Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 1064. (Read 3050071 times)

Grainger, McMaster Carr, even ebay.

I agree that each hour is relevant to ROI.
The statement was meant in regards to:
 The knowledge what's happening doesn't make things happen faster.

If shipped today then some would have the modules by tomorrow. If shipped by tomorrow no one would have them before monday (except for pick-up of course) as UPS does not deliver on saturday unless paid to do so.

So it makes a difference...just saying. (0.27 BTC per Module for the weekend)

I'm wondering why there's no trackingID out in the wild for upgrade modules, too.

Bitcoinorama, may I ask for the reason(s) why KnC didn't ship them until now ?
Sure it won't make it into customer hands any earlier, but with background info there's less/no speculation, complaints or allegations (I guess).
Would be really nice to let us know.  

The circumstance that there's an item 'in stock' and nobody knows when it's actually being shipped - and this in a market where time is a very important factor - demands for complaints and negative posts. Some brief info could get rid of it.
Just image what shitstorm Apl would face when they sell online the ayFone7 as 'in stock' and after 2 days, no one has a clue when it ships. And there's no ROI at all for a mobile afaik..


You have to admit that KnC is heading for negative PR somehow when they say
   "All items are in stock and will be packaged and shipped this week via UPS" (details page upgrade module)
in addition with statements like
   "Time to market is everything in this business after all" (news-36)
   "in bitcoin time is money" (news-44)
and then do not ship immediately.

It would have been way smarter to put on details page "will be shipped next week via UPS".
Then start shipping on Friday.

*edit:
Or even put the boards in boxes ready to be shipped, before putting the item in the webshop.
Then with each order paid a shipping label is printed and attached to a package.
UPS then picks up all boxes ready until the point in time when they ring the bell.

Thank you. Now I have to find where I can buy these metal sheets from.

How can you guarantee any KNC mining purchase you make would positive-ROI in 30 days? I would love to see the math on this. Unless I missed some part of the convo on another page.

Ok kids when are these upgrade boards going to start to ship?

Most people bought 2 so we are talking about no more than 125 boxes going out the door.

Promise was "this week"

Difficulty will be > 610M in three days, so it's 128% in 32 days. Nevertheless, I understand and congratulate your happiness, it's not all in the money, mining is a joy.

naw I'm keeping the coins...(what the heck you only live once)...if Bitcoin thrives I'll do ok....if bitcoin goes the way of beanie babies...I'll have a good laugh in later years at my youthful follies..most of my initial bitcoin investment is from getting rid of stuff from the attic on ebay from 20yrs of collecting (apple ii stuff game of thrones swords that kinda thing) ...so if this don't work out ..bitcoin that is ..I can have an 'Eureka" moment and be closer to "enlightenment" in the eastern tradition ie...simplfy also works if you sell crap and lose all .... I'll get a zen like appreciation of the simple life (what the heck got my attic back now have a 4 bedroom house vs 3 bedroom on paper with worth of house it is probably a wash anyway in a few years if BTC goes ker-plunk)

imho a lot of us are holding (foolish of otherwise  we will see) that and speculation imho is keeping the price up. imho its China the Chinese middle class in the regulated economy there has little options to get rid of extra cash ..real estate which is bloated or so far bitcoin....seems like a good bet to a lot of them their as an option I think

Searing

you can use mb studs that came with a case (just have to drill a smaller hole and force them to fit in )
maybe you can fit then between the front and back fan you have to see if they feet on the side or on the top of the case and remove the tunnel
if the cables are long enough and you have the ports on the controller you can try , if not a sheet of aluminum and add 6 of them like in the pictures from the datacenter

a few days ago I've cashed out circa 75% of jup day1 value. I didn't use cards/loans to buy my miner. The thing is that I'm quite risk adverse despite the fact that I'm dealing with btc all day long

So this question is for those of you who paid with credit cards/bank loans and have reached "break-even" status.

Are you selling the coins at current prices to pay off the owed/remaining amount and take that off your back or are you holding in hopes that the price keeps climbing and do it later when higher?

I'll crimp it with a small hammer.

This matches my experience my unit was received on Oct 18th and as of today (due to ludicrously high BTC rate of today of 447 mtgox and 410 bitstamp.net...at least on paper (I have no plans to cash in) I blasted well past my ROI of $7131.80 (with shipping) in 26 days ....but I think the guy you quote has real problems with his equipment also if I read it right..

anyway lots of Chinese investment $$$ flowing into BTC ...so they can speculate on land purchases or BTC not much else....in their regulated economy....hoping the bored middle class in Asia continues to pump this BTC up.............(of course now that I think I made ROI even on paper it will all go "pop" and btc will freefall...we are talking about "me" don't ya know ..)...wanders off listening for the other shoe to fall so to speak


Searing

You need to factor in that I paid June 2nd, and was the first paypal order......
order 5x..... but mine was just as late as yours, The early preorder folks were all promised by end of september early on, but thats not really my point.....  If you can't pull ROI on a KNC device within 30 days...., something is wrong with your methods maybe...  because even if I got one today, it would still ROI in short order.....why do you think ten thousand people tried for 140gh/s boards @ a grand?...... because they know.

Also this
'tuning suite" that KNC talks about coming out may help considerably....if you can 'tweak' each individual unit to its optimal via such controls...perhaps it will all even out and raise the overall hashrate in a "stable' manner....I myself have left my stuff on .95..but if I could adjust individually I may take a chance on such an upgrade (maybe    not sure in that  cowardice seems to work for me ...and the colder the better my Jupiter seems to run...opposite of phoenix's setup ...)

He most definitely is lucky. I received my 2 Jupiters 2 weeks later than the 15th promised date and with 3 bad boards that I had to RMA to KNC who will not ship replacement boards UNTIL they receive the faulty ones. I will never see even ROI in BTC with my miners and will only see positive ROI in USD if the price keeps going up. I really do envy Phoenix.

Thanks guys!

i will have a look in and around them vrms as i think that is whats occurred, before the issue i saw the same chip reach >80C

i tried heating the entire area which did raise Gh/s but only temporarily.

Im also waiting hopefully for a better fw or at least to see what the 'tuning suite' will be capable of.

Thx again, if you have the time, a close up of the most obvious areas to check for cracking would be very much appreciated.

an iron and some solder would be entirely doable.

Phoenix, you must be ONE lucky guy. The only one in your boat.

That would probably be the easiest method. I attempted to remove one of those studs and they seem to be epoxied/welded in. Also, if you look on the bottom, there is a sort of hexagon base to them which makes me think they are custom made. They are also of the finer threading. Standard mobo standoffs do not work as they have the more coarse threads.

One thing to note however, I discovered that adding a 5th board to my perfectly running Jupiter actually caused it to run at over 100Gh/s slower than having that 5th board in a separate miner (I have 2 Jups, but had to send 3 boards back for RMA). I know KNC stated that their system was supposed to be able to handle at least 1Th/s, but I've found this not to be true. It may just be a firmware thing though. The 5th board caused 5 Dies to not come online (low current issue) that otherwise work fine.