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Hi, this scheme is quite interesting.  However, there are few points that I am worried or somewhat skeptical in this scheme,

1. If general lenders are all guaranteed with what they lend without risking their own money, would they
just lend as much as they want so that they can maximize their returns because there is no fear in loosing their own money?

2.  Guarantors only get a few percent of what they put in collateral for borrowers.  So, if even a few of the borrowers
they guaranteed get default, their net profits are easily gone because the net profit from other is larger than what they put in collateral for one person?  Does that means there is less incentive to join for guarantors?

3.  You have stated there is only a micro-loan around 1000USD for max. with short term to be provided as a loan.  Why there is such a small limit?  If there is one who cannot even borrow such a small amount from legit institutions in real life, I wonder he or she might be the one who is the least credit and likely get into default.

Hope to get answers at least one or two above
Thanks,

1. General lenders lend money after a borrower is checked and had a loan scoring process.
There are credit reporting agencies almost in all countries, financial institutions  usually check with a credit reference bureau a credit history of this or that person who asks for a loan or credit. Every and each borrower will be checked and a loan scoring procedure will be undertaken under him. Of course, there will be a lot of people from a higher risk group and that will be indicated in his/her profile in Suretly's application. It’s up to you whom to choose - low income with low risk or high income with high risk. You can always choose profiles with the minimum risk rate. It will depend on every voucher strategy.


2.  First of all, guarantors don’t share an interest rate with lender. The borrower should pay to guarantors separately and the cost of voucher’s service will be between 5% (for low-risk borrowers) to 20% (for-very-high risk borrowers) from a loan amount.
Also, vouchers get their profit in the moment of a loan issuing, not at the end of a loan-period term. Every voucher can be responsible only for $10 dollars per each loan.


3. Of course, there are lot of such organizations which lend money for such short-term period.
Microcredits is a huge market.  In the USA, for example, a half of an adult population is "underserved", that means  they are not able to have a loan from classic lenders (such as banks). According to CSFI (Center for Financial Services innovation), such people spent up to $40 billion annually  on fees and interest for such type of loans only in the US.
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Hallo, my rank has gone up to member, please update and i will change the signature. Thanks

The update will be on Saturday as usually.

We have updated the White paper, here are some changes:

- A brief information about the markets of micro-loans in the US and Russia was added;
- You can a sketchy roadmap;
- A new section was added «Are vouchers interested?»;
- You can read details how the buy-burn process will work (there won’t be any dividends paid to investors- Suretly will buyback SUR-tokens on exchanges and burn them, the amount of SUR-tokens won’t decrease and it will be almost the same as a dividend payout);
- A new member of a core team was added (Regional Director for work with CIS and Russia).

Here is the link to the White paper: https://suretly.com/docs/Suretly_whitepaper_v1.2.pdf



Thanks for the update.
Everything goes well.
I just wish there will be more videos in YouTube.

Today there will be a live stream on Youtube. Eugene Lobachev, CEO and Founder Suretly will answer on the most exciting and harsh questions from Addy Crezee.




This is one to watch. Good that there is more media attention


For everybody who missed it:  The interview with Suretly CEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zGmEthNcac

And maybe he should start learning english as a blockchain tech CEO...

Oh, he knows English alright))) He decided not to scare people away with his Siberian accent  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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eugene is smart dev,
i bet this ico will be funded in one day, i also like the buyback coin program it will make this team very trusted IMO, 1 token for $10, and when buyback start the coin will be going higher...will keep the coin for years
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Hallo, my rank has gone up to member, please update and i will change the signature. Thanks
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Hi, this scheme is quite interesting.  However, there are few points that I am worried or somewhat skeptical in this scheme,

1. If general lenders are all guaranteed with what they lend without risking their own money, would they
just lend as much as they want so that they can maximize their returns because there is no fear in loosing their own money?

2.  Guarantors only get a few percent of what they put in collateral for borrowers.  So, if even a few of the borrowers
they guaranteed get default, their net profits are easily gone because the net profit from other is larger than what they put in collateral for one person?  Does that means there is less incentive to join for guarantors?

3.  You have stated there is only a micro-loan around 1000USD for max. with short term to be provided as a loan.  Why there is such a small limit?  If there is one who cannot even borrow such a small amount from legit institutions in real life, I wonder he or she might be the one who is the least credit and likely get into default.

Hope to get answers at least one or two above
Thanks,
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Why everybody is choosing waves. And what will u gain from creating two chains. Why everyone targets Eth chain for their tokens is clear, it has pumped 50X and is still being hyped like no tomorrow but whats the deal with waves. Two chains based on different technologies and maintained by nobody, sounds like surreal bullshit.
There are several platforms that can be used to create tokens and any project can select any platform of their choosing and so is the reason most of the ICO are using ETH and waves,later on we might see ANS being used for creating tokens,it not all about the price of the given platform,even the price of ETH started rising recently.
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We have updated the White paper, here are some changes:

- A brief information about the markets of micro-loans in the US and Russia was added;
- You can a sketchy roadmap;
- A new section was added «Are vouchers interested?»;
- You can read details how the buy-burn process will work (there won’t be any dividends paid to investors- Suretly will buyback SUR-tokens on exchanges and burn them, the amount of SUR-tokens won’t decrease and it will be almost the same as a dividend payout);
- A new member of a core team was added (Regional Director for work with CIS and Russia).

Here is the link to the White paper: https://suretly.com/docs/Suretly_whitepaper_v1.2.pdf



Thanks for the update.
Everything goes well.
I just wish there will be more videos in YouTube.

Today there will be a live stream on Youtube. Eugene Lobachev, CEO and Founder Suretly will answer on the most exciting and harsh questions from Addy Crezee.




This is one to watch. Good that there is more media attention


For everybody who missed it:  The interview with Suretly CEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zGmEthNcac

And maybe he should start learning english as a blockchain tech CEO...
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Can you please also update your website about the ICO bonus structure and further ICO information. I could not find it
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When do we get to decide?

Hi, during ICO you will be able to convert your Pre-SUR to SUR-tokens which would be of two types based on Ethereum and Waves. You will choose it yourself which one you want. You will be able to do that in the investor dashboard.

Why everybody is choosing waves. And what will u gain from creating two chains. Why everyone targets Eth chain for their tokens is clear, it has pumped 50X and is still being hyped like no tomorrow but whats the deal with waves. Two chains based on different technologies and maintained by nobody, sounds like surreal bullshit.

There were/ are/ will always be lovers and haters of every platforms.

 ETH is not the only one platform for token issuing, many investors wanted to have the ability to use WAVES tokens because of low transaction fees and easy of use.
The early investors are followers of both blockchain platform, so Suretly decided to give the possibility to choose to type of tokens they want to get.
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When do we get to decide?

Hi, during ICO you will be able to convert your Pre-SUR to SUR-tokens which would be of two types based on Ethereum and Waves. You will choose it yourself which one you want. You will be able to do that in the investor dashboard.

Why everybody is choosing waves. And what will u gain from creating two chains. Why everyone targets Eth chain for their tokens is clear, it has pumped 50X and is still being hyped like no tomorrow but whats the deal with waves. Two chains based on different technologies and maintained by nobody, sounds like surreal bullshit.
E_L
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When do we get to decide?

Hi, during ICO you will be able to convert your Pre-SUR to SUR-tokens which would be of two types based on Ethereum and Waves. You will choose it yourself which one you want. You will be able to do that in the investor dashboard.
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We are the ones we've been waiting for
Wait, do we need to convert our pre-SUR tokens to waves tokens?

You will convert your Pre-SUR to SUR-tokens which would be of two types based on Ethereum and Waves. You will choose it yourself which one you want. Nobody will impose anything on you! If you want Ethereum token, it is your choice, you just choose it.


Will future recana be available on which exchange? Does this token accept investment with BTC or ETH, or is it both? I'm interested in joining ICO. See the amount of enthusiasm that is, this will be a good project in investment

We are negotiating with exchanges at the moment.

You can invest using BTC, ETH, Waves, LTC.

When do we get to decide?
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Wait, do we need to convert our pre-SUR tokens to waves tokens?

You will convert your Pre-SUR to SUR-tokens which would be of two types based on Ethereum and Waves. You will choose it yourself which one you want. Nobody will impose anything on you! If you want Ethereum token, it is your choice, you just choose it.


Will future recana be available on which exchange? Does this token accept investment with BTC or ETH, or is it both? I'm interested in joining ICO. See the amount of enthusiasm that is, this will be a good project in investment

We are negotiating with exchanges at the moment.

You can invest using BTC, ETH, Waves, LTC.
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We are the ones we've been waiting for
Wait, do we need to convert our pre-SUR tokens to waves tokens?
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Will future recana be available on which exchange? Does this token accept investment with BTC or ETH, or is it both? I'm interested in joining ICO. See the amount of enthusiasm that is, this will be a good project in investment
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We have updated the White paper, here are some changes:

- A brief information about the markets of micro-loans in the US and Russia was added;
- You can a sketchy roadmap;
- A new section was added «Are vouchers interested?»;
- You can read details how the buy-burn process will work (there won’t be any dividends paid to investors- Suretly will buyback SUR-tokens on exchanges and burn them, the amount of SUR-tokens won’t decrease and it will be almost the same as a dividend payout);
- A new member of a core team was added (Regional Director for work with CIS and Russia).

Here is the link to the White paper: https://suretly.com/docs/Suretly_whitepaper_v1.2.pdf

If SUR will be bought back and burnt, there should be less SUR and therefore the total amount should decrease, shouldn't it Huh

I am sorry it was a foolish mistake made by me. We are in hysterical state preparing for the interview.

You are right! The amount of SUR-tokens will decrease. I will correct it.
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Today there will be a live stream on Youtube. Eugene Lobachev, CEO and Founder Suretly will answer on the most exciting and harsh questions from Addy Crezee.


16:00 (GMT), 6th of July, Live: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2xsavNLSzXNA1H89ZGgQuw?view_as=subscriber



Looks like it will e 16:00 London time, not GMT. We will post the link to translation here. Stay tuned.
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We have updated the White paper, here are some changes:

- A brief information about the markets of micro-loans in the US and Russia was added;
- You can a sketchy roadmap;
- A new section was added «Are vouchers interested?»;
- You can read details how the buy-burn process will work (there won’t be any dividends paid to investors- Suretly will buyback SUR-tokens on exchanges and burn them, the amount of SUR-tokens won’t decrease and it will be almost the same as a dividend payout);
- A new member of a core team was added (Regional Director for work with CIS and Russia).

Here is the link to the White paper: https://suretly.com/docs/Suretly_whitepaper_v1.2.pdf

If SUR will be bought back and burnt, there should be less SUR and therefore the total amount should decrease, shouldn't it Huh

I am also not sure what they mean with the last sentence, however I expect it to be similar to Iconomi , which does decrease the total amount. It will inturn probably increase the price of the token.
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