[Table] Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos - page 31.

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Quote from: Maus0728 on September 12, 2021, 02:07:47 AM

Ey! I've just tried withdrawing some funds in my Roobet account earlier and I think now is the best time for transfer.

It's a Sunday and there is generally less congestion during the weekend. That affects the transaction fees positively as the mempool tends to empty out. Although the fees have been just fine during the weekdays as well in recent times.

Even the $3 Roobet is charging can be considered too high of a withdrawal fee considering that you can currently get a quick confirmation for less than $0.50.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 27, 2021, 01:03:10 PM

BetHash

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0.02 BTC ~ $1098

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0.002 BTC~ $109

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What! 109$ fee is unacceptable.
They are saying that they don't want to small investors on their platform, I guess.

Even Uniswap trade fee less than this.

This clearly indicates that BetHash is not for small gamblers, its for big fishes. Invest big and earn big only then you can afford such high withdrawal fees.
With that high withdrawal fee, they are missing market of so many small gamblers. May be they only work with big investors.

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Ey! I've just tried withdrawing some funds in my Roobet account earlier and I think now is the best time for transfer. Just wanna share though if ever someone is keeping an eye on the withdrawal fee and is planning for a transfer.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on September 11, 2021, 12:06:48 PM

@Pmalek, Bitsler and WinDice minimum withdrawal amount fluctuate with the price change of bitcoin. WinDice withdrawal amount is equivalent to $15 in BTC. Bitsler withdrawal amount change in the same way. Although they change it as a round figure. As example: 30k satoshi, 35k satoshi, 40k satoshi, 45k satoshi etc. But they tries to keep it around $15 with the price change of BTC.

Do you have any source that Windice and Bitsler try to keep their withdrawal fees at around $15 all the time? Did anyone from their team ever mention something like that? The last time I checked, both sites did indeed have withdrawal fees between $14 and $15, but I will have to check and see if that is the case every time.

Quote from: Mahdirakib on September 11, 2021, 12:06:48 PM

I think you should write the WinDice withdrawal amount as “$15 equivalent in BTC”. Because the price of bitcoin fluctuate always and it won't be possible to update the withdrawal limit everyday.

Several casinos have dynamic fees. I make changes occasionally. I will try to keep an eye on Bitsler and Windice to see if there really is a connection between the $15 price range and their minimum withdrawal requirements.

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@Pmalek, Bitsler and WinDice minimum withdrawal amount fluctuate with the price change of bitcoin. WinDice withdrawal amount is equivalent to $15 in BTC. Bitsler withdrawal amount change in the same way. Although they change it as a round figure. As example: 30k satoshi, 35k satoshi, 40k satoshi, 45k satoshi etc. But they tries to keep it around $15 with the price change of BTC. Recently they have increased their withdrawal amount to 0.00035 BTC again as the price of BTC dropped.

I think you should write the WinDice withdrawal amount as “$15 equivalent in BTC”. Because the price of bitcoin fluctuate always and it won't be possible to update the withdrawal limit everyday.

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Quote from: UserU on September 10, 2021, 11:32:37 PM

Dafuq, even in other cryptos as well (e.g. EOS)?

They don't display any information for EOS withdrawals from what I can see. But there fees are high even for some other altcoins such as ETH. They are charging 0.01 ETH for each processed withdrawal. USDT withdrawals cos 10 USDT each, no matter if you use the Ethereum or Tron network.

Quote from: sovie on September 11, 2021, 01:16:48 AM

Withdrawal fee is in BTC so it will go high when BTC go up and minimum when btc goes down, provided they dont change it.

It's always high and they haven't changed their minimums once since I created this topic.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on April 27, 2021, 02:00:52 PM

First, thank you for sharing useful information for us here about withdrawal fees and withdrawal amount at crypto casinos.
Some of the site on the list seem to be able to be considered by gamblers if they object to high withdrawal fees. At least on that list we have a selection of site that have free withdrawal, but each player should of course do their own research for the sites they are betting on.

Quote from: Pmalek on April 27, 2021, 01:03:10 PM

BetHash

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0.02 BTC ~ $1098

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0.002 BTC~ $109

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Even though it seem that the site is one of the site that charge a very high withdrawal fee, I don't think there will be any problem if the players agree to the fee. Maybe I will shy away from the site because it is too expensive.

Yes, we must appreciate the hard work done for online gamblers by OP. This list will help specially small gamblers who cant pay high withdrawal fee and have small amount available to withdraw. One thing if they can mention here along with name of gambling site is legitimacy or reliability of that site.
Withdrawal fee is in BTC so it will go high when BTC go up and minimum when btc goes down, provided they dont change it.

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Quote from: Bitinity on September 11, 2021, 12:02:17 AM

Quote from: UserU on September 10, 2021, 11:32:37 PM

Quote from: Haunebu on September 08, 2021, 11:06:46 AM

Also, I have no idea why anyone would want to invest in Bethash. Their minimum withdrawal amount($935) and withdrawal fee($93) are absolutely ridiculous. Feels like they are scamming gamblers due to their insane figures.

Dafuq, even in other cryptos as well (e.g. EOS)?

Not quite sure about the min withdrawal with EOS, but as per my experience some time ago the min withdrawal for other coins are 10 for usdt (both trc20 and erc20), 1,000 for trx and 0.5 for eth. So the best coin to avoid high min withdrawal and its fee is usdt (trc20) and trx imho.

This is in vain you doubt about EOS.
These are truly coins with almost zero fees. The difficulty there lies in the fact that he has inconvenient wallets in which, roughly speaking, it is necessary to freeze part of the staking. But on the other hand, transactions are free and you can make transfers many times.
It always annoys me that if you make a lot of transactions, then the commissions are summed up and turn out to be too large.

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Quote from: UserU on September 10, 2021, 11:32:37 PM

Quote from: Haunebu on September 08, 2021, 11:06:46 AM

Also, I have no idea why anyone would want to invest in Bethash. Their minimum withdrawal amount($935) and withdrawal fee($93) are absolutely ridiculous. Feels like they are scamming gamblers due to their insane figures.

Dafuq, even in other cryptos as well (e.g. EOS)?

Not quite sure about the min withdrawal with EOS, but as per my experience some time ago the min withdrawal for other coins are 10 for usdt (both trc20 and erc20), 1,000 for trx and 0.5 for eth. So the best coin to avoid high min withdrawal and its fee is usdt (trc20) and trx imho.

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Quote from: Haunebu on September 08, 2021, 11:06:46 AM

Also, I have no idea why anyone would want to invest in Bethash. Their minimum withdrawal amount($935) and withdrawal fee($93) are absolutely ridiculous. Feels like they are scamming gamblers due to their insane figures.

Dafuq, even in other cryptos as well (e.g. EOS)?

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Quote from: Haunebu on September 08, 2021, 11:06:46 AM

Also, I have no idea why anyone would want to invest in Bethash. Their minimum withdrawal amount($935) and withdrawal fee($93) are absolutely ridiculous. Feels like they are scamming gamblers due to their insane figures.

It's unbelievable that they are still sticking to those excessive amounts for such a long time. I see no reason for anyone to play there to be honest. With so many platforms constantly updating their fees and trying to lower them for their players, there are surely much better alternatives to Bethash.

Quote from: panjul07 on September 08, 2021, 11:44:04 AM

BTW, there are 2 similar names in the table (Sportsbet and sportbet)
It might be confusing to some people especially new comers in this crypto gambling industry.
So I think you need to edit them with full domain name Sportsbet.io and sportbet.one

That's a good idea! OP has been updated.

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Quote from: Pmalek on September 08, 2021, 03:32:38 AM

Quote from: panjul07 on September 07, 2021, 11:57:11 AM

Are you going to add btc casinos that has no active representative in this forum but the casino is being mentioned in almost review site?

No, I am not going to do that for now. There are plenty of casinos that advertise on this forum. I don't think I need to look elsewhere. I use the reputation and trust they have gathered on Bitcointalk to determine whether to include them in my OP or not. I don't want to look at outside sources like casino reviews which are mostly paid reviews anyways.

Good point, I do not like paid reviews obviously and I asked about 7bit casino because it is listed as one of the best casino in BTCGOSU and I believe BTCGOSU is a reliable source.
BTW, there are 2 similar names in the table (Sportsbet and sportbet)
It might be confusing to some people especially new comers in this crypto gambling industry.
So I think you need to edit them with full domain name Sportsbet.io and sportbet.one

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Quote from: Pmalek on September 08, 2021, 08:06:53 AM

I make a dummy account on all platforms that I test. But if KYC is requested from the start, I don't check those platforms and so I also don't include them in the list either. Roobet is the only one I know of that requires KYC for all their players now. But back when this thread was created, they still didn't have mandatory KYC. That's why they are still there.

Makes sense. I use Pinnacle on a regular basis and wasn't aware of KYC casinos being omitted which is why I made that suggestion earlier.

Also, I have no idea why anyone would want to invest in Bethash. Their minimum withdrawal amount($935) and withdrawal fee($93) are absolutely ridiculous. Feels like they are scamming gamblers due to their insane figures.

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Quote from: Haunebu on September 08, 2021, 07:51:42 AM

Your points make sense and I do partially agree with you. Honestly, it would be amazing if you could consider adding some popular gambling sites like Pinnacle etc which have mostly positive reviews associated with them.

I have nothing against Pinnacle personally. They are a fiat bookie that adopted Bitcoin. I am glad that is the case. However, if you want to gamble on Pinnacle with or without crypto, you have to undergo KYC verification. They talk about Bitcoin deposits and withdrawals here.

I make a dummy account on all platforms that I test. But if KYC is requested from the start, I don't check those platforms and so I also don't include them in the list either. Roobet is the only one I know of that requires KYC for all their players now. But back when this thread was created, they still didn't have mandatory KYC. That's why they are still there.

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Quote from: Pmalek on September 08, 2021, 03:32:38 AM

No, I am not going to do that for now. There are plenty of casinos that advertise on this forum. I don't think I need to look elsewhere. I use the reputation and trust they have gathered on Bitcointalk to determine whether to include them in my OP or not. I don't want to look at outside sources like casino reviews which are mostly paid reviews anyways.

Your points make sense and I do partially agree with you. Honestly, it would be amazing if you could consider adding some popular gambling sites like Pinnacle etc which have mostly positive reviews associated with them.

I know it's too much to ask since you already came up with this amazing list which is useful in several ways, but I hope you can reconsider your decision regarding this matter.

Quote from: ScamViruS on September 08, 2021, 03:49:42 AM

It would not be right to trust outside sources. OP has already made a very nice list, the number of platforms in this list is enough for the players.And the BitcoinTalk community knows about those platforms, and those platforms are continuing their activities.

Are you saying that all outside sources shouldn't be trusted? Makes no sense. There are plenty of legitimate review sites out there.

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Quote from: worle1bm on September 08, 2021, 12:45:40 AM

The casino might not be active on the forum but still doing good in the market without any scam accusations but yes the casinos who have high reputation on the forum are easily trusted by the users and can have a detailed information from the @OP list.He can add it in the future if he find them suitable but at this time the casinos listed are all good and the list is long even this time.

It would not be right to trust outside sources. OP has already made a very nice list, the number of platforms in this list is enough for the players.And the BitcoinTalk community knows about those platforms, and those platforms are continuing their activities.

I think you have an idea of how review websites work, they will give any casino a good rating if they get paid. So it is not right to add them based on reviews only. If they have a good platform and run their campaign on Bitcointalk, they will definitely be added to the list soon.

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Quote from: panjul07 on September 07, 2021, 11:57:11 AM

Are you going to add btc casinos that has no active representative in this forum but the casino is being mentioned in almost review site?

No, I am not going to do that for now. There are plenty of casinos that advertise on this forum. I don't think I need to look elsewhere. I use the reputation and trust they have gathered on Bitcointalk to determine whether to include them in my OP or not. I don't want to look at outside sources like casino reviews which are mostly paid reviews anyways.

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Quote from: ScamViruS on September 07, 2021, 01:22:42 PM

Quote from: panjul07 on September 07, 2021, 11:57:11 AM

Are you going to add btc casinos that has no active representative in this forum but the casino is being mentioned in almost review site?
For example 7bitcasino, it has no active rep here but I can find this casino in almost all review site including btcgosu.

I think he is not interested in adding those websites. Because after looking at the list of casinos that he has made and will do, many players will go to those casinos to play. When the players face any kind of problem and the support team does not give a proper solution then the user will have nowhere else to go. And if there is a representative of that casino in this forum then pressure can be created against it and an appropriate solution can be found. So I don't think it's a good idea to list any casinos without a representative here.

The casino might not be active on the forum but still doing good in the market without any scam accusations but yes the casinos who have high reputation on the forum are easily trusted by the users and can have a detailed information from the @OP list.He can add it in the future if he find them suitable but at this time the casinos listed are all good and the list is long even this time.

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Quote from: RapTarX on September 07, 2021, 12:23:44 PM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 06, 2021, 10:32:50 PM

Maybe you could add an additional note under Betfury that they allow withdrawal using another blockchain.

If it’s on BSC network aka wrappedBTC, isn’t it another altcoin? I would at least say so. So, I guess it's unnecessary to mention in BTC row but that could be placed in the supported altcoin. That would fit better. I don’t know how it works but I don’t think anyone would get any benefit from that. If you are withdrawing BTC, you will get the full amount excluding the fee. While with wBTC, you have to pay small fee and later convert into BTC in exchange and pay the fee again for withdrawal when you withdraw BTC. Just saying, some may get benefit from this though.

There are benefits (for me at least) but I'm not going to discuss it over here. Like I said, let's not argue over this. The purpose of my post is to inform especially those who know how to work with different networks.

Quote from: Pmalek on September 07, 2021, 03:05:46 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 06, 2021, 10:32:50 PM

Some would say that a wrapped BTC is not the real BTC but let's not argue over that.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I share that opinion myself. Wrapped bitcoin is a token that doesn't use Bitcoin's native blockchain and can therefore not be considered as bitcoin. I have seen some other casinos offer wBTC as well but never paid that much attention to it. Sooner or later you have to exchange it back to the real bitcoin, so whatever you think you saved on withdrawal fees today, you will pay tomorrow with the conversion into bitcoin and withdrawal to your private wallet from whatever exchange you used.

No problem. I was only suggesting to put an additional info (note) on Betfury in the table. If you don't find it necessary then so be it.

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Quote from: panjul07 on September 07, 2021, 11:57:11 AM

Are you going to add btc casinos that has no active representative in this forum but the casino is being mentioned in almost review site?
For example 7bitcasino, it has no active rep here but I can find this casino in almost all review site including btcgosu.

I think he is not interested in adding those websites. Because after looking at the list of casinos that he has made and will do, many players will go to those casinos to play. When the players face any kind of problem and the support team does not give a proper solution then the user will have nowhere else to go. And if there is a representative of that casino in this forum then pressure can be created against it and an appropriate solution can be found. So I don't think it's a good idea to list any casinos without a representative here.

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