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August 26, 2012, 06:12:34 PM
#58
How is a newbie with a single post able to post outside the newbie section? Wink

I'm guessing a forum admin knows yokosan?

He deleted all of his other posts.

oops.. your right... my bad..
my apologies to any insinuations I may have made against the admins.  Grin
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August 26, 2012, 05:16:51 PM
#57
How is a newbie with a single post able to post outside the newbie section? Wink

I'm guessing a forum admin knows yokosan?
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August 26, 2012, 03:40:45 PM
#56
Well, first, I'm pretty sure "slander" isn't a crime.
Second, the word you're looking for is libel.

IANAL and depends on jurisdiction obviously. But there is case law suggesting that  posts on forums like this are more likely to be slander than libel and that one cannot libel against an anonymous or even semi-anonymous forum nick.


I'd like to know more about these cases.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Mr+Justice+Eady+slander&rlz=1C1CHFX_en-gbGB490GB490&sugexp=chrome,mod=2&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


That seems to run counter to my knowledge of it, but that may have more to do with the fact that this judge, a pioneer in defamation laws making something written a potential slander when it was always considered libel before, is in the UK.  Littleshop and I are in the US.
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August 26, 2012, 03:22:12 PM
#55
Well, first, I'm pretty sure "slander" isn't a crime.
Second, the word you're looking for is libel.

IANAL and depends on jurisdiction obviously. But there is case law suggesting that  posts on forums like this are more likely to be slander than libel and that one cannot libel against an anonymous or even semi-anonymous forum nick.


I'd like to know more about these cases.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Mr+Justice+Eady+slander&rlz=1C1CHFX_en-gbGB490GB490&sugexp=chrome,mod=2&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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August 26, 2012, 03:19:45 PM
#54
Well, first, I'm pretty sure "slander" isn't a crime.
Second, the word you're looking for is libel.

IANAL and depends on jurisdiction obviously. But there is case law suggesting that  posts on forums like this are more likely to be slander than libel and that one cannot libel against an anonymous or even semi-anonymous forum nick.


I'd like to know more about these cases.
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August 26, 2012, 03:16:39 PM
#53
The only person that can really tell who is Pirateat40 is CrazyLane:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.563605



meh, prime time for a shill IMO

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/crazyguy-25223

seems like all the shill accounts are always active in some mining or buying or selling mining stuff, then get into lending.


I think he is pretty real and maybe independent of this mess. He has an ebay account with good reputation:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=crazyblane&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true

Last item he sold was from Piano, Texas: http://www.ebay.com/itm/290733465887

Also, he has an account in heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=77178

Here his location is Allen, Texas. It seems someone who deal with hardware.

I think pirate was *very* involved with mining at his beginnings (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/auction-more-cards-available-5970-2x6970-1x6950-closed-48692), then he led towards selling bitcoins (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.609864). And finally, he found something related with buying debt: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.643376

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August 26, 2012, 02:09:17 PM
#52
Well, first, I'm pretty sure "slander" isn't a crime.
Second, the word you're looking for is libel.

IANAL and depends on jurisdiction obviously. But there is case law suggesting that  posts on forums like this are more likely to be slander than libel and that one cannot libel against an anonymous or even semi-anonymous forum nick.
legendary
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August 26, 2012, 01:41:08 PM
#51
For the record, this is the best way of closing threads.

You never did fix that bitch!  Grin

I think I figured out how you broke it. I also believe that you're not planning on fixing it.

legendary
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August 26, 2012, 01:33:48 PM
#50
For the record, this is the best way of closing threads.
legendary
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August 26, 2012, 01:24:35 PM
#49
The only person that can really tell who is Pirateat40 is CrazyLane:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.563605



meh, prime time for a shill IMO

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/crazyguy-25223

seems like all the shill accounts are always active in some mining or buying or selling mining stuff, then get into lending.


Send him a PM, he was online today.
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August 26, 2012, 12:33:50 PM
#48
The only person that can really tell who is Pirateat40 is CrazyLane:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.563605



meh, prime time for a shill IMO

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/crazyguy-25223

seems like all the shill accounts are always active in some mining or buying or selling mining stuff, then get into lending.
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August 26, 2012, 11:01:12 AM
#46

I never said slander was a crime, nor did I say the OP committed a crime.  Here is the definition of slander.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/slander


Again, the word you're looking for is libel.  Second, falsehood isn't the standard you'd have to meet.  You'd need to prove at least negligence, and possibly recklessness on the part of OP.  And to extract damages, you may need to prove that the man in the picture suffered somehow.
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August 26, 2012, 10:59:41 AM
#45
OMG PIRATE THEMED POST BY A GUY WITH A SIMILAR NAME TO SOMEONE THAT SHARED A LINK TO A DROPBOX THAT MAY BE PIRATES, MUST BE PIRATE RIGHT?


That's how I've been known to do it.  Grin (just started on this thread)
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August 26, 2012, 10:54:11 AM
#44
I saved the first version of his post as a full HTML page Cheesy
legendary
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August 26, 2012, 10:40:45 AM
#43
Oh crap I knew I should have mad a screenshot for the lulz.
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August 26, 2012, 10:32:35 AM
#42

The basic idea is good, but the execution was a bit overkill.  Tongue Grin

I suppose accusing random person X of being random person Y (a known axe rapist)
while posting his person X's picture, address and pictures of his home on a Google indexed public forum is kinda... bad.


Raping axes is deplorable.
legendary
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August 26, 2012, 10:28:14 AM
#41
This is nonsense.

People should think a lot harder before posting private information.

This is not private information. Pirate posted that Dropbox link on a public forum. The individual in question maintains a blog about himself. I do not see how simply reproducing that material might offend privacy as you appear to imply. As always on the internet, you are the sole responsible for what you put on the web; the web doesn't force you.

Posting of the mere information about Greg itself might not be a crime but the entire post seems like clear slander.   He does not say that they are related, he says one is the other.  Unless that is true, it is slander.  

IANAL

Almost certain what you're saying isn't true.

Why??  What part? 

Well, first, I'm pretty sure "slander" isn't a crime.

Second, the word you're looking for is libel.

Third, a suit for defamation would require OP to be negligent in his publication, or knowing that it is a false statement (doubtful).  I think negligence may be provable, depending on the care OP took in his research.

In short, there are several hurdles to leap.  And if one is going to say, "OP is a slanderer," does one not subject himself to the same cause of action for defamation of which he accuses OP?

I never said slander was a crime, nor did I say the OP committed a crime.  Here is the definition of slander.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/slander



legendary
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August 26, 2012, 10:06:46 AM
#40

I don't know why you guys are talking about pirate, this is a Harry Potter thread.
Someone edited out OP. would someone please check who did that? (by placing your cursor on the op's date) I'm on a tablet hence I can't do so .

The original poster edited it and moved it.  

The basic idea is good, but the execution was a bit overkill.  Tongue Grin

I suppose accusing random person X of being random person Y (a known axe rapist)
while posting his person X's picture, address and pictures of his home on a Google indexed public forum is kinda... bad.

Still, this thread had good leads. I hope OP moderates, sanitizes and restores his post.



Or something along those lines... Roll Eyes

Hmm... OP deleted every one of his posts but this one. What the meatspin is going on?  Tongue
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August 26, 2012, 10:05:19 AM
#39
This is nonsense.

People should think a lot harder before posting private information.

This is not private information. Pirate posted that Dropbox link on a public forum. The individual in question maintains a blog about himself. I do not see how simply reproducing that material might offend privacy as you appear to imply. As always on the internet, you are the sole responsible for what you put on the web; the web doesn't force you.

Posting of the mere information about Greg itself might not be a crime but the entire post seems like clear slander.   He does not say that they are related, he says one is the other.  Unless that is true, it is slander.  

IANAL

Almost certain what you're saying isn't true.

Why??  What part? 

Well, first, I'm pretty sure "slander" isn't a crime.

Second, the word you're looking for is libel.

Third, a suit for defamation would require OP to be negligent in his publication, or knowing that it is a false statement (doubtful).  I think negligence may be provable, depending on the care OP took in his research.

In short, there are several hurdles to leap.  And if one is going to say, "OP is a slanderer," does one not subject himself to the same cause of action for defamation of which he accuses OP?
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