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Topic: Summary of Claymore's miner infringing on mrb's SILENTARMY miner MIT license (Read 4373 times)

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legendary
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Team Black developer
Claymore spent a few days and optimized the ($10000 studentminer) to become 500% faster. For his good work he is earning alot of cryptos...

member
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I think this topic was in almost 'nobody cares' state at creation time.
And after release of optiminer-zcash (one r9 390 gives 190H/s) it is totally 'nobody cares'.
full member
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it is some of his users, and no need to be rude to each other here
some of his users do act like cult followers, and many of them were bashing linux miners which code of which was in the very miner they were using - that is ignorance...

and his miner was released which cause an incredible increase in hashrate which did drop the price
no need to be ignorant about it.. blame or not, they are the reason the price has had such a steady drop... its just the way it is...

if the truth is annoying,... just don't listen to it

and i did/do like his eth miner, no need to lie about it
but at the same time no need to be ignorant of what happened with the ZCash miner

Price of ZEC goes down as supply of ZEC is increasing exponentially each and every block while demand obviously can't keep up. You are in denial of reality by claiming it is Claymore's fault. Claymore does not contribute to a higher supply.
Yes, it is you who is ignorant. Did you grow up in North Korea, to not understand the very basic fundamental of a market economy?

I hope he can continue to share part of the 2.5% fee as the fee is very large

It must indeed have been North Korea, since you are obviously interested a lot in OPM too. In other people's money!
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
The results where published 30-okt-2016


130 Sols with 6H/s?

Its fake, he messed up and won't admit it.
mrb
legendary
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mrb
Claymore copied a part of host code and round0 (blake2b) ? I think, only kernel rounds and solutions extract code is valueble, and it's not copied.

I agree, only kernel rounds and solutions extractions are valuable, and there was never any evidence this part of the code was copied. Which is why I keep telling people there is no need to make a fuss about this whole episode Smiley
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sp_
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
The results where published 30-okt-2016


full member
Activity: 243
Merit: 105
Quote
Results on the gtx 1070

Djm34: 134Sol/s (+446%)
What the..

Forget it. It's not exists.
newbie
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Quote
Results on the gtx 1070

Djm34: 134Sol/s (+446%)
What the..
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
Results on the 480:

Claymore : 80sol/s (+77%)
Silent army: 45sol/s

Results on the gtx 1070

Djm34: 134Sol/s (+446%)
Silent army: 30 sol/s

To beat a grandmaster, you don't need an army of dickheads, or the silent berkeleys.  Cool
newbie
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No, 5 ZEC for a little and inactual blake code just to save few minutes is very excellent reward!

There's no second place for miner developers. Everyone use the best miner, so if you're not the best (not Claymore right now), you can not expect his level of revenue or daily perfent of his dev fees
full member
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please , dont come back to zcash forums either , you personal vendetta against Claymore is more than annoying there too ... exchange personal emails , buy baseball bat or something , just keep your personal feelings ... ehm personal ?

This thread is not about me, so please stop trolling about me.

Dont tell people what to do or where to go, I am free to speak my own opinion

If you dont want to listen to it, don't... but dont come crying to me when you dont like it.,.. you dont have to act like a baby

cm made over hundred's of btc or more & counting just from the zec fees alone ...

how shameful of CM paying mrb ONLY 5 ZEC !

This is none of our business to be honest, the main thing is that credit is given... it was never about money... but it would be a nice guesture if he split the fee.

are you living in China?
legendary
Activity: 1500
Merit: 1002
Mine Mine Mine
cm made over hundred's of btc or more & counting just from the zec fees alone ...

how shameful of CM paying mrb ONLY 5 ZEC !
member
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Merit: 10
non-contribution

goodbye, I will learn where I want to learn, and that will include here.  I have browsed these forums for a long time, just have not posted very much..

but I was one of the first to download and test out claymores windows miners.. beat you to that one.. the ONLY REASON I CREATED AN ACCOUNT TO POST WAS TO THANK CLAYMORE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!

and on this forum you were the one that called yourself a cult follower... not me

please , dont come back to zcash forums either , you personal vendetta against Claymore is more than annoying there too ... exchange personal emails , buy baseball bat or something , just keep your personal feelings ... ehm personal ?
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 104
non-contribution

goodbye, I will learn where I want to learn, and that will include here.  I have browsed these forums for a long time, just have not posted very much..

but I was one of the first to download and test out claymores windows miners.. beat you to that one.. the ONLY REASON I CREATED AN ACCOUNT TO POST WAS TO THANK CLAYMORE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!

and on this forum you were the one that called yourself a cult follower... not me
sr. member
Activity: 429
Merit: 250
Cool math bro,

you make 2.5% more than the claymore followers. Maybe we like to support someone who donates to the community with a window's miner for us "lazy" folk.

dev fee is not a donaiton to the community - its not free... and marc is working on a free windows miner - really free
nicehash had an amd miner, did you pay them for their contribution?  if you care to support windows miners so much... what was wrong with paying htem while there was nothing else around?

do what you want man, im not here to argue  or fight with you.

i have no problem with you using claymores miner or using it myself it if pays off

at least you know you are lazy

and since your so lazy you can mine even easier if you download the torrent of EthOS... its GNU license and free to download from the pirate bay
Creating someone for me, and many others (aka cult followers according to you) to use so we can participate and ONLY paying a measly 2.5% for his hard work, its our way of saying thank you. Apparently, according to your correlation and math, there are many (aka "a lot of lazy window miners") who appreciate claymore's work to make the price "crash" as it did.

Please leave these forums. Your account is so fresh, leave your hate and discontent and non-contribution to the zcash forums.

Tango!
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 104
Cool math bro,

you make 2.5% more than the claymore followers. Maybe we like to support someone who donates to the community with a window's miner for us "lazy" folk.

dev fee is not a donaiton to the community - its not free... and marc is working on a free windows miner - really free
nicehash had an amd miner, did you pay them for their contribution?  if you care to support windows miners so much... what was wrong with paying htem while there was nothing else around?

do what you want man, im not here to argue  or fight with you.

i have no problem with you using claymores miner or using it myself it if pays off

at least you know you are lazy

and since your so lazy you can mine even easier if you download the torrent of EthOS... its GNU license and free to download from the pirate bay
sr. member
Activity: 429
Merit: 250
2.5% still leaves 97.5% for us greedy miners. I got no problem with that.

Every blockchain needs one 'miner' to run. 1 or 1000000 miners, coins generated daily stays more or less the same.

actually its 77.5 for you, 2.5 for claymore and 20 for funders..

Cool math bro,

you make 2.5% more than the claymore followers. Maybe we like to support someone who donates to the community with a window's miner for us "lazy" folk.
sr. member
Activity: 429
Merit: 250
I like how you say "his users" as if we are one entity, a cult, a following of claymore and now are guilty by association under your premise. Apparently, since I use his miner and have used his miners in the past, I am guilty as well.

it is some of his users, and no need to be rude to each other here
some of his users do act like cult followers, and many of them were bashing linux miners which code of which was in the very miner they were using - that is ignorance...

and his miner was released which cause an incredible increase in hashrate which did drop the price
no need to be ignorant about it.. blame or not, they are the reason the price has had such a steady drop... its just the way it is...

if the truth is annoying,... just don't listen to it

and i did/do like his eth miner, no need to lie about it
but at the same time no need to be ignorant of what happened with the ZCash miner

As you stated, "it is some of his users," not being rude but classifying everyone of his users as bashers was inappropriate

Also I am apparently "lazy," being rude is not my forte, but for you, it is.

I quote, "who cares about windows ... only people who are too lazy to install free stable and secure linux LOL... why do people want to use an OS with backdoors out the ying yang"

And with your argument about the hashrate dropping the price. Please learn the fundamentals of mining.

"hash rate is just the overall number of hash calculations performed per unit time, which is inferred from looking at how many blocks have been found over a given time window"

The market is affected by supply and demand. Currently, there is no demand because who the heck would hold at a price of 2-3 btc (even WAY higher initially) when they could sell. The same number of blocks are found but the difficulty goes up. In this case, when claymore was released, the "lazy window's miners" now could now mine at an equivalent hashrate, spreading the wealth of coin to more dumpers. Now instead of few dumping, everyone is dumping coin. So yes, you could correlate the dump to claymore's miner but that isn't ignorance if someone were to argue the technicalities of the situation. The dump happened because the same amount coins were mined, but more individuals were earning them, so the dump was happening in a quicker (though smaller, consistent interval).

My point being, stop blaming claymore's miner as the reason, because the coins were getting dumped by everyone (including you, as you mentioned many times...so not sure your argument), his miner just increased the amount of dumpers, not coins. Honestly, the ignorance is the fact you're butt hurt about not making a bunch of money because linux miners had a hold on consistent profits prior to claymore's miner. To argue otherwise is ignorance. (searching your name on zcash forums brings up the same post on multiple discussions with the same graphs correlating claymore's miner to zec crash...... even some users pointed to the troll fest of posts).
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 104
2.5% still leaves 97.5% for us greedy miners. I got no problem with that.

Every blockchain needs one 'miner' to run. 1 or 1000000 miners, coins generated daily stays more or less the same.

actually its 77.5 for you, 2.5 for claymore and 20 for funders..
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