Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 1535.

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Quote from: vesperwillow on September 30, 2013, 11:27:04 AM

Quote from: rizzman on September 30, 2013, 11:26:05 AM

Sure, all they have to do is plug one up and read the numbers for 5 minutes... is that it?.. no

My guess is They are getting a baseline from multiple rigs to ensure that when they announce the speed that the Crumbs of the world don't criticize them of lying due to speaking too early about the average of their machines.

If one thing this weekend should have taught is that alittle patients goes a long way..

Patience even

Damn you Google swipe...you fail me again!

Good catch

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Quote from: Paladin69 on September 30, 2013, 11:43:30 AM

Quote from: Spelon on September 30, 2013, 11:21:18 AM

Quote from: vesperwillow on September 30, 2013, 11:16:48 AM

> 600 GH oc capabilities? Is that what I picked up from the hints?

You will need some modifications then. The four pcie connectors can deliver 150w x 4 for a total of max 600w. A standard 4pin molex can deliver 132w per atx specifications. If you rely on the rumored 1.4w/GH, that would give your miner a maximum theoretical of 732w/1.4w = 522.85 GH. If you want more, you´re going to have to solder some extra 8pin pcie connectors in there somewhere.

Something about this doesn't make sense. Why would KnC cap their ability to 600w? Back when they knew their chip was at least 100GH and the assumed rate was 1.6w per gh, that would be 640w needed for four chips.

KnC isn't dumb, before they ship I'm sure they will use 8-pin connectors if they need them.

They didn't. The power circuitry can handle substantially more, the 6-pin pcie connector rating is *worst case spec*, which doesn't mean that connector manufacturers can't exceed the spec. There's also an unpopulated spot for another 6-pin connector on the PC board.

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Quote from: sickpig on September 30, 2013, 11:26:31 AM

Quote from: Spelon on September 30, 2013, 11:21:18 AM

You will need some modifications then. The four pcie connectors can deliver 150w x 4 for a total of max 600w. A standard 4pin molex can deliver 132w per atx specifications. If you rely on the rumored 1.4w/GH, that would give your miner a maximum theoretical of 732w/1.4w = 522.85 GH. If you want more, you´re going to have to solder some extra 8pin pcie connectors in there somewhere.

Here I see 6 sockets in the PCB

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-39

These sockets are for Serial data (SPI probably), nothing to do with current. That specification 1.4w per GHs is actually KnC's weakest point, Bitfury proved <1w/GHs and HashFast & CoinTerra declared 0.6-0.7w/GHs.

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Quote from: sbfree on September 30, 2013, 11:43:00 AM

Quote from: btc_uzr on September 30, 2013, 11:40:14 AM

Quote from: sbfree on September 30, 2013, 11:32:07 AM

Quote from: btc_uzr on September 30, 2013, 11:07:49 AM

(...)

I wasn't asking for numbers, I was asking WHETHER changing the clockspeed is possible at all

I don't know diddley, but from what I remember, these guys programmed their software, I imagine they have a "turbo" at your own risk button, jumpers voltage setting something.....

Thanks, since you want to be helpful, but why speculate if Bitcoinorama could clearfy it.
I'd be happy about a short yes or a little disappointed about a short no from KnC or Bitcoinorama - but unlucky with an ignore of my serious question.

I assume I'm not the first one asking and not the only one asking as it concerns the ROI of all customers, no?

I used to build custom harleys from the ground up back in the day, and just because I finished a build didn't mean I ran and claimed victory. I had to RIDE THAT SUCKA for a little while anyway....once it passed my abuse it was ready for the open road...ahhh the gold ole days.

..but you were able to say 'yes/no/will not disclose it' to a question concerning modification of fuel and kWh relation

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Quote from: Spelon on September 30, 2013, 11:21:18 AM

Quote from: vesperwillow on September 30, 2013, 11:16:48 AM

> 600 GH oc capabilities? Is that what I picked up from the hints?

You will need some modifications then. The four pcie connectors can deliver 150w x 4 for a total of max 600w. A standard 4pin molex can deliver 132w per atx specifications. If you rely on the rumored 1.4w/GH, that would give your miner a maximum theoretical of 732w/1.4w = 522.85 GH. If you want more, you´re going to have to solder some extra 8pin pcie connectors in there somewhere.

Something about this doesn't make sense. Why would KnC cap their ability to 600w? Back when they knew their chip was at least 100GH and the assumed rate was 1.6w per gh, that would be 640w needed for four chips.

KnC isn't dumb, before they ship I'm sure they will use 8-pin connectors if they need them.

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quack

Possibly with some soldering overvolting is possible. Or if it's got external clock...

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Quote from: btc_uzr on September 30, 2013, 11:40:14 AM

Quote from: sbfree on September 30, 2013, 11:32:07 AM

Quote from: btc_uzr on September 30, 2013, 11:07:49 AM

(...)

I wasn't asking for numbers, I was asking WHETHER changing the clockspeed is possible at all

I don't know diddley, but from what I remember, these guys programmed their software, I imagine they have a "turbo" at your own risk button, jumpers voltage setting something.....

Thanks, since you want to be helpful, but why speculate if Bitcoinorama could clearfy it.
I'd be happy about a short yes or a little disappointed about a short no from KnC or Bitcoinorama - but unlucky with an ignore of my serious question.

I assume I'm not the first one asking and not the only one asking as it concerns the ROI of all customers, no?

I used to build custom harleys from the ground up back in the day, and just because I finished a build didn't mean I ran and claimed victory. I had to RIDE THAT SUCKA for a little while anyway....once it passed my abuse it was ready for the open road...ahhh the gold ole days.

btc_uzr

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let's have some fun

Quote from: sbfree on September 30, 2013, 11:32:07 AM

Quote from: btc_uzr on September 30, 2013, 11:07:49 AM

(...)

I wasn't asking for numbers, I was asking WHETHER changing the clockspeed is possible at all

I don't know diddley, but from what I remember, these guys programmed their software, I imagine they have a "turbo" at your own risk button, jumpers voltage setting something.....

Thanks, since you want to be helpful, but why speculate if Bitcoinorama could clearify it. (edit: 'not allowed to disclose' is ok with me, too)
I'd be happy about a short yes or a little disappointed about a short no from KnC or Bitcoinorama - but unlucky with an ignore of my serious question.

I assume I'm not the first one asking and not the only one asking as it concerns the ROI of all customers, no?

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gotta let a coin be a coin

Quote from: yolo2424 on September 30, 2013, 11:21:56 AM

Quote from: dextryn on September 30, 2013, 11:10:55 AM

Quote from: btc_uzr on September 30, 2013, 11:09:17 AM

honestly, the black haired guy looks not happy Undecided

He's probably friggin tired

Agreed, you can see he has big eye rings from undersleeping and overdelivering.

Where's the dude with the whip? WORK HARDER!!!!!

Spelon

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Quote from: sickpig on September 30, 2013, 11:26:31 AM

Quote from: Spelon on September 30, 2013, 11:21:18 AM

Quote from: vesperwillow on September 30, 2013, 11:16:48 AM

> 600 GH oc capabilities? Is that what I picked up from the hints?

You will need some modifications then. The four pcie connectors can deliver 150w x 4 for a total of max 600w. A standard 4pin molex can deliver 132w per atx specifications. If you rely on the rumored 1.4w/GH, that would give your miner a maximum theoretical of 732w/1.4w = 522.85 GH. If you want more, you´re going to have to solder some extra 8pin pcie connectors in there somewhere.

Here I see 6 sockets in the PCB

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-39

How will they fit six chips into that case? Looks like four coolers is about what you can get in there, unless you get some extension cables, build on levels and go with water cooled heat sinks.

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Quote from: sickpig on September 30, 2013, 11:26:31 AM

Quote from: Spelon on September 30, 2013, 11:21:18 AM

Quote from: vesperwillow on September 30, 2013, 11:16:48 AM

> 600 GH oc capabilities? Is that what I picked up from the hints?

You will need some modifications then. The four pcie connectors can deliver 150w x 4 for a total of max 600w. A standard 4pin molex can deliver 132w per atx specifications. If you rely on the rumored 1.4w/GH, that would give your miner a maximum theoretical of 732w/1.4w = 522.85 GH. If you want more, you´re going to have to solder some extra 8pin pcie connectors in there somewhere.

Here I see 6 sockets in the PCB

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-39

glad most high end PSUs come with 6

or there will be a lot of grumbling exchanges soon...

sbfree

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Quote from: btc_uzr on September 30, 2013, 11:07:49 AM

Quote from: ASIC-K on September 30, 2013, 11:06:22 AM

Quote from: btc_uzr on September 30, 2013, 11:04:57 AM

Quote from: ASIC-K on September 30, 2013, 11:02:45 AM

Quote from: btc_uzr on September 30, 2013, 10:46:32 AM

Quote from: ASIC-K on September 30, 2013, 10:39:57 AM

Quote from: btc_uzr on September 30, 2013, 10:39:21 AM

Bitcoinorama any news regarding clockspeed ?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3269619

he probably cant say yet, give the man some time!!!

as it seems to be, he only needs to ask any of those guys next to him
so some minutes should be enough - at least for a short 'not allowed to disclose' or 'yes/no'

you dont seem to understand what i mean.

exactly, and I admit it hereby - so enlighten me, please

they have probably already told him "dont mention hash rates etc blah blah....until we tell you too." its not hard to understand.
Plus he already DID say there is stuff he cant disclose. im sorry you cant read.

I wasn't asking for numbers, I was asking WHETHER changing the clockspeed is possible at all

I don't know diddley, but from what I remember, these guys programmed their software, I imagine they have a "turbo" at your own risk button, jumpers voltage setting something.....

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Quote from: rizzman on September 30, 2013, 11:26:05 AM

Sure, all they have to do is plug one up and read the numbers for 5 minutes... is that it?.. no

My guess is They are getting a baseline from multiple rigs to ensure that when they announce the speed that the Crumbs of the world don't criticize them of lying due to speaking too early about the average of their machines.

If one thing this weekend should have taught is that alittle patients goes a long way..

Patience even

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Quote from: Spelon on September 30, 2013, 11:21:18 AM

Quote from: vesperwillow on September 30, 2013, 11:16:48 AM

> 600 GH oc capabilities? Is that what I picked up from the hints?

You will need some modifications then. The four pcie connectors can deliver 150w x 4 for a total of max 600w. A standard 4pin molex can deliver 132w per atx specifications. If you rely on the rumored 1.4w/GH, that would give your miner a maximum theoretical of 732w/1.4w = 522.85 GH. If you want more, you´re going to have to solder some extra 8pin pcie connectors in there somewhere.

Here I see 6 sockets in the PCB

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-39

rizzman

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Sure, all they have to do is plug one up and read the numbers for 5 minutes... is that it?.. no

My guess is They are getting a baseline from multiple rigs to ensure that when they announce the speed that the Crumbs of the world don't criticize them of lying due to speaking too early about the average of their machines.

If one thing this weekend should have taught is that alittle patients goes a long way..

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Quote from: jungle_dave on September 30, 2013, 11:02:25 AM

Its official now, nobody has ever delivered on time!

not true.

bitfury did deliver.

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Make sure you let the air out of the tires of those cloudhashing vans that are probably queing up outside the door and clear a path for UPS

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Anger is a gift.

Quote from: btceic on September 30, 2013, 11:17:04 AM

Quote from: KS on September 30, 2013, 11:13:53 AM

Quote from: The Avenger on September 30, 2013, 11:11:57 AM

Quote from: daddyfatsax on September 30, 2013, 11:07:00 AM

Birkenstock's and socks... Wow...

lol, glad I wasn't the only one to notice that. Many assembly plants wouldn't let you in the door with sandals on. And not just on grounds of taste! Grin

What are you hinting at? These are professionals!

Investors can wear whatever the fuck they want to...

Until you drop a heatsink on his toe.

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Quote from: dextryn on September 30, 2013, 11:10:55 AM

Quote from: btc_uzr on September 30, 2013, 11:09:17 AM

honestly, the black haired guy looks not happy Undecided

He's probably friggin tired

Agreed, you can see he has big eye rings from undersleeping and overdelivering.

Spelon

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Quote from: vesperwillow on September 30, 2013, 11:16:48 AM

> 600 GH oc capabilities? Is that what I picked up from the hints?

You will need some modifications then. The four pcie connectors can deliver 150w x 4 for a total of max 600w. A standard 4pin molex can deliver 132w per atx specifications. If you rely on the rumored 1.4w/GH, that would give your miner a maximum theoretical of 732w/1.4w = 522.85 GH. If you want more, you´re going to have to solder some extra 8pin pcie connectors in there somewhere.

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