Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 6.

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Quote from: matt4054 on June 25, 2017, 09:18:19 AM

For some of these early ASIC miners, there have been only 1 or 2 batches of them, i.e. hundreds, not even thousands. If Bitcoin is still a thing in twenty-something years, they could be worth about as much as an Apple I is today.

So, I keep my Saturn in the basement for future museum use... and educational purposes Grin

Ha! There I was thinking I'm the only one. It really does feel like owning a piece of history

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For some of these early ASIC miners, there have been only 1 or 2 batches of them, i.e. hundreds, not even thousands. If Bitcoin is still a thing in twenty-something years, they could be worth about as much as an Apple I is today.

So, I keep my Saturn in the basement for future museum use... and educational purposes Grin

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Quote from: edgar on April 09, 2017, 09:38:15 AM

worthless even on hour/day one of a freshly released coin?

I don't know of any decent SHA256 alt coins, or any that are planned unfortunately.

what about http://deutsche-emark.de/ ?

give it a try. Wink

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Quote from: edgar on April 09, 2017, 09:38:15 AM

worthless even on hour/day one of a freshly released coin?

I don't know of any decent SHA256 alt coins, or any that are planned unfortunately.

I had originally posited when ASICs quickly became more and more efficient that some decent SHA256 alt coins would be developed, and allow slower Asics to remain profitable.

However, that never happened. I think the ASIC manufacturers building large farms for much cheaper than the consumer, and all of the scams involving ASIC manufacturers, severely shifted the alt coin community's opinion of ASICs and SHA256. Their opinion on ASICs was already pretty dismal to begin with.

As a result, all decently speculatable alt coins that have been conceived since have decided to go with a different consensus algorithm or various forms of PoS algorithms.

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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)

Speaking of which I'm still fixing the miners, and as a service to the community I got the Titan 2.01 code running on a Beaglebone (Neptune) controller and posted the code on my other thread. Hopefully that will help people keep mining.

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worthless even on hour/day one of a freshly released coin?

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Quote from: Searing on April 09, 2017, 08:57:30 AM

Quote from: WastedLTC on April 09, 2017, 08:54:27 AM

Curious... I still have two original Jupiters (original batch). They worth anything these days? I shut them down in September when my power was no longer free :/

I assume the two power supplies are worth more than the miners.

Not worth anything. Mine is still around. It made me 53 btc...it is in the basement under the workbench...I 'pat' it lovingly occasionally. It is like a beloved asic paperweight

Figured. It's a memory and what a time it was when they first turned on. The hashrate of the network wouldn't even be a dot on the current chart.

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Quote from: WastedLTC on April 09, 2017, 08:54:27 AM

Curious... I still have two original Jupiters (original batch). They worth anything these days? I shut them down in September when my power was no longer free :/

I assume the two power supplies are worth more than the miners.

Not worth anything. Mine is still around. It made me 53 btc...it is in the basement under the workbench...I 'pat' it lovingly occasionally. It is like a beloved asic paperweight

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Curious... I still have two original Jupiters (original batch). They worth anything these days? I shut them down in September when my power was no longer free :/

I assume the two power supplies are worth more than the miners.

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Quote from: lightfoot on March 09, 2017, 06:01:12 PM

Yes. We (me) figured out the problem with the 2.0 bridgeboards; a crystal was used instead of an oscillator. Simple fix with the right tools, I can do it for .1btc/25 ltc or so.

My other thread on hacking them has all the gory details. I'm still fixing cubes, if yours does not shut down the controller when plugged into it with the 10 pin it can probably be fixed. Burned connectors can also be fixed. However ones that have shorted cannot be fixed; I finally verified this by pulling a die and verifying that KNC cross-connected the hotel lines inside the chip.

C

Good to know. Haven't been a fan of KNC's design language since the beginning.

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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)

Yes. We (me) figured out the problem with the 2.0 bridgeboards; a crystal was used instead of an oscillator. Simple fix with the right tools, I can do it for .1btc/25 ltc or so.

My other thread on hacking them has all the gory details. I'm still fixing cubes, if yours does not shut down the controller when plugged into it with the 10 pin it can probably be fixed. Burned connectors can also be fixed. However ones that have shorted cannot be fixed; I finally verified this by pulling a die and verifying that KNC cross-connected the hotel lines inside the chip.

C

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Alrighty, that was a weird break but a lot of things happened behind the scenes. I'm now moving away from the Titans into some other areas, and will be liquidating all of the things I purchased/made. This includes my titan hardware AND the titan bridge board source files, so you guys can finally start making and fixing your own controllers.

I'm liquidating 15 Titan cubes all of them working with less than 30% of them having some non-working dies for 4 BTC total.

Individually if you want just 1 cube (will be random from the bunch), it'll be 0.25 BTC each. If you want to target a specific cube it'll be 0.50 BTC.

The Titan bridge board files from the working batch will be 5 BTC to whoever wants to be the person to deal with that from now on.

I'm just tired of all of this and if I'm going to move on, than there's no better people to keep it going than you guys. PM me if interested. Aside from the bridge problem, it looks like all other issues can be fixed to have a fully working set (minus the unfixable dies which I absolutely cannot help with at this time).

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Quote from: bitcoinvest on February 09, 2017, 06:31:47 AM

i do not count the electricity but i don't want to spend $600 for s3+.....
i found it not reasonable price or cheap either comparing to what will return me after 1 year for example.

Any other proposal?

Uh,not sure where your buying the S3+ from,but on ebay here in the states they're goin for $70-100.....................

wow.. thanks for waking up me.. i fell like i was sleeping ...
but after fast google i saw that: https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140813125800214NBU85kWt0672

also here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antminer-S3-Bitmain-BTC-Tech-Bitcoin-Miner-ASIC-New-Arrival/331828668449?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D2220072%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3D3e8504feedb2475c9f374f0941705043%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D132029218238

ok that was cheaper at about 260 € but since i am in Europe don't want to buy from abroad and wait long time and maybe pay customs also....

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Quote from: bitcoinvest on February 09, 2017, 06:31:47 AM

i do not count the electricity but i don't want to spend $600 for s3+.....
i found it not reasonable price or cheap either comparing to what will return me after 1 year for example.

Any other proposal?

Uh,not sure where your buying the S3+ from,but on ebay here in the states they're goin for $70-100.....................

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i do not count the electricity but i don't want to spend $600 for s3+.....
i found it not reasonable price or cheap either comparing to what will return me after 1 year for example.

Any other proposal?

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Quote from: Longsnowsm on February 06, 2017, 09:32:17 PM

Quote from: bitcoinvest on February 06, 2017, 10:06:54 AM

Quote from: Mukhlas Muzaki on February 06, 2017, 08:22:18 AM

how mining bitcoin with hardware that does not require a huge cost? I know the cost to mine bitcoin with hardware very much.

well i don't know anything that does not require a huge cost ( to earn something that worth the investment ) if somebody can give a proposal to that
i am also interested us i run Solar Panels for power and i have batteries for the night and i can put about 4000W more.

Any proposals?

Mining without a huge cost? Only thing that comes to mind is if you have free power. Then you can snag some of the mining gear that others cannot afford to run any longer. Usually you can pick that stuff up pretty cheap, but again if you don't have free electricity it is a fast way to go broke feeding an inefficient miner.

It just isn't an affordable hobby for most people I hate to say it. If you have a PC with a decent power supply and you are perhaps a gamer you might be able to justify a GPU for gaming that you can keep running at night mining so that it has a dual purpose. Buy you wouldn't really earn much that way. So it would then depend on your goals. Just not much in the way of affordable mining.

Most of us would probably have been better off if we had bought BTC and held it. Maybe make a little money doing some day trading here and there.

Free power?? S3+ best miner I used,cheap on ebay or here.

Pay for power?? Try video cards to mine altcoins,if you can build your own rigs your good,if not your screwed Cheesy

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Quote from: bitcoinvest on February 06, 2017, 10:06:54 AM

Quote from: Mukhlas Muzaki on February 06, 2017, 08:22:18 AM

how mining bitcoin with hardware that does not require a huge cost? I know the cost to mine bitcoin with hardware very much.

well i don't know anything that does not require a huge cost ( to earn something that worth the investment ) if somebody can give a proposal to that
i am also interested us i run Solar Panels for power and i have batteries for the night and i can put about 4000W more.

Any proposals?

Mining without a huge cost? Only thing that comes to mind is if you have free power. Then you can snag some of the mining gear that others cannot afford to run any longer. Usually you can pick that stuff up pretty cheap, but again if you don't have free electricity it is a fast way to go broke feeding an inefficient miner.

It just isn't an affordable hobby for most people I hate to say it. If you have a PC with a decent power supply and you are perhaps a gamer you might be able to justify a GPU for gaming that you can keep running at night mining so that it has a dual purpose. Buy you wouldn't really earn much that way. So it would then depend on your goals. Just not much in the way of affordable mining.

Most of us would probably have been better off if we had bought BTC and held it. Maybe make a little money doing some day trading here and there.

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Quote from: Mukhlas Muzaki on February 06, 2017, 08:22:18 AM

how mining bitcoin with hardware that does not require a huge cost? I know the cost to mine bitcoin with hardware very much.

well i don't know anything that does not require a huge cost ( to earn something that worth the investment ) if somebody can give a proposal to that
i am also interested us i run Solar Panels for power and i have batteries for the night and i can put about 4000W more.

Any proposals?

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how mining bitcoin with hardware that does not require a huge cost? I know the cost to mine bitcoin with hardware very much.

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Quote from: lightfoot on February 05, 2017, 11:20:20 PM

Yeah I can fix that, it requires patience, epoxy glue, 24 gauge wire wrap wire, and .10tc to fix :-)

But I will say if someone can figure out the beaglebone thing that is the right way. I spent a weekend whacking away on it, and got 99% of the way there. Just seems to be a problem in how fucking bfgminer is built because there is knc code, knc-auto code, and knc-titan code and the options just don't seem to work right. I have gotten it to at least see the titan dies, but it flunks loading them which drove me up a c wall.

I know the spi lines and everything else is good (and the new spimux on titans can run neptunes) because I have bfgminer running compiled with neptunes. Something's fucked in the titan code though or one library is stepping on another..

The rest of it is mostly some symbolic links to get waas and the web site to work, but that's not a big deal and I can post my raw notes.

The bridgeboard is also nuts, there are three components on the damn thing and the issue is the crystals I can get just. don't. work. I have no idea in my head why, but I am going to take apart one guy's board to find out. Because another guy managed to kill his bb somehow and we need to fix this.

Want to take a crack at it?

C

Yeah i mean if you want the board you can have it, so you can research it. If i ever get my hands on another i will definitely be using epoxy to hold them on better. Such a stupid design.

A mate of mine is jaded i think, he fixes taxi hardware and comes across this type of thing a lot and throws it all out. He cant seem to be able to tell what else is on the bb without pulling it apart of course and says he cbf playing with it.

I would like it fixed but i really think its a better solution to focus on the bbb as you know it can just go right onto the controller board which is a better solution.

In short, i don't mind sending the bb if you really want to explore it more. Personally i don't think its where we should be heading.

What would be even better is a adapter to run this off a pc. In some circumstances of course.

Here is a picture of my bb for reference to my...current issue.

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