Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 1346. (Read 3050074 times)

Thank you for asking.  I'm a little surprised that it's not obvious to you.  I would be perfectly happy to be in your shoes, but I'm not.  My hardware is sitting in a stack gathering dust while Sam et. al. feverishly work to solve all of the problems in the world.  All that I can do is sit on my hands or ask in every way imaginable that Sam just box up what he's got and SHIP IT.  I knew there would be bumps in the road, but never imagined that they would simply sit on the goods while they scratch their heads.

While I know this isn't the standard case, I did in fact receive my Jup on 10/4 and it has been running flawlessly ever since.  Right now, it is hashing at 540gh/s on average on bitminter.  Thats far over what I originally 'reserved' back in April...  Something like 2x the speed.  I would not hesitate to order from this company again in the future.  Mining is a zero sum game, any additional unit that is shipped results in me losing bitcoins.  Why do you think people aren't lining up to sing praise for the organization?

Off topic alert.

Most people are in the middle. If you have a system that rewards productivity (capitalism) then it pushes people in the middle to prosper. If you have a system that rewards laziness (socialism) then it encourages people in the middle to freeload.

And I'm gay for only having 25GH invested.

you're referring to this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3294238 right?

it is quite annoying also with normal pool that work with stratum. Everytime a block is found you got this on your cgminer:



and your hashrate promptly decrease and it takes time to climb up again to normar rate.

Good 2 cents.
I imagine if they hadn't been standalone we'd have them by now.

Yes, that is all true!


Our monetary system is designed to work that way in the circle of only one group of values. But! This is not with all human values, meaning, every day there is more and more people born who don't think that way. Some of them does and some of them does not!

Those who are born with values which are the same as in our monetary system, that is - expediency, methodicality, time management, punctuality, analyst, discovering connections, causes, good prediction, order and so on - those will have pretty good life and they won't need to do as much as others. They will easy gain education and will be in the center of activity. There also exists two more groups of values. The people who are born inside of those two groups, will be left behind. They will do as the first group decide, they will have to be "at that time on work, they will work as planed, they will be punished, for not respecting the rules, they will be living in the world full of rules, which create people who thinks with value from group one.

The most funny thing is, the people who are in the first group, they don't know that, they create rules only for themselves-like people

KNC products don't work well with p2pool.  They didn't design work restarts properly, you will lose a lot of work and money.  If you have a KNC product, and want to use p2pool, contact them and ask them to fix it.

Difficulty isn't going up that fast.  Original estimates was a 100% jump after KNC delivered but the graph only shows a slight increase over the 25-30% jumps.   I was upset when KNC did not deliver when they said and I paid an extra $4400 for hosting two units that were not hashing DAY 1.  Once KNC fixed the issue and continue to make improvements I became less upset and more appreciative to the company that has made it so far and has delivered.   I don't think you can name another ASIC company that compares.  (Not to take away from BitFury, but I just have not read much about them).  

I'm waiting for my 2nd hosted to hash above 350 and customer support said the next firmware goes out tonight or tomorrow morning.  This should fix the issue.  

Good luck.

Orama,
There is nothing that you or I can say that will change the truth.  It is what it is.  The truth is that this thread is the primary conduit for the expression and resolution of issues in the KNC community.  While OrSoc's contribution to this endeavor has been an extreme success, KNC's contributions have been almost exclusively failiures.

Some of these are:
Sam's misguided estimation that 100% of us can't find our asses with both hands.  He imagines a market for those who want a turnkey, idiot proof mining machine no matter how long it takes.  Very few of us fit that profile.
Total ignorance of repeated requests to 'just ship the boards'.  We'll join in and help make them work.  (That pesky open source thing).

Then, there are the one's he might admit:
Shipping assembled top-heavy fans despite strong warnings.
Light crushed boxes save the machine theory.
Underpromise means maintain radio silence.
Over deliver means whatever you want it to mean, subject to change at will.
The only real value that he has to sell is the asics and controller boards.  He would have nothing but elated customers if he would just sell and support them.  Forget the cases, assembly, hosting, especially the pool.  These have all created nothing but ill will.
Most of all, he doesn't realize that the people in this forum are the source of his millions.  We put him in that spot and we can take him out.

My 2 cents

An article the other day, perhaps on Hacker News, noted that the top US CEOs earn in the time it takes them to take a piss what a minimum a wage worker earns in 4 years.  So obviously over time, their income increases, more than keeps up with rising costs, while lowly workers lose.

so it's ending up in rich man's pockets
http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/10/09/creditsuisse-wealth-idINDEE9980ER20131009

"with the richest 10 percent owning 86 percent of the wealth"

Well if you make a compare between the people who are first and later, what do you say about comparing the people who can (have money, exclude people who paid with BTC) buy ASIC miners and people who cannot afford this ?

This is our world. The money will anyway find a way, to more money

Well that's also true. After all most got more bang for the buck, problem is that the first people getting their KnC stuff is making diff raise higher for us left behind. Well well. 100GH for free isn't bad. And also it's not Oct 15th today either.. Think they are rushing as hell today.

People is worrying about the late shipping with cause them loss.
but i think if they send you a Jupiter as they promise at the day you paid like 2 W/GH/s and 300 even 400gh/s
that is a absolutely loss for today difficulty.
so i think it is still fair even they ship late
when we look at the bfl buyer, we should be glad because KNC is not a company like that

PS : agree all ASIC companies has no customer service skills
PS : i have three  Jupiter working atm (preorder 2000 + order 250)
PS : sorry for my poor english

and PSU manufacturers...

In a gold rush, only the people making shovels make money.

KNC just like all ASIC companies are bunch of engineers without any customer service skills.

No one here is speaking for KNC in an official capacity.

In less than 24 hours KNC will have missed their deadline without any official word from KNC

Sadly without any official word many customers will ask for a refund because their investment will not be recovered and again another ASIC company will succeed in making themselves money and fail in making their customers money.

'orama, I appreciate all your help in trying to communicate but you don't work for the company and don't speak for them in an official nature,
The best thing you can do is leverage your relationship with the owners and let them know that you can no longer speak for them and someone in an official capacity needs to get online before 10/15 deadline and explain what their intentions are to make customers whole.


thoughts???

I have not had any downtime on my hosted units hooked up to BTCGuild

I'm hosted, so I am guessing that is the issue, but I don't know. No word from KnC why hosting customers are not moving forward.

The KnCMiner list of orders -October delivery page is showing In Progress status goes as high as order #38xx, while other #38xx orders and all listed higher don't indicate status.