Tahoe-lafs and Bitcoin Integration Bounty (210 BTC pledged) - page 2.

lebek

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Quote from: Meni Rosenfeld on April 09, 2012, 09:33:50 AM

I don't know much about Tahoe-LAFS, but if there's no built-in incentive to provide storage, I'm guessing there's also no built in verification that you're actually storing what you say you are.

In Tahoe-LAFS there's a verify-capability associated with each file that lets you do an integrity check over the ciphertext and erasure coded shares for that file. A server can only lie about storing a file until another node attempts to verify it, and this can easily be scheduled to happen periodically.

Meni Rosenfeld

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I don't know much about Tahoe-LAFS, but if there's no built-in incentive to provide storage, I'm guessing there's also no built in verification that you're actually storing what you say you are.

If there's an incentive system for providing p2p storage (which is something I really hope to see), there needs to be a very robust verification scheme, otherwise people will fake it for free money. To me this seems an extremely challenging problem, though probably solvable (I did spend some time thinking of some possible solutions).

Whether we use Bitcoin or OT or both or neither for payments is trivial in comparison.

BinaryMage

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Merit: 500

Ad astra.

Quote from: fellowtraveler on April 08, 2012, 11:07:14 AM

Quote from: mila on April 07, 2012, 02:56:52 PM

Quote from: BinaryMage on April 07, 2012, 01:43:28 PM

Why the necro?

he's proposing OT for everything (except curing cancer)

I think a digital cash integration with Tahoe is one of the most important projects that needs to be done, regardless of which digital cash system is used to accomplish it.

(I would use OT and Bitcoin together but if you have a better suggestion I'd love to see it.)

How much time do you all think you have, that you can sit on this forum gossiping like a bunch of old women instead of coding something so important?

Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?

It's very odd to necro old threads like this. Better to just start a new one listing your goals or whatnot.

fellowtraveler

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Quote from: mila on April 07, 2012, 02:56:52 PM

Quote from: BinaryMage on April 07, 2012, 01:43:28 PM

Why the necro?

he's proposing OT for everything (except curing cancer)

I think a digital cash integration with Tahoe is one of the most important projects that needs to be done, regardless of which digital cash system is used to accomplish it.

(I would use OT and Bitcoin together but if you have a better suggestion I'd love to see it.)

How much time do you all think you have, that you can sit on this forum gossiping like a bunch of old women instead of coding something so important?

weex

legendary

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For extremely old bounties like this, might it be a good idea to reconfirm that the pledgers are still onboard? 210 btc is worth quite a bit of coding now and it would drop to 150 BTC if slush's adjustment were allowed.

mila

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Quote from: BinaryMage on April 07, 2012, 01:43:28 PM

Why the necro?

he's proposing OT for everything (except curing cancer)
and yes, this month's "holy thread revival award" winner is ...

BinaryMage

hero member

Activity: 560

Merit: 500

Ad astra.

Quote from: fellowtraveler on April 04, 2012, 12:27:45 AM

I just wanted to point out that Open-Transactions could work as the accounting system for a Tahoe-LAFS integration, and in fact such a thing is why I wrote OT in the first place.

I will support anyone who uses OT to do this Tahoe integration.

Why the necro?

fellowtraveler

sr. member

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I just wanted to point out that Open-Transactions could work as the accounting system for a Tahoe-LAFS integration, and in fact such a thing is why I wrote OT in the first place.

I will support anyone who uses OT to do this Tahoe integration.

AntiVigilante

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Quote from: kiba on December 13, 2010, 12:52:55 AM

I am pledging 5 BTC for whoever....

Create an accounting system that will incentivize people to contribute HD space and make it easy to pay bitcoins for storage of data.

Pledgers:

1. Kiba - 10 BTC
2. slush - 100 BTC
3. dejayal - 100 BTC

Total: 210 BTC

Diskcoin (and bandcoin and cyclecoin and servcoin) is coming soon as I figure out bitcoind code.

Security should be a plugin, not an out of the gate feature. DNS designers had to back off in the early days because corporate sponsors balked at perceived and real development costs.

Decentralization should be done first, quickly, and correctly. Otherwise you'll see no more than niche adoption and to law enforcement niche is not soccer mom, therefore cider terriblist.

Tahoe-LAFS would be a wrapper for diskcoin.

I can bring it.

slush

legendary

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kiba, bitcoin value went up drastically since December. Because nobody is working on this project yet, can I change my offer from 100 BTC to 40 BTC? It is still much higher than original offer (in USD prices). Thanks.

Cusipzzz

sr. member

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Merit: 250

I pledge 10 btc - would be very cool. Must be full bitcoin accounting!

Sawzall

full member

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Merit: 100

The accounting system that integrates with Tahoe is really the hard part. It's pretty easy to stick some RPC calls on top of that.

Nefario

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I have a proposal for how this might be implemented - see http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/archives/2011/05/24/cloud-storage/

I'll pledge 50btc, not specifically for getting tahoe working with bitcoin, but that you can account with it(i.e. measure each users contribution and usage etc.) which would work with anything not just bitcoin.

matsh

member

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Merit: 11

This could be insanely cool, so I pledge 10 BTC!

Sawzall

full member

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Merit: 100

This would be awesome.
But I don't have $700 to devote to the bounty.
So I'll try to work on the coding.
And you could get an actual Tahoe for only 8000BTC!

kiba

legendary

Activity: 980

Merit: 1020

Will we have more pledgees?

bober182

full member

Activity: 308

Merit: 100

I know that the point of the system will reward me but I'm pledging 24/7 50GB to start.

kiba

legendary

Activity: 980

Merit: 1020

Updated. 205 BTC pledged so far.

QuantumMechanic

member

Activity: 110

Merit: 19

Count me in for 100 BTC.

slush

legendary

Activity: 1386

Merit: 1097

I'm not sure how many people know both Tahoe-LAFS and Bitcoin and want to donate bitcoin-based accounting system. Maybe we should also ask users on tahoe-lafs mailing list and accept pledges in USD (of course with comment that primary currency is bitcoin Wink

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There were already requests to add accounting and also exist draft/idea how to implement that, but nobody started with that. Maybe GSOC student will be more interested if some extra pledge will be here...

Anyway, I'm pledging 100 BTC.

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