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Topic: Sweden the welfare state - I get $1k for doing nothing now - page 2. (Read 1928 times)

newbie
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how long til i become a sweden national and qualify for these benefits?
hero member
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Wow $1000 for staying at home? :O That's insane! Imagine that in my country, that actually is a part of the EU, you get about $500 in a normal, full time job.
In my first full time job, which was shitty by the way, I was getting $300 a month!
Yup, life is very unfair. But $1k is way less here than in your country (which is?) is my guess. The money I get is survival+benifits, I can have fun, go to Stockholm and meet people instead of just surviving - but yes for doing nothing.

It's Poland. I haven't been to Sweden, although it's only 6 hours by ferry from our coast, maybe it's time to move Grin
As for the prices I'm renting a 40m2 flat and it costs me ~500USD a month + food, so I could easily survive on what you're getting. To compare my father's retirement pension (after almost 40 years of work) is ~350USD a month. Embarrassed
How old is he? My granpa is up 80 and he helpt build this country, he is cheap as hell is all I know. Really, save the last drop, don't know what is going on.
I can only imagine he had a factory job. Thats how my dad started his career, dangerous hot stuff (you burn you die work at the age of 15-16 iirc).. Not well payed.

Have no idea what's he riding on. Propably not much.. Sad
I've never been to poland, maybe passed by on plane. What's going on over there, war machines landing stripe or is that moved now? Very close Sweden :S
hero member
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Small Red and Bad
Wow $1000 for staying at home? :O That's insane! Imagine that in my country, that actually is a part of the EU, you get about $500 in a normal, full time job.
In my first full time job, which was shitty by the way, I was getting $300 a month!
Yup, life is very unfair. But $1k is way less here than in your country (which is?) is my guess. The money I get is survival+benifits, I can have fun, go to Stockholm and meet people instead of just surviving - but yes for doing nothing.

It's Poland. I haven't been to Sweden, although it's only 6 hours by ferry from our coast, maybe it's time to move Grin
As for the prices I'm renting a 40m2 flat and it costs me ~500USD a month + food, so I could easily survive on what you're getting. To compare my father's retirement pension (after almost 40 years of work) is ~350USD a month. Embarrassed
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
Wow $1000 for staying at home? :O That's insane! Imagine that in my country, that actually is a part of the EU, you get about $500 in a normal, full time job.
In my first full time job, which was shitty by the way, I was getting $300 a month!
Yup, life is very unfair. But $1k is way less here than in your country (which is?) is my guess. The money I get is survival+benifits, I can have fun, go to Stockholm and meet people instead of just surviving - but yes for doing nothing.
full member
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I'm nothing without GOD
European countries can have these luxurious welfare states and socialistic mentalities because they spend very little on military spending. I don't endorse the former but wish the US would do much less of the latter.

The US can afford to spend on its military. It saddens me when I see developing countries get into arms races spurred on by defence companies from the US/Europe. These countries are made to prioritize security over providing basic necessities to their citizens.

Well a lot of third world nations have had coups. so the thought is you better be prepared when the next civil war comes not saying this is good but I guess that gives some perspective.
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Small Red and Bad
Wow $1000 for staying at home? :O That's insane! Imagine that in my country, that actually is a part of the EU, you get about $500 in a normal, full time job.
In my first full time job, which was shitty by the way, I was getting $300 a month!
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
European countries can have these luxurious welfare states and socialistic mentalities because they spend very little on military spending. I don't endorse the former but wish the US would do much less of the latter.

The US can afford to spend on its military. It saddens me when I see developing countries get into arms races spurred on by defence companies from the US/Europe. These countries are made to prioritize security over providing basic necessities to their citizens.
Oh can it now? http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/, propably not your official site, neither is http://www.usdebtclock.org/ but the point is you have a tremendous debt (it's actually bigger than the amount of money that we have here on earth). Who do you own the debt to? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System the private owned Fed Reserve. If you look within your country you will come to realise that war is the only way you can survive by now (and 10+ years ago).

I don't understand arms race? Are you talking about the private sectors (i.e blackwater)?
this is the truth, the USA is broke broke broke and they just are kicking their economic crisis down the road.
It's going to get bad here sooner than later at this rate. Who knows though, if they keep gas cheap and the celebrity scandals going, no one may even notice.
Keep people busy with plane crashes, "terrorism boston bombings, and just good old CNN overall". It's not only US that's broke it's every ally to them (name a couple of countries who aren't in debt and who are licking the US ass. EU is broke, we live on pretend cash, they say Germany had it tough with money after WW II well take a close look at what's really going on..
The money they had to pay with were standing in currency to gold (correct me if I am wrong here), the money we have is called petrodollar, or pretenddollar, whatever floats your boat.

I am not arguing with you but agreeing, I've seen some of the US commercials and it's sickening tbh - notice what? Smiley
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I don't understand arms race? Are you talking about the private sectors (i.e blackwater)?

No, I was talking about countries like India and Pakistan spending large amounts of money on their defence budgets.
India's spending on defence is 2.5% of GDP, which is higher than China, UK and France.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

Ah I see. Yeah nice try but f*ck you we have drones - I understand that India is expanding their defenses considering how close to the war zone it is, I don't know much about this arms race tbh, I dont care for war but there is one I am willing to fight to the death - the one that will be fought for my own believes, and that's not fucking paper money or black gold.

But a thing I learned some time ago is never trust a Wikipedia link (I know I linked them too), they often are faulty or have very vague sources. FYI I am from Sweden and I have never heard of Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (for real, didn't know we had such a thing, now I realize why we aren't in NATO Wink )
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European countries can have these luxurious welfare states and socialistic mentalities because they spend very little on military spending. I don't endorse the former but wish the US would do much less of the latter.

The US can afford to spend on its military. It saddens me when I see developing countries get into arms races spurred on by defence companies from the US/Europe. These countries are made to prioritize security over providing basic necessities to their citizens.
Oh can it now? http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/, propably not your official site, neither is http://www.usdebtclock.org/ but the point is you have a tremendous debt (it's actually bigger than the amount of money that we have here on earth). Who do you own the debt to? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System the private owned Fed Reserve. If you look within your country you will come to realise that war is the only way you can survive by now (and 10+ years ago).

I don't understand arms race? Are you talking about the private sectors (i.e blackwater)?
this is the truth, the USA is broke broke broke and they just are kicking their economic crisis down the road.
It's going to get bad here sooner than later at this rate. Who knows though, if they keep gas cheap and the celebrity scandals going, no one may even notice.
hero member
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Merit: 500
I don't understand arms race? Are you talking about the private sectors (i.e blackwater)?

No, I was talking about countries like India and Pakistan spending large amounts of money on their defence budgets.
India's spending on defence is 2.5% of GDP, which is higher than China, UK and France.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
European countries can have these luxurious welfare states and socialistic mentalities because they spend very little on military spending. I don't endorse the former but wish the US would do much less of the latter.

The US can afford to spend on its military. It saddens me when I see developing countries get into arms races spurred on by defence companies from the US/Europe. These countries are made to prioritize security over providing basic necessities to their citizens.
Oh can it now? http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/, propably not your official site, neither is http://www.usdebtclock.org/ but the point is you have a tremendous debt (it's actually bigger than the amount of money that we have here on earth). Who do you own the debt to? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System the private owned Fed Reserve. If you look within your country you will come to realise that war is the only way you can survive by now (and 10+ years ago).

I don't understand arms race? Are you talking about the private sectors (i.e blackwater)?
hero member
Activity: 675
Merit: 500
European countries can have these luxurious welfare states and socialistic mentalities because they spend very little on military spending. I don't endorse the former but wish the US would do much less of the latter.

The US can afford to spend on its military. It saddens me when I see developing countries get into arms races spurred on by defence companies from the US/Europe. These countries are made to prioritize security over providing basic necessities to their citizens.
hero member
Activity: 490
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I don't see why people think these is a good thing all it does is create a entitled people who cant help themselves in the real world.
I think people should get help but you gotta give up at a certain point.. I think your way to look at things are a bit harsh but in reality a system like this doesn't work when unemployement rise to soon to be what Spain was a few years ago. Getting a job young was hard enough when I quit upper secondary school, I am good at writing but was a bit too shy I guess.
Searched 300+ jobs but didn't do the footwork (visit companies and brag), the department for people to get a job in Sweden is a joke (arbetsförmedlingen). The main problem is they only teach what to do on paper, they want you to sit at their computers and look for a job but as a company owner who do you take? The guy who knocks on the door and says fuck man I'll work my ass off for you or the 500 mails they recive? Help is given but in the wrong way, I think I deserve a decent life but I am trying at least.. I know many people who aren't trying/given up and when you give up you are nothing but a parasite.

I know a few people that I am 100% sure 2/3 are going to die before they hit 50, I've lost 4 friends already, maybe 1 of them could have been saved? If you hadn't guessed already I am talking about addicts, that subject is tough. In the end it's up to yourself to quit and I am going to hit rehab for the 2nd time (all expenses paid!), take what I learned from the first rehab and try to get routines (always been lacking this since I found gaming)..
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I'm nothing without GOD
I don't see why people think these is a good thing all it does is create a entitled people who cant help themselves in the real world.
hero member
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How would that make me happier? Living on the street? But the facts that I can't work for a year from a certain point (can't as in not allowed) is that not pretty weird? Maybe I pull myself up on my feet in 6 months but then I can't work because of this program, and of course it costs the gorernment a lot and our debt grows (all this welfare together with having the biggest (or top 3 at least) immigrants per capita in Europe makes things cost a pretty penny.

Dude, you live in best fucking country in the world, people worries with you, they pay you so you don't have to work and you can have the time to get well and you're fucking complaining the system is fucked up?
Can't you see how this one day is going to collapse? The system only works for that long when unemployment rates are going up, immigration stream keeps on comming. Our national debt is over $200 000 000 000, and it keeps rising - just like the rest of the countries in the west.
hero member
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European countries can have these luxurious welfare states and socialistic mentalities because they spend very little on military spending. I don't endorse the former but wish the US would do much less of the latter.
Well defense wise we don't have much. But we have officers in Afghanistan still ordering air strikes, we have drone programs, we may not be part of NATO on paper but we are when it comes down to it. It's costing us money as well with military spending.
newbie
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How would that make me happier? Living on the street? But the facts that I can't work for a year from a certain point (can't as in not allowed) is that not pretty weird? Maybe I pull myself up on my feet in 6 months but then I can't work because of this program, and of course it costs the gorernment a lot and our debt grows (all this welfare together with having the biggest (or top 3 at least) immigrants per capita in Europe makes things cost a pretty penny.

Dude, you live in best fucking country in the world, people worries with you, they pay you so you don't have to work and you can have the time to get well and you're fucking complaining the system is fucked up?
legendary
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European countries can have these luxurious welfare states and socialistic mentalities because they spend very little on military spending. I don't endorse the former but wish the US would do much less of the latter.
hero member
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Are you complaining about something or would you rather be homeless and suck dick for money?
I think the system is fucked. Your world view seems very black or white, I don't deserve that much free money because of a diagnose that on paper says I have social faulties but am more intelligent than the avarage.

So, your community wants to help you and complain it's too much help?

I'm pretty sure you can return the money and terminate your benefits, if that would make you happier, go for it.
How would that make me happier? Living on the street? But the facts that I can't work for a year from a certain point (can't as in not allowed) is that not pretty weird? Maybe I pull myself up on my feet in 6 months but then I can't work because of this program, and of course it costs the gorernment a lot and our debt grows (all this welfare together with having the biggest (or top 3 at least) immigrants per capita in Europe makes things cost a pretty penny.
newbie
Activity: 18
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Are you complaining about something or would you rather be homeless and suck dick for money?
I think the system is fucked. Your world view seems very black or white, I don't deserve that much free money because of a diagnose that on paper says I have social faulties but am more intelligent than the avarage.

So, your community wants to help you and complain it's too much help?

I'm pretty sure you can return the money and terminate your benefits, if that would make you happier, go for it.
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