Topic: Sumcoin - page 3. (Read 7035 times)

30 October 2020
03:32
insertrandom name
hey, i doesnt use telegram before. great to read through the chat history, .. so lets try it again with an conversation ..
03:34
regards Tillkoeln 😉 .
and man. talking on your discord and say that your wife works for gov... and she`s a prison guard.. ok .. yeah she works for gov .
but lets ignore such things.

some real talk.
you forked it again , same game you did a year before. i dont get it
03:37
we can keep playing that game until last day on earth. its ok for me.
i just asked for an apologize initialy .
i can understand that you have a lot preasure, but your reaction isnt reasonable.
03:37
lets try to comunicate if you want
03:37
😊
03:37
ay animated smily
03:38
Sumtoshi
Praying for you. You’re a troubled person
03:38
insertrandom name
i am fine with my creator
03:39
why had you never contact me for an delisting ?
03:39
i mean from person to person ?
03:39
that person from your bitcointalk thread had made the request and paid for it.
i see in your screenshots that he did that before allright.
03:41
and congratulation to the listing on stex 😊
03:42
but like you said, the atm support and availability > exchanges
03:44
allright, when you feels like need a talk. you know where you find me.
03:44
Sumtoshi
Listen. I literally just flew 400 miles to meet with friends to pray for you. No one has every asked you for anything. In fact I think the whole team has asked you to simply go away but you persist. You made threats against my wife and child posting my address. And for what?

Let that sink in.. I spent THE DAY flying 400 miles away - to go pray for you
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03:46
insertrandom name
i asked you for an "justified" apologize ... i mean, an simple message from you " please delist my coin" would havent been unanswered
03:46
Sumtoshi
The entire day. Because I’m seriously concerned for you. Your behavior is ... well how do you explain it really. You’ve got some problems going on. You have me seriously confused
03:47
insertrandom name
man .. i had listed your coin .. ok .
03:47
then had some wanker made a double spend attack ..
and then i get called from the half sumcoin world as scammer
03:47
how would you react ?
03:47
Sumtoshi
In reply to this message
Listen to what you’re saying here. An apology for what? You’ve been nothing but a trouble maker
03:47
insertrandom name
seriously
03:48
Sumtoshi
I was shown texts where you bragged being responsible for a hashing attack
03:48
insertrandom name
ahh man , you are long enough in that business..
03:48
Sumtoshi
It’s your name on discord dude
03:49
insertrandom name
sry let me translate that, to get the meaning
03:49
Sumtoshi
People deemed you unsafe and you weren’t giving me any reason not to believe them. None of the devs feel comfortable with you
03:50
insertrandom name
ahhh "bragged" but logical .. would i had an reason to do that ? .. i mean i talk about that chinese guys who made that attack on sato,erex, and me
03:50
its the same group i dealed before , or atleast i think this are the same persons
03:50
they made same game on mincoin
03:50
a year before
03:51
Sumtoshi
Well.. we actually care about the users around the world. Devs took measures. I’m focused on my wife and new baby
03:52
insertrandom name
it took me a half year and watching the blockchain , and finaly i detected an ingoing depost from that addresses. ..
03:52
Sumtoshi
My flight is about to take off
03:52
In reply to this message
Depost?
03:53
insertrandom name
same group behind that 600k sumcoin theft , made an double spend attack on an different coin a year ago
03:53
they tried to deposit months later the coins 😊 haha , that fools,
03:53
so .. however, lets hope that the stolen coins comes back into system and someone see it
03:54
but yeah, wish you an good flight and all the best.
03:54
Sumtoshi
I couldn’t find any evidence of a double spend attack when sato said it. They simply stole peoples coins from what everyone could tell
03:54
insertrandom name
would you believe it to me when i say that its a fact ?
03:55
Sumtoshi
I like blockchain logs
03:55
insertrandom name
i am long enough in that business . ..
03:55
sure, if you like.
03:55
we never talk like normal persons.
lets try it 😉
03:55
Sumtoshi
What time is it where you are. Flight is an hour
03:55
You were too busy calling me a child molester
03:55
insertrandom name
bad stalking skills if you dont know it
03:56
Sumtoshi
Already located you too
03:56
insertrandom name
when i had that action with your guys. i got contacted by many people who gives details about you. even without asking them
03:57
honestly .. many people seems to hate you...
but that is not my war.

i got that link to that idaho thing from an user,
i was on a good way to stalk you. but i dont think that i ever had find that
03:57
Sumtoshi
Naw man. You spent some time trying to dig. Then you totally tried to slander me falsely
03:58
insertrandom name
it was personaly yes. i said that to you on our first conversation
03:58
Sumtoshi
I know where you got it from too. I’m not stupid
03:58
People don’t hate me. I’ve done nothing to cause them to
03:59
insertrandom name
i had found some ip`s in that walmart in your town before i got that link.
03:59
that was my progress at that moment.
03:59
Sumtoshi
Yeah I saw. Your not using powers for good man
04:00
But then you said you were too busy stalking me. You really should pull all that stuff down.
04:00
insertrandom name
and you doesnt contact someone " calmed down"
04:00
Sumtoshi
In reply to this message
Sorry I don’t understand
04:01
insertrandom name
i mean .. hey .. ok lots of shit happend... but you never. .. never contact me and asked for anything regarding sumcoin
04:01
i mean . past cant be changed. ..
04:01
but trust me, an delisting on request was not so unrealistic
04:01
Sumtoshi
You’re right. Devs or me never never asked you for anything. So why are you doing what you’re doing?
04:02
insertrandom name
.. before that all started
04:02
Sumtoshi
That’s not any sort of excuse for that kind of behavior man. You’re making threats because no one ever asked you for anything? Then you want an apology?
04:03
insertrandom name
personal, i get triggered by that attacks from that guy who made the meme`s initialy
04:03
or that other people from your team
04:03
that was the reason for my reacton.
04:03
Sumtoshi
Ok. Ok. Well I have feelings too so I get it. But what did I do to you
04:03
insertrandom name
man .. you are sumcoin
04:04
any shot which cames in my direction ... who is guilty ? .. yep you
04:04
Sumtoshi
I’m the creator of it yeah. I’m not the coin
04:04
insertrandom name
yeah .. but you are close to that people .
04:04
so it was more reasonable that its a planned coup . and
04:04
ehmm plan , planned ? plane ?
04:04
Sumtoshi
Plane is taking off. Talk in an hour
04:05
insertrandom name
ntended
04:05
that was the word
04:05
Sumtoshi
I’ll write when I land
04:05
insertrandom name
yeah ^^
04:05
good luck
04:05
Sumtoshi
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Will lose reception
04:06
insertrandom name
like i said. good luck 😊 there is just an % chance to fall .. or not fall
04:06
Sumtoshi
The plane?
04:06
insertrandom name
with the plane
04:06
haha yeah,
04:06
Sumtoshi
Yeah let’s wait on jokes like that
04:07
Plus it’s fluid dynamics
04:07
insertrandom name
a pleasure to talk to you few lines like regular people.
06:02
Sumtoshi
I just got home. I’d appreciate talking tomorrow and a willingness on your part to remove the posts you have
06:03
My wife doesn’t need the drama man. Not cool
06:03
insertrandom name
yeah i asked an native english speaker from my team to make sure that i doesnt miss any fine shade
06:03
from your english language ^^
06:04
just to make sure that there is no shooting caused my misunderstanding
06:06
Sumtoshi
I’m not entirely sure what you said there but my friend speaks German. He taught English there. Maybe you and he can discuss in your native language.
06:06
insertrandom name
ahh no, all fine. its about the spelling " i pray for you"
06:06
Sumtoshi
I’ve been awake for nearly 24 hours now
06:06
insertrandom name
3 days here
06:07
Sumtoshi
Pray. Christianity
06:07
Pray to god. Jesus
06:07
insertrandom name
yeah, but can have different meaning
06:07
Sumtoshi
Pray. Like say to God “help this person”
06:08
Go sleep. We can talk tomorrow
06:08
insertrandom name
hakuna-matata
06:08
Sumtoshi
But I’d appreciate you removing the tweets
06:08
Lion king movie
06:09
insertrandom name
no older spelling
06:09
but yes
06:09
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakuna_matata
06:09
Sumtoshi
Yes like the Disney cartoon
06:10
They use that phrase
13:18
insertrandom name
so, may i ask how you plan to keep the sourcecode hidden ?
13:21
i mean , that with the electrum and slice wallets was a nice move,
13:23
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13:30
insertrandom name
unsure if you "just " tried to scare the users with that info but there funds arent lost on my exchange

basily good news. or ?
14:11
insertrandom name
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i have edit some posts on bitcointalk and Removed some less on Twitter,
19:51
insertrandom name
and omg. i never used telegram, what a freakshow and toxic place
21:46
Sumtoshi
Sorry having a newborn is time consuming. I haven’t read what you wrote yet but I’ll try here in a little bit
22:23
Sumtoshi
https://twitter.com/TillKoeln/status/1321387433771094019
22:33
insertrandom name
reload the page
22:47
i found the genesis ==>
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then my attempt to answer .
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22:55
Sumtoshi
Ok. What is a reasonable path forward for each of us
22:56
insertrandom name
that you read that.
22:57
there is no cut on the comunication , if you find an different version from that Comunication feel free to proof me wrong
22:57
that is pure 1 to 1 how it start.
22:58
Sumtoshi
Ok so what I hear you saying is you’re willing to remove your tweets and ask others do the same
22:58
insertrandom name
i havent the feeling that you read this
22:58
you dont need to delete them
22:58
Sumtoshi
I’ve read them
22:59
insertrandom name
but i think that you doesnt see the unbalanced comunication
23:00
can you understand that it is maybe possible .. that i feel a bit pissed in that situation ?
23:00
Sumtoshi
People aren’t very happy with your behavior so they said so.

If you’re willing to remove your tweets I think I can get others to remove theirs also
23:00
Everyone is pissed man
23:00
insertrandom name
no need to delete them
23:00
thats not my intention
23:01
Sumtoshi
It seems to all be about the index rate and non balanced approach you’ve taken. The bashing etc
23:01
insertrandom name
do you understand that i feel unfair threated in that moment ?
23:01
Sumtoshi
Do you understand that people feel you’re treating the project unfairly?
23:01
insertrandom name
i doesnt had know you,
i doesnt had know sumcoin
i doesnt spend a moment to read bout sumcoin
i just asked stex to add my data
23:01
i even doesnt know that you had let them delete them
23:02
ahh stex ^^
23:02
Sumtoshi
Sumcoin is priced by algorithm though. Your data is wrong
23:02
insertrandom name
lol
23:02
coingecko
23:02
how could my data wrong. they displayed my trade history and the market deep + orderbook
23:03
Sumtoshi
The price is done by tracking the top 100 coins. It’s a “sum” value of those
23:03
insertrandom name
yes maybe .but again .. they traked my orderbook .. my trade history
23:03
Sumtoshi
The coin isn’t priced by supply / demand though. You’re missing the point
23:03
insertrandom name
yes but .. Coingecko tracked at that moment what ? what do they normaly ?
market data , orderbook , trade history
23:04
Sumtoshi
In reply to this message
That was wrong though. The coin is index based. If you had followed that, there would be no problem
23:04
insertrandom name
but i had not.
23:04
i doesnt know about it
23:04
Sumtoshi
It’s written everywhere though
23:04
People told you over and over also
23:04
insertrandom name
you can go the step and believe me that 2 lines above
23:05
NOT at that moment man ,
23:05
Sumtoshi
Ok. Well you know now right?
23:05
insertrandom name
yep
23:05
and now again, .. can you understand that i feel a bit pissed in that moment where our comunication starts ?
23:05
Sumtoshi
So I guess what matters then is what you’re willing to do to follow the index
23:06
insertrandom name
i can imagine you had a lot of headache in last days / weeks
23:06
Sumtoshi
If you really didn’t understand the index then yes I see why you would be mad but from what I saw, people told you many times
23:06
Sumcoin IS different.
23:07
insertrandom name
man. i want just you as person understand that it was not right how you talk to me .
and please .. anything else was later ..
23:07
these first 4 screenshots
23:07
above
23:07
Sumtoshi
If I’ve ever offended you please accept my apology
23:08
Offending people is not my goal at all
23:08
insertrandom name
do you think that you did that ? i mean ... your team is you
23:08
Sumtoshi
My team is me?
23:08
insertrandom name
when you read that above .. what do you think ..
23:09
was i offended ?
23:09
is that so unclear ?
23:09
Sumtoshi
I think you have a lot of people angry at you
23:10
All I can say is that if I personally said something offensive it was said in anger and that’s not who I want to be. So I’m sorry
23:10
insertrandom name
do you. as " ty " understand now that this first contact wasnt correct ?
23:10
Sumtoshi
I need to get back to my wife and baby. Wife needs my help with something
23:11
insertrandom name
i just want that you understand that you act wrong
23:11
Sumtoshi
In reply to this message
I see your points and appreciate you seeing mine also yes
23:12
insertrandom name
In reply to this message
from first minute , i just want you to say that .
23:12
Sumtoshi
I hope we can both learn how to do better from this
23:13
insertrandom name
what should i say.
never tr to fuck a fucker 😊
23:14
when we last time talk in your discord i was just asking for the same thing .. " that you see my point "
23:17
In reply to this message
.. this
23:18
👍
23:18
Sumtoshi
I found 2 tweets with you mentioned and deleted them. Let me know if I missed something
23:19
insertrandom name
allright. for me is it no longer some "personal" thing.
23:19
Sumtoshi
You posted about me about 100 times
23:19
insertrandom name
i was realy "personal" emotional pissed
23:20
Sumtoshi
You should not have felt that way but I see what you’ve explained
23:20
insertrandom name
thats why 100 posts and more
23:20
and i tried to tell you this on our first time too ^^
23:20
Sumtoshi
There’s no profit in posting like that though. It would only serve you badly
23:21
insertrandom name
i mean .. it seems that you realy talked about "to pray" .. later i got send some screenshot where you posted some bible quote.
23:22
allright .. great that you understand my situation in that moment , and you had let me explain that to you .
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and sorry .
23:23
i had a short moment concerns to post that with your idaho thing .
23:23
Sumtoshi
I forgive you and ask you forgive me also. Thank you for this
23:23
insertrandom name
i am not that complete asshole
23:23
Sumtoshi
In reply to this message
Please take down the tweets
23:24
insertrandom name
the "hardcore" tweets should be allright removed.
23:24
your last mentioned is allright deleted
23:25
Sumtoshi
I’ve never been accused of what you posted in those messages. I’m happy to discuss what happened in 2002 sometimes but currently a bit busy helping my wife
23:25
insertrandom name
no problem, i mean .. my goal was to complete bring you down.
23:26
take your time,
23:26
relax
23:26
between you and me is now all fine.
expect the business thing.
23:26
i have the first time the feeling that you talk honestly and your words are wise selected
23:29
that means much to me,

and about the business. we should see it sporty / as competition.
so 😊 tell me , how do you want keep that sourcecode hidden.

you know that i will find a way, i am sure that you just flipped
some digits on the timespan and retarget over x blocks.

..ok and reward.
23:29
lets take that as a game / challenge
23:29
without hate
23:30
if not the ATM thing force you to publish it again,
23:30
i mean .. each single atm owner is a single github user .
you would need to allow 6000 users to see your hidden repo
23:30
😊 one of them has a weak character lol
23:31
and yeah , take your time with wife and kid
23:31
Sumtoshi
That’s the thing man. I haven’t changed anything. I’m busy with my wife and daughter. I keep saying that. The devs made changes. Not me
23:31
insertrandom name
no need to answer directly
23:32
👍
23:32
Sumtoshi
I’ll write in a couple hours. Must go right now to doctors appointment
23:32
insertrandom name
sure 😊
23:32
and let us see that sourcecode thing as a game please
31 October 2020
00:20
Sumtoshi
The devs don’t want anything given to anyone who doesn’t follow the index rate. Don’t be offended but Your exchange isn’t tracked by anyone, has no volume and people say that they cannot withdraw after depositing to unnamed.

I think the goal is to build stex up and then get to a higher ranked exchange, then build that one and so on
00:49
insertrandom name
but 😊 it is 100% real volume.
if you have the time or sin.
check the liquidity information and compare it.

maybe others have 100x more volume.
but compared by that .. they just have 5% liquidity.
00:50
its ok man. ^^ i dont need to impress anyone with my exchange.
that is part of the strategy.
00:50
Sumtoshi
The index rate man
00:50
insertrandom name
me and adam have other goals , we dont need to fake anything to let it looks good 😊
00:50
Sumtoshi
The price is wrong
00:51
insertrandom name
dont be offended.
00:51
😊
00:51
Sumtoshi
Stex follows it and people trade it because they trust them
00:51
insertrandom name
and people can withdrawal .. and if they complain .. caused by your fork.
00:52
i have an bypass which let me withdrawal on your new chain
00:52
Sumtoshi
Idk how many times I can tell you this but “ I “ am not Sumcoin
00:52
insertrandom name
😉
00:52
yeah but just saying
00:52
Sumtoshi
Sumcoin is not “ my chain “
00:52
insertrandom name
as example 😊https://insight.sumcore.org/tx/0bd34edea69e7fbea62ef75129a4787fb4a55f5ea92c9a37b767348a92f72226
00:52
thats a user
00:53
withdrawal on new chain
00:53
😊
00:53
Sumtoshi
Ok.?
00:53
insertrandom name
for me , yes.
00:54
no person who trade on my exchange will have stucked sumcoin ^^
00:55
all good, great that you take care for your user
00:56
🖖
01:07
and hey 😊 you have to admit that unnamed isnt that ugly.
i mean adam has written allright cryptopia . ..
and unnamed is an improved version with many years experience
atleast .. you cant compare it with altmarkets .. stex .. satoexchange.
01:08
narf .. stex
01:08
altmarkets .. erex . sato
01:08
lol
01:08
remove that stex
01:08
i wish you an nice evening
01:08
and all the best
01:09
Sumtoshi
Idk who Adam is. I’ve never really spent time on unnamed either. All I know is it didn’t follow the index rate source
01:09
insertrandom name
yeah and this will not happend.
01:09
😊
01:09
Sumtoshi
Then please remove it
01:10
insertrandom name
adam was the one who write cryptopia long long ago. but thats history.
01:10
good that we sorted that "personal" thing between us
01:11
i wish you an nice evening, and all the best for the business.
01:17
and even when we will never became friends. but excuse me. its nothing personal .
but that index rate will not happend. and not an delisting. we can argue long time.
but in my world is the sourcecode you use under an open licence published.

so... i am sorry, but that you try to make it closed source is not ok.
and i dont agree with it. . people should have the right to sell for a price
which they decide. if someone wanna sell you an mercedes for an egg.
he can and should do it .

i guess that beyond that point our conversation ends.
but again. .. hakuna-matata 🖖
and it was nice to talk with you
01:18
Sumtoshi
Yesterday you said something completely different
02:38
insertrandom name
yep korrekt . yesterday i said ..

if you would have come to me and ask me like a normal person
02:38
thats complelty different, i agree.
02:39
so . who is the problem ?
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02:41
dont give me the feeling that you just agree and let me believe that you feel sorry
02:42
to playing nice and get me delisting it
02:45
if it is this what you tried to say.
02:47
you dont want that,
03:09
insertrandom name
all what i know,
your license on the slice wallet should everyone Respekt.
but the license from that Sourcecode you use , you give a shit on it.

and you know what i talk about. you cant make the bitcoin code, closed source
20:19
insertrandom name
so, afterall .
ou are still interested into the logs about the stolen sumcoin ?
i can tell you that erex had the same ip`s from the atackers like me
so its just plausible that sato had the same.
2 November 2020
00:16
insertrandom name
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america , the land of the free
00:16
👍
00:19
just let me find that one who is responsible about licenses on commercial use,
that one who write the licence things on your slice wallet could explain you the meaning from the licence on the bitcoin sourcecode 😊
00:19
again .. i just want free access to data which should be free.
00:19
not more or less
17:17
insertrandom name
hmm GeneralBytes has drop the support for Sumcoin.
17:17
you still hold on these "closed source" idea ?
17:55
insertrandom name
lol they told this to you allright ^^ and you still use these videos and pictures to promote sumcoin .
ouch .
17:55
next strike ^^
17:56
lol if you had say "sorry & apologize" on our first date ... it would happend all different i guess
3 November 2020
22:22
insertrandom name
whats up
22:23
who`s your favorit , trump or biden ?
4 November 2020
17:51
insertrandom name
so who is jesse buchholz ? ^^
20:36
insertrandom name
i think that Trump win.
even when its not the first choice for your country.
20:56
insertrandom name
whats up man
22:40
insertrandom name
weiered .. i was explain on your discord how user can move the fund from core client to the new chain .. and booom .. i got banned
22:40
i mean .. they dont need me , or you to do it .
22:40
no need to trust me.
23:06
insertrandom name
c`mon man
23:07
any ATM needs an daemon to run ..
23:07
what are you trying ?
23:29
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lol ^^
23:29
you hide the sourcecode which is illegal in your country on commercial use.
and report me to the fbi ?
23:29
what are you trying ?
23:30
i explain the users how they can move the coins from there core wallet to the slice wallet without problems
5 November 2020
02:24
insertrandom name
i like your video 😊