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sr. member
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August 15, 2012, 11:51:54 PM
#21
While I agree stability is ultimately desirable, I believe the price needs to go up significantly for the market to sustain certain kinds of activity (e.g. settlement between significantly sized accounts globally). Having BTCUSD < $1000 puts serious limits on the kind of activity that can occur in the market. I'm really not interested in stability until that level, and I do view buying below that level as a long-term good bet. Even at that level, the total bitcoin monetary base would be worth $21 billion, which still leaves some room for gradual growth.

legendary
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August 15, 2012, 11:46:35 PM
#20
Oh no m8! I didn't sell. I'm one of the "primitive btc users", actually those bubbles makes me temporarily rich.  Grin
The problem is that they hurt hard the market, by market I mean REAL economy markets, and not a bunch of "wizards" gathering at Hogwarts as speculators are, which relies more in a stable currency than what value the currency itself helds.
legendary
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August 15, 2012, 11:42:08 PM
#19
someone sells, hoping rest will follow, if they don't follow, start telling it must go down because speculation is like religion and we like to believe in what we want =)
vip
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I still <3 u Satoshi
August 15, 2012, 11:29:55 PM
#18
Yep we've seen like what, 2-3 data points and we already draw far reaching conclusions? Statistics 101 is your prescription.


Took the words right out of my mouth. Anyone who sees a pattern after two cycles should not be posting in "speculation" but in "magic"

Want magic sub-forum now.
legendary
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August 15, 2012, 11:23:02 PM
#17
From the markets "down bellow", of the 2 I know to be still standing, I don't see where it may help on raise btc value, as the bigger one is hedged. Unless I'm that outdated and the other one has raised too and isn't hedged.
hero member
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Web Developer
August 15, 2012, 11:19:38 PM
#16
People buy more drugs in the summer Wink
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
August 15, 2012, 11:16:50 PM
#15
Well, it starts to look like a pattern, bitcoin starts to raise in June and drops dead in September. Wonder what causes this... summer holidays?
For those believing in miracles and claiming to not see the "J" shape of a bubble, just look at 1 year chart... you'll see it there, just by late July. [http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg360ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv]
Good news however, this time the bubble didn't went postal, just up to 13, maybe still go up to 15, so its drop will be "soften", perhaps to 4~5 USD for a while to recover to 7~8.

So yeah, bottom line: it's a great time to sell and welcome the new batch of bitcoiners. Let's see about next year, if it goes as before, they will become disappointed about bitcoin (making a hell of good time to buy) by October, learn how to use it by Jan-Feb 13 (if the World doesn't end in 2012 that is) and by Feb-Jun'13 we can expect a smooth bitcoin behavior before the summer peak again.
Just my 2 cents...

 Grin

4 to 5 usd?

lol!!!!!!!!!!

keep dreaming Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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August 15, 2012, 11:03:44 PM
#14
When someone wants to believe in something, he simple does... that's why we still have religion around. Same for speculation, actually speculation is more of a cancer than something good, and yes, it's mostly "belief" and "magic".
But when the trend is too good it means speculation is hitting the vital organs of the thing under speculation. When a value increases too suddenly and too much, it in fact reduces usability of the thing, make the thing that's trending up to actually worth less, it's just a matter of balance, like gold these late years, going sky high making it so expensive that no one dares to wear gold on its main function; jewelery... making it actually worthless as value depends on how people uses it to create demand. Same goes for BTC, those bumps just hurt the economy. But bottom line: nothing grows forever or towards the infinite and eventually usability and value will come to balance.
legendary
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August 15, 2012, 11:03:24 PM
#13
maybe it is just me but it seems like someone is trying to prop the price up past 13 and will fail shortly.
just watching goxlive and moodies.

we'll need to test the top a few time b4 we go into a bear market

But we won't... triangle mode for a day or two, then breakout.
legendary
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Trusted Bitcoiner
August 15, 2012, 10:57:46 PM
#12
maybe it is just me but it seems like someone is trying to prop the price up past 13 and will fail shortly.
just watching goxlive and moodies.

we'll need to test the top a few time b4 we go into a bear market
legendary
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August 15, 2012, 10:54:09 PM
#11
maybe it is just me but it seems like someone is trying to prop the price up past 13 and will fail shortly.
just watching goxlive and moodies.
full member
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August 15, 2012, 10:52:38 PM
#10
Winter is coming...

The night is dark and full of terror.
legendary
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August 15, 2012, 10:46:21 PM
#9
Winter is coming...

You're such a northern-hemispherian....
sr. member
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We are bees, and we hate you.
August 15, 2012, 10:34:02 PM
#8
Winter is coming...
legendary
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August 15, 2012, 10:30:57 PM
#7
Yep we've seen like what, 2-3 data points and we already draw far reaching conclusions? Statistics 101 is your prescription.


Took the words right out of my mouth. Anyone who sees a pattern after two cycles should not be posting in "speculation" but in "magic"
hero member
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August 15, 2012, 10:28:33 PM
#6
Yep we've seen like what, 2-3 data points and we already draw far reaching conclusions? Statistics 101 is your prescription.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
August 15, 2012, 10:22:13 PM
#5
wishful thinking

give me $2 BTC anytime, i'll take 'em!
legendary
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Trusted Bitcoiner
August 15, 2012, 10:20:29 PM
#4
Well, this seams to be new batches of bitcoiners, as its users peaks also. This new folks tend to panic sell once they see it drop, therefore the crash is unusually hard. Remember last year? It crashed to almost 2 USD. Once the panic sell settles bitcoin corrects its behavior, if it goes like last year again.

ya but last year it went mush higher then it should have...

plus there was really good resons to sell

bad news everywhere!

now all this is a good old fashion correction

the rally to 10 was justified... and is a reasonable value for bitcoins given the new demand

i think this correction will be even smaller then the one from the 7.22 high
legendary
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Merit: 1000
August 15, 2012, 10:13:14 PM
#3
Well, this seams to be new batches of bitcoiners, as its users peaks also. This new folks tend to panic sell once they see it drop, therefore the crash is unusually hard. Remember last year? It crashed to almost 2 USD. Once the panic sell settles bitcoin corrects its behavior, if it goes like last year again.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1037
Trusted Bitcoiner
August 15, 2012, 10:10:36 PM
#2
Well, it starts to look like a pattern, bitcoin starts to raise in June and drops dead in September. Wonder what causes this... summer holidays?
For those believing in miracles and claiming to not see the "J" shape of a bubble, just look at 1 year chart... you'll see it there, just by late July. [http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg360ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv]
Good news however, this time the bubble didn't went postal, just up to 13, maybe still go up to 15, so its drop will be "soften", perhaps to 4~5 USD for a while to recover to 7~8.

So yeah, bottom line: it's a great time to sell and welcome the new batch of bitcoiners. Let's see about next year, if it goes as before, they will become disappointed about bitcoin (making a hell of good time to buy) by October, learn how to use it by Jan-Feb 13 (if the World doesn't end in 2012 that is) and by Feb-Jun'13 we can expect a smooth bitcoin behavior before the summer peak again.
Just my 2 cents...

 Grin

"4~5 USD" i lol'd

the crash wont pass 10...

summer rise is probably due to Tax returns coming in.
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