In the end, sometimes I almost hope that a big wallet from Silk Road or Dream Market for example, sends some sats to a large amount of active addresses (like the wallets of CEX, celebrities etc...)
That would put things in their right place.
Someone did this with Tornado mixed coins, he sent mixed ETH to a lot of celebrities to impregnate their wallet.
I think it's a good idea, it would show the absurdity of this system. The CEX work on a case by case basis, and in absolute terms someone who doesn't do anything dishonest will never get into trouble, but it would still be funny to see it happen.
As for the question about legal fees or not, I think fortunately there is a huge world between us and that level of political/judicial persecution, I don't think the question even arises in reality.
Pools and miners are not interested in who produces the transactions (I mean legal or not etc..), they just solve the blocks and share the reward + fees. Will we attack Visa or Mastercard if someone spends dirty money with their card? In this example, the banks are the CEX, and the CEX are already accountable. No reason to involve the miners in this mess haha.
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All I know is that tainted coins are handled case by case.
If you use decentralized exchange, that will be where it is best, unlike exchanges. If you used an exchange and the coin is seized, not your key not your coin.
If someone is linked to a criminal use of a coin and the person is later known, that is another case entirely.
Know that tainted coins are handled case by case because almost all coins are tainted coins.
If you use decentralized exchange, that will be where it is best, unlike exchanges. If you used an exchange and the coin is seized, not your key not your coin.
If someone is linked to a criminal use of a coin and the person is later known, that is another case entirely.
Know that tainted coins are handled case by case because almost all coins are tainted coins.
And one additional question: Is it legal to get the transaction fees of illegal transactions?
The transaction is confirmed, the miner that mine the block the transaction is included will get the fee. Or you mean the government to seek for the fee? The fee likely is going to be little, it won't be worth going for. Also why going for the fee once the transaction was successful and not reversible in a way the fee paid can be reversed. 
I think Bitcoin has a big problem with tainted coins
There's a saying that all USD bills smell of cocain. And they are well in circulation.
Tainted bitcoins? Well, it depends greatly on who is looking at them. For now the majority tells that 1 BTC = 1 BTC and those telling stories about tainted coins have a different agenda.
All in all, some (rather few) businesses pretend to have problems with tainted coins, but most of them don't do the right thing (alert the authorities and hand the funds to the right owners), instead they spread big words on tainted money and, when they get such funds may just try to get them for themselves.
And one additional question: Is it legal to get the transaction fees of illegal transactions?
What if the miner has processed the transaction without knowing it's stolen money? Who decides what transaction is illegal (and does it makes any use if the miner has already processed it)? Who decides if the first one deciding the tx is illegal was deciding that correctly or not? (Because, sorry, but that's how law works).
So the only sane approach is to leave miners process all the transactions (because any kind of censoring can lead to bigger problems overall) and get hold of stolen money as soon as that money reaches an exchange, for example.
Market has buy support so whatever those guys sell and who ever they are the value will not get affected not unless if they dump huge volume of bitcoin instantly. There's nothing to worry about since bitcoin has circulate appropriately so whatever negative things you thought like it will dump if someone sells you also need to consider that there are still more people willing to buy and that's how bitcoin survive for so many years.
I think Bitcoin has a big problem with tainted coins and the demand to be a store of value.
My example:
X gets 1 BTC through a criminal act. X is trading something for 1 BTC with Y. The Police is blacklisting the 1 BTC and confiscated the 1 BTC from Y.
This is a 100 percent loss of value for Y.
Then the FBI is selling the 1 BTC, often under value. This is an overall decreasing of value for Bitcoin.
Is there a possibility to protect user like Y for such a loss of value? And how do we protect the community from an overall loss of value?
Another example:
Y gets 1 BTC through a criminal act. The police is blacklisting the 1 BTC. So for X the 1 BTC is less worth than a normal 1 BTC. So there is a second market for Bitcoin's tainted coins, where the "tainted" BTC is less worth than the normal BTC. If somebody has a trick to wash it, isn't it draining value out of the ecosystem, too?
And one additional question: Is it legal to get the transaction fees of illegal transactions?
My example:
X gets 1 BTC through a criminal act. X is trading something for 1 BTC with Y. The Police is blacklisting the 1 BTC and confiscated the 1 BTC from Y.
This is a 100 percent loss of value for Y.
Then the FBI is selling the 1 BTC, often under value. This is an overall decreasing of value for Bitcoin.
Is there a possibility to protect user like Y for such a loss of value? And how do we protect the community from an overall loss of value?
Another example:
Y gets 1 BTC through a criminal act. The police is blacklisting the 1 BTC. So for X the 1 BTC is less worth than a normal 1 BTC. So there is a second market for Bitcoin's tainted coins, where the "tainted" BTC is less worth than the normal BTC. If somebody has a trick to wash it, isn't it draining value out of the ecosystem, too?
And one additional question: Is it legal to get the transaction fees of illegal transactions?
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