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Topic: Surfaced: Email conversation between Satoshi and Adam Back - page 2. (Read 370 times)

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the reason its become suddenly relevant. is due to the COPA vs CSW case where adams involvement, or lack there of in the early days needed clarity

Understood.

It's probably nothing but I find it interesting that anon email/privacy site was based in Japan....

Looks like it went offline around 2012 from the wayback cache but those email addresses he used were known to "crypto reporters" back in 2020
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Im sure the sleuths have already been all over it but thought it was just bitcointalk he had used to communicate

adam and satoshi never communicated on this forum because adam didnt sign up to this forum until 2013, long after satoshi left
satoshi's communication with adam was just for citation not creative collaborations

so nothing exciting.

the reason its become suddenly relevant. is due to the COPA vs CSW case where adams involvement, or lack there of in the early days needed clarity
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Even with numerous leaked conversations of Satoshi and the privacy oriented minds nothing can still been done about his identity. I still wonder why people are so interested in knowing who Satoshi is.

In every meeting that occured with the popular cyberpunks I believe Satoshi was very much active there but his privacy is what amazes me, but maybe every one of the cyberpunk is Satoshi themselves. This privacy thing has it own way of operations
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Wasn't aware of the domain he had used back then, registered in 2006 apparently

Im sure the sleuths have already been all over it but thought it was just bitcointalk he had used to communicate

Edit: Email 1 (@anonymousspeech.com) and 5 (@vistomail) are different email addresses hmmmm

Wonder what happened to Satoshi's OG anon email site...

https://web.archive.org/web/20070110120046/http://www.anonymousspeech.com/
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It has actually surprised me that a good number of solid Cypherpunks have actually revealed their identities. While they're strong advocates of privacy, they're not actually hiding or working in the shadows. The likes of Adam Back, Wei Dei, Hal Finney, Nick Szabo, and others are public. Even the Cypherpunk's Manifesto was written by Eric Hughes. Eric's co-founders of the Cypherpunk movement, Timothy May and John Gilmore, are also personally known.

And they're also not just communicating online and anonymously. They also had face-to-face meetings. I wonder if Satoshi ever attended.
Well, they can reveal their own identity but I don't see any of them revealing other people's identity plus they probably won't mind revealing themselves as they probably think that they could get their message across much more effective if they reveal themselves to the public plus these personalities that revealed their identity and have considered themselves as cypherpunks are probably just scratching the surface behind the advocacy towards a more private living and interaction on the online space. Satoshi probably attended and he probably used a different identity, that's the only logical explanation here, at least for me.
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This isn't entirely new. At least we've already known prior to this that Adam Back had correspondence with Satoshi Nakamoto.

But I'm a little bit surprised that Satoshi was already ready for Bitcoin's whitepaper release when he/she/they learned of Wei Dei's B-money. I thought Wei Dei's early work played a vital role early on while Satoshi was still conceiving Bitcoin. If not for Adam Back, Bitcoin would have been created entirely oblivious of B-money.

I have this suspicion that Satoshi wasn't well-connected with the rest of the gang. Of course, there wasn't only The Cryptography Mailing List, that Satoshi was part of, where the development of an electronic cash is abundantly discussed. There were several other lists. Satoshi might not be part of many of those.

Unlikely to happen in my opinion, Adam probably don't have a direct or physical contact with Satoshi so it's unlikely that they're going to get something out of him, plus he's a cypherpunk meaning that even if he does know about the identity of Satoshi, there's no way that he would reveal it because he's an advocate of cryptography and privacy and revealing the identity would be a serious problem or flaw in his principle which I don't think he'll break anytime soon just for everyone to know who's the person behind the identity, and the email that Satoshi used is basically anonymous so there's no tracing back to who's behind the email.

It has actually surprised me that a good number of solid Cypherpunks have actually revealed their identities. While they're strong advocates of privacy, they're not actually hiding or working in the shadows. The likes of Adam Back, Wei Dei, Hal Finney, Nick Szabo, and others are public. Even the Cypherpunk's Manifesto was written by Eric Hughes. Eric's co-founders of the Cypherpunk movement, Timothy May and John Gilmore, are also personally known.

And they're also not just communicating online and anonymously. They also had face-to-face meetings. I wonder if Satoshi, albeit unknown, turned up even once. Of perhaps one of them is indeed Satoshi.
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Satoshi's email has changed several times, which suggests that he takes adequate measures to protect his personal information, and I do not think that just because of a screenshot of old conversations, they will find out who Satoshi is.

It is useful for the historical narrative of what the early days were like and how Satoshi was able to attract more ideas for his project.
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I guess, those e-mail conversations could give a clue to many people that who Satoshi can be, but they still won't be able to find the mysterious creator of Bitcoin. I'm sure they'll try their best to force Adam to know more details about Satoshi based on those e-mails.
Unlikely to happen in my opinion, Adam probably don't have a direct or physical contact with Satoshi so it's unlikely that they're going to get something out of him, plus he's a cypherpunk meaning that even if he does know about the identity of Satoshi, there's no way that he would reveal it because he's an advocate of cryptography and privacy and revealing the identity would be a serious problem or flaw in his principle which I don't think he'll break anytime soon just for everyone to know who's the person behind the identity, and the email that Satoshi used is basically anonymous so there's no tracing back to who's behind the email.
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I guess Satoshi somehow had some good conversation with Adam Back. He's truly a cryptography genius so that's why Satoshi needed to introduce the concept of Bitcoin to him first. It's amazing to know that Adam back told Satoshi about B-money, which is kind of a strange thing.

I guess, those e-mail conversations could give a clue to many people that who Satoshi can be, but they still won't be able to find the mysterious creator of Bitcoin. I'm sure they'll try their best to force Adam to know more details about Satoshi based on those e-mails.
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Email #1: Adam and Satoshi discuss Bitcoin 4 months before its official launch: https://twitter.com/pete_rizzo_/status/1760718737286537526
Email #2: Adam's reply: https://twitter.com/pete_rizzo_/status/1760718740134445345
Email #3: Satoshi thanks Adam: https://twitter.com/pete_rizzo_/status/1760718742424535370
Email #4: Adam still hasn't read the white paper: https://twitter.com/pete_rizzo_/status/1760718744991465925
Email #5: The final email: https://twitter.com/pete_rizzo_/status/1760718747768087033
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