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legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
Survey Says Most Americans Lie On Surveys
legendary
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Then by all means please enlighten me with your mental superiority.


Nah, I'll decline. You're too closed minded to engage in a rational argument.

Clearly it sounds like you have a better answer to how we ended up with such a diverse display of life than what can be explained by natural selection. Then let's hear it.

You're almost apologetic for believing in evolution. You should be, its a stupid idea. Doesn't stand up to rational thought, violates physical laws, and is immune to the laws of probability.
hero member
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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
The societies of primitive primates [lol redundant much?] are were also very much controlled by violence.
That is a myth, and is wholly untrue. Hobbes was an idiot who totally misunderstood human nature. Read Sex at Dawn.

If you had to pick one point in all time of history to be alive as a human, you couldn't pick a better time than now...
I'm sure the noble families of the feudal age thought the same thing, oblivious to the endless suffering of their peasants. If you're an American or European white person (especially male), you're living in a bubble of privilege. You're clueless to the reality of the lives of most people on Earth.
Life is not so great for the folks who make your clothes in Bangladesh, or the kids who assemble your electronics in Guangzhou, or the wage-slaves who harvest your coffee beans, or the undocumented migrant workers in your own nation. Ask them what they think of capitalism.

Oh wait, you don't care. Far easier to remain blissfully ignorant, apathetic, and tacitly complicit in their suffering, while in utter denial about your own.
sr. member
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You say food and shelter, etc should be a birthright
but who pays for it?
I know it's hard to fathom in your myopia, but for a looooooong time (about 500,000 years, actually), Homo Sapiens supported each other without the need for money. Love and reciprocity were all that were necessary.

Kind of like how it works in the really poor parts of Africa today?
Not even close, no. Being poor does not exempt you from the power relations inherent in violence-backed capitalism. Quite the opposite.

Our society today is controlled by direct violence or the threat of violence, we agree, right? The societies of primitive primates are also very much controlled by violence. So you are claiming that between those two stages of our evolution, all was just fine and dandy?

Apes are fighting over fruit and even buying sex for it. If you had to pick one point in all time of history to be alive as a human, you couldn't pick a better time than now, or of course maybe the future  Wink
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
You say food and shelter, etc should be a birthright
but who pays for it?
I know it's hard to fathom in your myopia, but there was a time (about 500,000 years, actually) when Homo Sapiens supported each other without the need for money.

Capitalism has existed on this planet for an unbelievably tiny length of time when viewed on an evolutionary timescale.

You're evading the question.

Someone always "pays" whether
its with money, bartering, or
simple time, effort, and energy.

Not that it matters, since money
isn't devolving back to barter,
in fact its evolving forward into crypto.

Bottom line: either you force individuals into certain
behaviors and supporting others financially (socialism) or you don't (capitalism).

If you're gonna advocate socialism, at least be consistent and admit
there's an element of coercion and force involved to make people
follow the rules.


hero member
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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
You say food and shelter, etc should be a birthright
but who pays for it?
I know it's hard to fathom in your myopia, but for a looooooong time (about 500,000 years, actually), Homo Sapiens supported each other without the need for money. Love and reciprocity were all that were necessary.

Kind of like how it works in the really poor parts of Africa today?
Not even close, no. Being poor does not exempt you from the power relations inherent in violence-backed capitalism. Quite the opposite.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Decentralize All The Things!
You say food and shelter, etc should be a birthright
but who pays for it?
I know it's hard to fathom in your myopia, but for a looooooong time (about 500,000 years, actually), Homo Sapiens supported each other without the need for money. Love and reciprocity were all that were necessary.

Kind of like how it works in the really poor parts of Africa today?
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
You say food and shelter, etc should be a birthright
but who pays for it?
I know it's hard to fathom in your brainwashed myopia, but for a looooooong time (about 500,000 years, actually), Homo Sapiens supported each other without the need for money. Love and reciprocity were all that were necessary.

Capitalism has existed on this planet for an unbelievably tiny length of time when viewed on an evolutionary timescale.

Read this:



And this:

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Most Americans are not intelligent.  It's the harsh truth.
does that correlate with the fact that most Americans want Bitcoins banished?  It probably does.

legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
Your worldview is self-contradictory.

You say food and shelter, etc should be a birthright
but who pays for it?   If others are not forced to pay
for it, then that is capitalism.  If others are forced
to pay for it, that implies violence. 

hero member
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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
Who gives a flying f*** about what the uninformed masses in the USA thinks?

Here's some more random info, and who knows, some of these claims about the stupidity of the masses might even be true!

- 25% of USAnians don't believe in Darwin's theory of evolution while less than 40% do.
- Two out of five USAnians think teachers should be able to lead prayer in the classroom, despite the fact that the separation of church and state is a foundation of their democracy.
- As of just a few years ago, about half of USAnians still suspected a connection between Saddam Hussein and the attacks of September 11th.
- Nearly one-fifth of Americans think Obama is a Muslim.
- About a decade ago, 20 percent of USAnians still believed that the sun revolves around the earth.


Fred Hoyle, Francis Crick, James Jeans, Robert Jastrow, George Greenstein, Arno Penzias, and Robert Shapiro also don't believe in evolution. Are they stupid people too? You might want to remove this off your list.
I'll let Rust Cohle answer that for me, few have ever said it better.

"If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, than brother that person is a piece of shit, and I'd like to get as many of them out in the open as possible."
"What's it say about life? You've gotta get together and tell yourselves stories that violate every law of the universe, just to get through the goddamn day? What's that say about your reality?"
"People are so goddamn frail they'd rather put a coin in a wishing well than buy dinner."
"Certain linguistic anthropologists think that religion is a language virus that rewrites pathways in the brain; dulls critical thinking."

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The parallels between nation-state indoctrination into fiat and debt-slavery and religious indoctrination into godfear slavery are clear as crystal for those of us who have survived the painful process of auto-deprogramming the lies and myths of our sick mother culture.
In the end all forms of controlling human beings comes down to making them afraid. Fear. Fear of god's wrath, fear of prison, fear of poverty, fear of homelessness, fear of state-violence, fear of loneliness, shame, guilt, stigmatization, and social rejection.

All suffering is rooted in fear, all fear is rooted in violence and survival insecurity. Systematic violence is aided by superstition as superstition inhibits reason, and fear inhibits compassion.

Reason and compassion are the cures to all the ills of human society. Utopia waits just outside the dark tunnel of a world governed by violence and fear.
If we want our species to live in a world governed by reason instead of violence - ruled by compassion instead of fear, there is only way to move forward.

We must make decent food, shelter, healthcare, and education [And I don't mean nation-state indoctrination-schooling] available to all human beings as a birthright.

The plain fact is, humanity can do better than capitalism.

Yours in solidarity and compassion,

World Citizen Beliathon

sr. member
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So you want to put a fairy tale in its place? Are you trolling? I'm not even sure anymore.

I doubt you've got the mental capacity to reason through a sound argument. You broke two rules of logic with your first sentence. You cobbled a strawman argument into a loaded question.  Roll Eyes

Then by all means please enlighten me with your mental superiority.

Clearly it sounds like you have a better answer to how we ended up with such a diverse display of life than what can be explained by natural selection. Then let's hear it.
legendary
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So you want to put a fairy tale in its place? Are you trolling? I'm not even sure anymore.

I doubt you've got the mental capacity to reason through a sound argument. You broke two rules of logic with your first sentence. You cobbled a strawman argument into a loaded question.  Roll Eyes
sr. member
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If you disregard facts proven again and again by the scientific method and instead choose to believe in made up fairy tales that has no more credibility than santa claus himself, then yes. Or maybe you are just forced to act like you actually believe in such childish nonsense because of your surroundings. Those are about the only two reasons I can think of.


I agree. Evolution doesn't belong in science. The scientific method shows that its a made up fairy tale from the 19th century.

PM me to discuss. I have no qualms of tackling any argument you use to support your views.

So you want to put a fairy tale in its place? Are you trolling? I'm not even sure anymore.
legendary
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Merit: 1006

If you disregard facts proven again and again by the scientific method and instead choose to believe in made up fairy tales that has no more credibility than santa claus himself, then yes. Or maybe you are just forced to act like you actually believe in such childish nonsense because of your surroundings. Those are about the only two reasons I can think of.


I agree. Evolution doesn't belong in science. The scientific method shows that its a made up fairy tale from the 19th century.

PM me to discuss. I have no qualms of tackling any argument you use to support your views.

legendary
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lmfao Survey Says Most Americans Want to Ban Bitcoin: Highlighting Need for Education

I find that very hard to believe when most of the US is beginning to use it and learning how to use it. And highlighting a need for education. US needs a far better education system all together and to actually give US people something they can actually use in the future that will  benefit them from all the crap they learn. English and maths yeah ok  but the rest of it is not really needed is it. the education system should throw in better subjects like working out money. How to cook. How to prepaid food and not have to go to college to learn this.

With regards to the 2,000 that voted they wanted it banned I bet they where all related to bankers or partners 2,000 people is nothing. Go try getting a survey from 1 million people or at least 10% of the US and ull find better results.

Non-religious individuals, 48%, know some or a lot about bitcoin.

Again seems like they wasn't asking the right people and to be honest the more I read about this survey the more shady it gets and i find it very doubtful they will ban it with the amount of things that are going on within the US to make it fully compliant with their laws.
sr. member
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Just means that the propaganda media has done it's job making BTC look like some evil online drug money.  It's an uphill battle to legitimize it, but in time we'll win.  I did find the part about religious people wanting to ban transactions with it interesting.  Brainwashed people tend to believe anything shoved down their throats Cheesy

This is not so much propaganda as a lot of bitcoin activity does have to do with nefarious activity.

What needs to happen is more business start to accept bitcoin to associate bitcoin with legitimate commerce.
hero member
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Buy and sell bitcoins,
Wow, that's too bad. I suppose it's been villainized quite a lot by the media, associated with all sorts of illicit stuff. I was hoping all the good news over the past few months would start to cancel that stuff out.
sr. member
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Decentralize All The Things!
Who gives a flying f*** about what the uninformed masses in the USA thinks?

Here's some more random info, and who knows, some of these claims about the stupidity of the masses might even be true!

- 25% of USAnians don't believe in Darwin's theory of evolution while less than 40% do.
- Two out of five USAnians think teachers should be able to lead prayer in the classroom, despite the fact that the separation of church and state is a foundation of their democracy.
- As of just a few years ago, about half of USAnians still suspected a connection between Saddam Hussein and the attacks of September 11th.
- Nearly one-fifth of Americans think Obama is a Muslim.
- About a decade ago, 20 percent of USAnians still believed that the sun revolves around the earth.


Fred Hoyle, Francis Crick, James Jeans, Robert Jastrow, George Greenstein, Arno Penzias, and Robert Shapiro also don't believe in evolution. Are they stupid people too? You might want to remove this off your list.

If you disregard facts proven again and again by the scientific method and instead choose to believe in made up fairy tales that has no more credibility than santa claus himself, then yes. Or maybe you are just forced to act like you actually believe in such childish nonsense because of your surroundings. Those are about the only two reasons I can think of.
legendary
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give it a few more growth spurt cycles (also incorrectly referred to as bubbles sometimes) and people will become either more positive about bitcoin or greed will drive them to accept it regardless.

either way is fine, eventually they'll learn to love it.

What we learned from the peak in late 2013 is that once bitcoin is at an ATH, newspapers are filled with bitcoin news. This will be even greater in the next growth spurt, as all financial institution already have their eyes on bitcoin at the moment (this was not the case during the previous growth spurts).

So once we are close to $1000 expect a lot of media coverage.
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