Topic: Suprnova is selfish-mining BTG, and HOW YOU CAN BEAT THEM TO MAKE MONEY (Read 2126 times)

If you are mining Lyra2rev2 (vertcoin, monacoin) DON'T useCCMiner x64 2.2.3! Use the Nanashi ccminer 2.2 mod-r2 to get a match between locally reported hash rate and pool reported hashrate.

Hey Eyedoll!
I've been mining for 3 months now. I started with Zcash on Nova and then went to FlyPool as Nova was having some hard time finding blocks and one time I spent a whole day and mined almost nothing. I know it's not the pool's fault, but now I'm mining Mona there on suprnova again because I know the pool and also because I don't speak Japanese, language all the other pools display on their sites.
The thing is, I too have experience an income below what I'd expect, as I have two miners one working at 150kh/s and the other at 50kh/s and I'm not even getting what I'd expect for 155 Kh/s but a bit less.
Whattomine say I'd have 155 kh/s but mi second miner shows 50 instead of the 13 whattomine says..so I'm a bit confused here...

Could you explain me a little bit about luck and rounds?
Thank you!

Sorry, this looks like whining.

Been using Suprnova for BTG for a while now, payouts are what I expect them to be after confirmations and rounds.

You clearly don't understand how their rounds work and how luck works.

A bit of advice, you should seek to understand before you throw out scam accusations. Ever heard the story of the boy who cried "wolf!" ?

I'm sure the small miners have $14k worth of BTC to dump on hash smh.. well done on robbing them good job OP.

Suprnova is fair, I've mined multiple coins there with no downtime, getting roughly the same as my estimates.

Anyone who's mined there over any decent length of time knows this.

I have been mined LBC and BTG in suprnova and I never got any problem on their payment.
Actually most of us know that Suprnova is a trusted and legit pool, but I dont understand how it calculate the shared hashrate or sth like that.
For me, sometime I saw my hashrate in there is lower than the average value in miner. But I think it should be normal because I experienced the same thing in every pools.

I'm running 3 1070ti's at avg 1500 Sol/s on ZEN. Should be around .35-.4 coins a day. Seem to be stuck around .28 coins a day. I've had an hour here and there down time due to smos being crap but for the last 2 days my "hourly" earnings should put me at what all calculators say I should be mining daily however the last 24 hours is never what it should be, stays around the .28-.29 range it seems.

Suprnova seems to be messed up like many people in this thread have said:

I'm using Suprnova and CCMiner x64 2.2.3 (ccMiner tpruvot fork v2.2.3 With Polytimos and KeccakC support) with 4 gtx 1070s to mine Monacoin (Lyra2Rev2 algo).

CCMiner reports around 34-35 MH/s per card = 139-140 MH/s total yet Suprnova reports around 80 - 100 MH/s on the graph on the left, and in a box on the right reports around 80 MH/s.

Also, according to whattomine, I should be making 1.1-1.2 Monacoin per day.  Well, I've been mining for about 12 days and only have 8.5 Monacoin (8 paid, 0.5 not paid yet).

Something is obviously not right...

Join https://coinblockers.com
It needs some more Hashpower urgently!

The pool at http://bgold.mining4.co.uk/getting_started does have a discord channel, https://discord.gg/beWHa4, which is attended by the pool operator (I am not he).  Only three blocks of BTG mined so far, on fewer than 1.4 million shares submitted (that is, better-than-expected luck).

Mining. Pool. Hub. Go there and mine btg `till kingdom come.

I've also contacted ocminer without response.  If you're growing too big try to at least get more people to help with customer support because your pool is great.   Is the BCC pool still active? There is no hash there.  Why is the BCC payout so large, according to another post?  Small miners probably can't make that.   What exactly is it?

Maybe you need a slack channel.

Man... I just want to mine BTG.

If the world is better off if I point my measly little rig somewhere other than Suprnova, then so be it. Just tell me where to point it.

1.  If suprnova were selfish-mining, it would benefit all contributors to the pool.  A pool can steal from its contributors in many ways, but straightforward selfish-mining is not one of them.

2a.  The bad luck exhibited by btg.suprnova.cc is extraordinary.  According to the statistics shown at https://btg.suprnova.cc/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks, lifetime, enough shares have been submitted to find almost 2500 blocks (2480 as I write), with a standard error of 50 blocks.  In fact, only 1505 blocks have been found, a variation of 20 standard errors.  Luck that bad by chance is more unlikely than finding two blocks on your first two shares submitted.

2b.  There were problems with some of the pool software, including code that extracted a secret fee for the benefit of one of the developers.  But even if we look at just the last week of mining, we see enough shares to mine 959 blocks, with a standard error of 31 blocks... and only 633 have actually been mined.  That's over 10 standard errors of bad luck.  So even if pool software problems caused the earlier apparent bad luck, those should have been fixed for more than a week, yet the bad luck continues.

3.  Having over 50% of the blocks of a chain mined by a single entity is brittle.  All of us who own, mine, receive or spend BTG would be better off if suprnova's share of the mining were substantially lower than it is.

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Marvell2

1. Never look at hasrate just what you get over 24h (sure luck can be a issue to know right)!!!! (that all miners should learn, not only about suprnova but all pools!)
2. yeah suprnova email alert is broken and ocminer is lazy to fix it
3. pool logout for a reason, I presume to offload servers also there are a lot attack being done

Dont like supernova either, constantly logs me out, never get notifications when rigs are down
and my hashrate is always lower on the node that it should be, I have 10 rigs of 1070s mixed with
1080tis , i should be at 28k sols but pool consistently show 25k sols

If ethpool or another pool starts a btg pool , Im out

On First Day of MainChain launch itself BTG Dev has alerted about centralization on one of the pool, which is not fair for any one who interests in BTG. Miners has to understand and shift there Hashes to other best pools (not biased, next best available pool BTGpool.pro as of now..). It fair for everyone who is spending on resources like Time, Hardware and Power should not be wasted un-economically!!

So bad pool really guys, just don't mine on Supernova, never!

ok after 24 hours i can say that suprnova is giving me 100% of what whattomine says i should get. so i dont know i will continue mining in nova

ocminer --

Sorry to grab you off-topic but I've tried reaching out to you via email and PM without a response.

I've been mining on xmr.suprnova.cc for a few months now and just recently noticed several of the payments were not received in my wallet -- another user on the forum had a similar issue a while back. The payments that were not received also do not show TX ids on the transaction page of the pool site. Total missing is about 3.1XMR.

Please help get my XMR to me or figure out where it went -- $450 isn't alot for some people but my electric bill is due and the money isn't here to pay it. You have a good reputation and I've mined on your pools for years -- so I'm sure it's just a mixup somewhere -- I'd just like to get it fixed.

It sucks that I have to post with a newbie account because I've had an account here for years, but it was locked in the 2015 hack and I haven't been able to get it unlocked.

Thank you

why should we support a fork founded by people who cheated in the first place? ppl should just ignore this fork.