Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 1116. (Read 3050068 times)

I sleep 2 feet from my machines.... not bad at all....

They are as quiet as 6 fans at 1350rpm can be. So yeah - not silent, but rather quiet

Drico, it's great.
Yet the log going down is a bit unusual.
If you can mimic all (or most) of what cgminer displays, do it - people will have full cgminer view at browser window without the necessity of ssh.

I looked at youtube videos of jupiters. these things are much quieter than a BFL 60, right?

"This video is currently unavailable."

How does it affect memory (RAM) use? As I am already having cgminer killed periodically by lack of RAM so anythign that makes the system use less could be useful but bloating the RAM use to get graphical dials on a web page would seem counterproductive given that RAM is a scarce resource and running out of it can lose mining-time.

(Totally getting rid of the whole webserver / webpage stuff entirely might be much more productive even, maybe...)

-MarkM-

hey it is not likely...but actually that is what they kinda have to do ...even before they decide to "design the chip" or other parts of the next generation product...daunting task with how nuts things are lately imho

Searing

Come one don't be so naive - there are a lot more than 5 people, who had or still have problems. Just head over to KNC forum and see for yourself.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/old-bitcoin-auction-1000000-btc-starting-bid-5000-usd-92


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Good thing you invested a lot of cash in asic hardware with no proof and you are unable to solve your problems and cry like a bitch.

So final count was 5 (FIVE) people with problems right now out of the ~3000 customers or whatever was the number. Good job KnC i say!

HAHAH YES

i think that the man owner the pizza store
is closed now

 

Tell that to the guy who bought a pizza for 10K BTC 

someone which have btc from 2009 in these forum
i think is real rich!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But it was a custom car! Cars are hardware!

Oops, not mining hardware though.

So what the heck lets outright ask...

Biomech, are you long bitcoin?

Or did you mean if you had bitcoins you'd blow them on mining gear but don't even have as many bitcoin as a rig cost then or even as it would cost now?

-MarkM-

If he wants to talk fantasy or strategy, there are plenty of other places on the forum for that.

He plague's this thread on a daily basis with his fantasy and judgments - take it somewhere else. It's got nothing to do with custom hardware. Only the fact that he's got a boner for something he can't afford.

If BTC hits $500 within the next week or two, and Knc is still taking November orders, I'll probably put some BTC towards another Jupiter as well.

I wonder when Knc will cut off November orders?

It's also plausible that they are manufacturing November orders right now and simply holding back shipment until the 15th. We could see a lot of hashing power hit the network in the third week of November.

I think he (Biomech) sounds correct, especially if you pay attention to the part about being long on bitcoin.

He didn't say bullish, he said long.

It even seems possible that he didn't mean he didn't have the number of bitcoins it would have taken to buy a miner but simply that he was not long enough on bitcoin to buy a miner and still be long in bitcoins relative to how long he'd have become in ASICs.

If you have shitloads of bitcoin already, enough that bitcoin going to $1000 a coin isn't going to leave you thinking damn I should have saved just a few more coins instead of playing the mining game, then going long on ASIC tech in addition to staying long on bitcoins sounds not unreasonable at all.

If bitcoin had gone up to $1000 in the last few days instead of not having even reached $500 yet I'd have snapped up another Jupiter most likely, because we are on the get there for real followup wave following the bubble to $266 that happened a while ago. So even up at $500+ I'd expect a crash back down to $266 or below because I expect a bubble up to the next big step or plateau above the $266 previous high-water-mark first before a get there (the next big step above $266) for real wave. So somewhere up here above $266 I am going to be thinking hey we are into the next bubble already instead of merely being up at the got there ($266) for real plateau signaled long ago by the $266 bubble. Maybe the next bubble is coming so soon after climbing back to $266 because it took so long for the climb back, or something.

So maybe at around $500 I will buy a Jupiter rather than find myself regretting not having done so when the bubble crashes back to $266, maybe momentarily even below that, then settles at around $266 or somewhere above that. But settle at $500? I doubt that, a bubble all the way to $1000+ without stopping at $500 seems more likely based on previous bubble activity. Still maybe crashing all the way back to $266 or even momentarily below. So I am kind of thinking the top of the bubble is the moment to go long ASIC while bitcoins still buy a lot of ASIC... Others maybe had thought aha we are at the $266+ plateau, might as well buy now, its going to hover here for gosh knows how long before the next bubble, thus already snapped up a november jupiter in last few days maybe before noticing hey another bubble might be here already lets see how high it goes before snapping up some more ASIC.

Remember, holding bitcoins and mining are both wild exciting rides, so I'd not take his car story as implying throw all your bitcoins into mining gear but rather as throw all your fiat into getting long on bitcoins and if you have money left over go long mining gear too for the sheer heck of it if buying a rig or few won't be a big bite out of your bitcoin long-ness. (Heck it is what percent of your bitcoin to buy a rig or few? Why have shitloads of bitcoins if not to enjoy spending some when they peak in exchange rate? What would be more fun to spend a few on than a rally car or a mining rig?)

-MarkM-

Tell us more Mr. Businessman.

Man, you are so full of shit. You haven't invested a penny in asic hardware and you come out with statements like this. You are living in a dream world, with zero skin in the game.

And the fact you can't come up with a few grand to invest suggests you are a loser, with no real business skills, just a lot of talk.

Why don't you sell everything you have and buy some hardware, then we might be able to take a single word you say seriously? Otherwise, take your soap box and fuck off.

Some of us are playing the long game. As the value of bitcoin rises, it will hopefully offset the difficulty increases. Right now, based on bitcoin prices when the units were first offered for pre-order, you are making more money IN SPITE of the increase than if it had remained the same or driopped. Difficulty is only one factor.

Plus, mining is fun. Not all profits are tangible. If I find a way to lay my hands on one of these machines, I'll run the bitch until it's costing me twice what it brings in in coin. Probably longer, as I am well versed in building off grid power systems. If bitcoin becomes widely adopted as a currency or a commodity, it's value will continue to rise, and those "expensive" coins I mined will appreciate in purchasing power long after the miner has ceased to function.

Frankly, if you are not long on bitcoin, you probably should find a different vehicle to invest your time and money on. If you are, and you are not terminally risk averse, this is a fun and potentially VERY profitable game. I have pissed away a lot more money in the past on things that didn't return any money to me, or if it did I just sunk it in the game again. Racing in the mountains for instance... In the late 80's I probably blew through more than 50K (1988 money) in one summer. Some of it was winnings, which I could have used for something more "profitable", but I instead put it back into my car. Over the course of a year, I killed that car. An outside observer would almost certainly say that I gained nothing and made a bad series of decisions with my money. They would be wrong. I had an immense amount of fun, I learned how to do things with four cylinder engines that at the time almost nobody was doing, I learned how to drive at an insane skill level, and did I mention? I had an immense amount of fun.

Would I do it again, given the same circumstances? Even given the perspective of half a lifetime since then?

HELL YES!

Profit is gain, and every man measures his profit by his own criteria. Money is only one score. If money is your only goal, then you probably are not going to be interested in bleeding edge risks. If it's merely part of the score, then you're in the right game. Even from the sidelines, this is exhilarating. I wouldn't miss it for a 20 kilo bar of gold.