the forum better.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on April 24, 2018, 03:59:44 AM

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I believe that restricting new accounts to signature-less posting on starter boards, and only allowing them to post on the main boards once they had been awarded 5 merits ( say ) would be the simplest solution.

How about an ICO team putting up an account dedicated only for a project? I think this will not be applicable for it unless they will give it a merit for posting purpose only. The issues will still be the same IMO.

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Quote from: Craigjohnstone on April 24, 2018, 03:56:15 PM

Is there anyway the forum can verify an account? Such as linking to Facebook - telegram? This would make shit posters life a lot harder.

In my opinion, that should be grounds for rejecting the application. Many of the spammers seem to use Bitcoin Talk to promote their social media accounts.

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Quote from: Craigjohnstone on April 24, 2018, 03:56:15 PM

Is there anyway the forum can verify an account? Such as linking to Facebook - telegram? This would make shit posters life a lot harder.

Well it's possible but it's not going to happen. All it is is one more hoop to jump through and you can be sure those with money on the line will do all that it takes to be able to make it through. It costs absolutely nothing to create a Facebook or Telegram account so all it is is a minor inconvenience to them whilst you potentially risk putting off genuine users who just wanted to come here to get some answers or talk about bitcoin.

change7

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I think what would work most is this.
Once an account keeps being used for shit posting or fraudulent activities, such account should be tagged and warned and if such act persists, such account should be banned. If this measure is followed, I know most persons with the fear of being banned will work on their post quality.
Limiting number of posts account can make in a day doesn't stop shit posting as someone might use up their post slot for the day solely just for shit posting.

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Quote from: Craigjohnstone on April 24, 2018, 03:56:15 PM

Is there anyway the forum can verify an account? Such as linking to Facebook - telegram? This would make shit posters life a lot harder.

No.

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Quote from: HeRetiK on April 24, 2018, 03:29:34 PM

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That's the thing though. Most of the questions that get asked over and over again are already covered in stickies -- or countless other threads on the same topic. So if something like a newbie jail actually encourages people to use the search function or google first, that's a plus in my book.

This is my opinion also, you can check this post:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35112842
Using google if something is needed is not a big deal, but it doesn't increase the post count, so it's an evil thing

Quote from: Jet Cash on April 24, 2018, 03:59:44 AM

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I believe that restricting new accounts to signature-less posting on starter boards, and only allowing them to post on the main boards once they had been awarded 5 merits ( say ) would be the simplest solution.

+1 for this. Taking part in signature/bounty campaigns should not be a right but a merit...
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Craigjohnstone

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Is there anyway the forum can verify an account? Such as linking to Facebook - telegram? This would make shit posters life a lot harder.

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Quote from: STT on April 24, 2018, 01:13:05 PM

Quote from: HeRetiK on April 24, 2018, 05:36:46 AM

For an interested newbie crypto can be already intimidating enough, pre-emptively shutting them out completely would make matters only worse. After all we also want the community to grow.

I remember when I started out in 2013 newbies where only restricted to certain sections -- is this still the case? It seemed to work rather well back then.

Yea I remember that, the idea being to read more then you speak since you are new. I guess thats a fair bias, we have 2 ears and only one mouth for a reason Tongue

I also found it a bit frustrating that we had to just 'do your time' when reading the forum, we couldn't post everywhere. So if I had a specific question I would just google it instead quite often, so long as there is readable FAQ thats ok. [...]

That's the thing though. Most of the questions that get asked over and over again are already covered in stickies -- or countless other threads on the same topic. So if something like a newbie jail actually encourages people to use the search function or google first, that's a plus in my book.

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Important thing is to act on something, offcourse compromises are needed but really doesn't make any sense newbies account being able to open threads under certain sections.

STT

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Used to be the newbie was just part of the beginners section and we could post there mostly.

Quote from: HeRetiK on April 24, 2018, 05:36:46 AM

For an interested newbie crypto can be already intimidating enough, pre-emptively shutting them out completely would make matters only worse. After all we also want the community to grow.

I remember when I started out in 2013 newbies where only restricted to certain sections -- is this still the case? It seemed to work rather well back then.

Yea I remember that, the idea being to read more then you speak since you are new. I guess thats a fair bias, we have 2 ears and only one mouth for a reason Tongue

I also found it a bit frustrating that we had to just 'do your time' when reading the forum, we couldn't post everywhere. So if I had a specific question I would just google it instead quite often, so long as there is readable FAQ thats ok. Or back then alot of people were in a mining pool and so I could ask my fellow miners alot of stuff because it was such a low level thing back then not just big farms.

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The seconth suggestion is to limit the number of posts anybody can make in a day based on your rank, something on the line of this:

Brand New: 1 a day
Jr Member: 2 a day
Member: 4 a day

Posting is naturally sporadic I think so this seems a bit harsh for the entire forum. If it was a restriction on certain areas and the mods requested that then it makes more sense. I feel like the ALT sections struggle with alot sometimes. Im not exactly sure which areas see the most traffic but it should probably in tune with that not so much a blanket restriction.

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The idea of a newbie being limited to creating a brand new thread can work to an extent, because most of the questions they probably want to ask, have already been asked before, so they can use the search feature to try and locate them. However, limiting the amount of posts per day for each level could not be favorable, in the sense that if there is a potential for an engaging conversation (back-and-forth ) to take place it wouldn't happen. And these sort of conversations can happen in different threads.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on April 24, 2018, 06:57:16 AM

Yeah, I don't think we should restrict them 100% from being able to create threads anywhere but I wouldn't be against some sort of Newbie Jail coming back where maybe they can only create a thread in Beginners and Help and Meta at first or something. It's getting too much with thousands of people flocking here that are have no idea at all about bitcoin but are just here to earn by posting and it just leads to utterly mind-numbing crap being posted day after day: "what is bitcoin for you" "how did you hear about bitcoin/bitcointalk" "why is the price going up/down" "should I mine or trade?" etc etc every day and it just gets worse as time goes on. Just look at the mess that is in Off Topic and Politics because those two subs are the go-to boards for people who don't know about anything else. I don't think those two boards should be accessible to lower ranks because why would someone even come here just to discuss Politics in the first place?

I am also in favour of Newbie jail idea. Restrict them only on few boards like you mentioned: Meta (since it's the place where anyone can ask stuffs about the forum) section.

What I understand visiting the Beginners and Help section is: It's about mostly bitcoin support i guess. (I might be wrong since I only thoroughly scanned it)

Whatever the board or boards they will be restricted the mod of those boards should be focusing on encouraging the members to read at least the first 6 sticky on the meta board.

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