Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network - page 113.

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Quote from: mr001 on July 04, 2016, 05:12:12 AM

I send some Agoras to my Omniwallet Bitcoin address. The coins has bin not arrived.
Maybe I make something false?
Should I create an Agora Asset in my Omniwallet?

No just wait they will show up

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https://i.imgur.com/anpUpg7.jpg

I send some Agoras to my Omniwallet Bitcoin address. The coins has bin not arrived.
Maybe I make something false?
Should I create an Agora Asset in my Omniwallet?

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Quote from: bitfish on June 29, 2016, 07:04:10 PM

Quote from: Rw13enlib88 on June 29, 2016, 08:16:02 AM

Quote from: bitfish on June 28, 2016, 06:45:20 AM

Main risks for Tau-Chain currently are IMHO:
1) Tau-chain might never be ready
2) New competition emerging & being faster
3) No guarantee that Agora coins will be the dominating currency for Tau-Chain. Who can be sure that there aren't other market place apps on Tau-Chain which will be using other coins like BTC or ETH?

Since Ohad's Tau-Chain seems to be a great ground braking project, early investors might at least see their investment as support for Ohad realizing his vision.
BTW: I think Ohad should look for strategic advice how to secure commercial success of Agora coins.

You know what is risk? Risk management? Money management? Diversified portfolio? STFU? Stop crying?

Strategic Advice - Secure - Commercial success
you dont know what the fuck are you saying...
If you want something secure move to your favourite company: IBM
If u want innovation: Stay here and STFU
Innovation =/ Secure

a middle path dont exist!

Strong words - weak arguments.
Everybody wants innovation. But ignoring risk to reward ratio before investing isn't very clever.
FOMO isn't good investing advice. I'm personally preferring a more "Buddhist" way of investment:
Don't be greedy, meditate about potential risk & reward, act slow but fearless if you think that time has come. Cheesy

BTW: OP was claiming that:

Quote from: revelacaogr on June 28, 2016, 04:24:10 AM

if u make a good study in TauChain u will understand 1 thing:

or u r in (( all the way ))
or u r out (( all the way ))

a middle path dont exist!

u enter from the beginning with no more then this that u r ready to loose........

thats my point

(( of course ,after a due diligence ))

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Quote from: Sam123 on June 30, 2016, 07:59:01 AM

Quote from: yang5034 on June 29, 2016, 11:35:05 PM

anybody know how many devs are working for this project?

4 according to Ohad
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14678428

Yes there is around 4 people working on the programming development currently.

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Quote from: yang5034 on June 29, 2016, 11:35:05 PM

anybody know how many devs are working for this project?

4 according to Ohad
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14678428

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Quote from: yang5034 on June 29, 2016, 11:35:05 PM

anybody know how many devs are working for this project?

only 1 Dev

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anybody know how many devs are working for this project?

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A Coin A Day Keeps The Cold Away.

Quote from: Rw13enlib88 on June 29, 2016, 08:16:02 AM

Quote from: bitfish on June 28, 2016, 06:45:20 AM

Main risks for Tau-Chain currently are IMHO:
1) Tau-chain might never be ready
2) New competition emerging & being faster
3) No guarantee that Agora coins will be the dominating currency for Tau-Chain. Who can be sure that there aren't other market place apps on Tau-Chain which will be using other coins like BTC or ETH?

Since Ohad's Tau-Chain seems to be a great ground braking project, early investors might at least see their investment as support for Ohad realizing his vision.
BTW: I think Ohad should look for strategic advice how to secure commercial success of Agora coins.

You know what is risk? Risk management? Money management? Diversified portfolio? STFU? Stop crying?

Strategic Advice - Secure - Commercial success
you dont know what the fuck are you saying...
If you want something secure move to your favourite company: IBM
If u want innovation: Stay here and STFU
Innovation =/ Secure

a middle path dont exist!

Strong words - weak arguments.
Everybody wants innovation. But ignoring risk to reward ratio before investing isn't very clever.
FOMO isn't good investing advice. I'm personally preferring a more "Buddhist" way of investment:
Don't be greedy, meditate about potential risk & reward, act slow but fearless if you think that time has come. Cheesy

BTW: OP was claiming that:

Quote from: revelacaogr on June 28, 2016, 04:24:10 AM

if u make a good study in TauChain u will understand 1 thing:

or u r in (( all the way ))
or u r out (( all the way ))

a middle path dont exist!

That claim was wrong. You don't have to be in "all the way". As history has shown, there was always ample time
during crypto coin development to enter investment. Depending on your appetite for risk you may enter
a project at an earlier or a later stage. Your reward multiplier may decrease if you are entering at a later stage.
But so does your risk multiplier...

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Quote from: ohad on June 29, 2016, 05:45:31 PM

Quote from: cryptico on June 29, 2016, 05:39:11 PM

which blockexplorer should I use? the btc one still? is it depending on the btc network? the btc explorer is not recognising my txid.

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Thx seems OK now good night

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Quote from: cryptico on June 29, 2016, 05:39:11 PM

which blockexplorer should I use? the btc one still? is it depending on the btc network? the btc explorer is not recognising my txid.

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Hi Ohad or any other using omni wallet,

I'm testing the omni wallet.. I received my first AGRS transaction very fast than I try to send some btcs into my Omni address from omni wallets using two different .dats obviously,

the first transaction got uncomfirmed I had to close the omni put the .dat into a btc core wallet and it send it without problems.

Now Im sending back my AGRS to bittrex address from omni wallet but is more than 20 minute still uncomfirmed

{
   "txid" : "5f8da9e6b842a006d9e2270ec2a0333a6178da8ca228507ba83e3e9773149666",
   "fee" : "0.00005068",
   "sendingaddress" : "1GmYSAf4g9LTKzEUxYmDzJr7STWTvQUFRC",
   "referenceaddress" : "1H8cCnNLyUZnRqSMdqZ6XAH6kGP431zBkq",
   "ismine" : true,
   "version" : 0,
   "type_int" : 0,
   "type" : "Simple Send",
   "propertyid" : 58,
   "divisible" : true,
   "amount" : "2.90000000",
   "confirmations" : 0
}

which blockexplorer should I use? the btc one still? is it depending on the btc network? the btc explorer is not recognising my txid.

Thank you.

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Quote from: llildur on June 29, 2016, 02:20:47 AM

Quote from: ohad on June 28, 2016, 03:07:55 PM

to give two comments about the raised ideas:

BTC's value is based, at the bottom line, on people's belief. just like fiat money without the gold basis, but without the ability to print new money

Hearing something like this coming from you is just dissapointing, the value issue is very relative, especially when someone try to explain it alluding to gold, what is the intrinsic value of gold anyway? belief? scarcity? tradition? BTC provides a new gold standard for a digital era, allow the transfer of value over the net across the world without middle men or institutions without borders, that is the intrinsec value of BTC, is not based on belief is based on facts in cryptography and math and of course resources, your project is very interesting but bashing a true disruptive tech like BTC is not helping at you mostly because it is a key piece of TAU. Sad

lol with your dissapointment...
the real value of bitcoin comes from the network effect which is the only thing is not easily replicable...

Quote from: bitfish on June 28, 2016, 06:45:20 AM

Main risks for Tau-Chain currently are IMHO:
1) Tau-chain might never be ready
2) New competition emerging & being faster
3) No guarantee that Agora coins will be the dominating currency for Tau-Chain. Who can be sure that there aren't other market place apps on Tau-Chain which will be using other coins like BTC or ETH?

Since Ohad's Tau-Chain seems to be a great ground braking project, early investors might at least see their investment as support for Ohad realizing his vision.
BTW: I think Ohad should look for strategic advice how to secure commercial success of Agora coins.

You know what is risk? Risk management? Money management? Diversified portfolio? STFU? Stop crying?

Strategic Advice - Secure - Commercial success
you dont know what the fuck are you saying...
If you want something secure move to your favourite company: IBM
If u want innovation: Stay here and STFU
Innovation =/ Secure

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Main risks for Tau-Chain currently are IMHO:
1) Tau-chain might never be ready
3) No guarantee that Agora coins will be the dominating currency for Tau-Chain. Who can be sure that there aren't other market place apps on Tau-Chain which will be using other coins like BTC or ETH?

Since Ohad's Tau-Chain seems to be a great ground braking project, early investors might at least see their investment as support for Ohad realizing his vision.
BTW: I think Ohad should look for strategic advice how to secure commercial success of Agora coins.

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Quote from: ohad on June 28, 2016, 03:07:55 PM

to give two comments about the raised ideas:

BTC's value is based, at the bottom line, on people's belief. just like fiat money without the gold basis, but without the ability to print new money

Hearing something like this coming from you is just dissapointing, the value issue is very relative, especially when someone try to explain it alluding to gold, what is the intrinsic value of gold anyway? belief? scarcity? tradition? BTC provides a new gold standard for a digital era, allow the transfer of value over the net across the world without middle men or institutions without borders, that is the intrinsec value of BTC, is not based on belief is based on facts in cryptography and math and of course resources, your project is very interesting but bashing a true disruptive tech like BTC is not helping at you mostly because it is a key piece of TAU. Sad

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to give two comments about the raised ideas:

1. regarding the commercial success of AGRS vs other coins (over tau or not), bear in mind that it's not only a currency, but offers features that no one offers, and even no competition to zennet came, even though full zennet's design docs were published two years ago. this all has to do with *intrinsic* value that other cryptocurrencies (including BTC) don't have. BTC's value is based, at the bottom line, on people's belief. just like fiat money without the gold basis, but without the ability to print new money. on the other hand, people all know how much hardware resources worth. it's a real tangible commodity, so AGRS couldn't possibly be worth less than the commodities they provide. of course similar arguments can be given to other markets we promised to have, the code-for-money and the self-incentivizing search engine.
2. about all AGRS holders to come up collaboratively to the best rules of the network (in both broad and narrow senses) -- that's why we first make a collaborative tech-and-society R&D platform, namely, Tau.

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Quote from: bitfish on June 28, 2016, 06:45:20 AM

Main risks for Tau-Chain currently are IMHO:
1) Tau-chain might never be ready
2) New competition emerging & being faster
3) No guarantee that Agora coins will be the dominating currency for Tau-Chain. Who can be sure that there aren't other market place apps on Tau-Chain which will be using other coins like BTC or ETH?

Since Ohad's Tau-Chain seems to be a great ground braking project, early investors might at least see their investment as support for Ohad realizing his vision.
BTW: I think Ohad should look for strategic advice how to secure commercial success of Agora coins.

Number 2 is out of our control. Number 1 seems improbable. Number 3 is only one we can work towards a solution to now. I agree it is a risk that can be addressed now.

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Tauchain Advanced Concepts

https://steemit.com/tauchain/@dana-edwards/tauchain-advanced-concepts

A discussion and description of how Tauchain works by a non-expert

https://steemit.com/tauchain/@dana-edwards/a-discussion-and-description-of-how-tauchain-works-by-a-non-expert

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Shareholders with initial voting / powers of determination should start coming together to discuss the philosophy and ideas they'd like implemented so there is some preparation before launch.

http://www.esrad.org.uk/resources/vsmg_3/screen.php?page=0cybeyes

I've just read the modeling guide above and it gives some context for things that can be achieved. Perhaps others can share links they find resourceful.

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Quote from: revelacaogr on June 28, 2016, 04:24:10 AM

if u make a good study in TauChain u will understand 1 thing:

or u r in (( all the way ))
or u r out (( all the way ))

a middle path dont exist!

So true.

I think that's not true.
If you are watching projects, there is usually ample time entering a project during its development phase
While earliest adopters of a successful project are earning biggest percentage wise profits they are bearing biggest risk.
So you don't have to be in all the way. You have to enter a project when reward to risk relationship is at maximum.

Main risks for Tau-Chain currently are IMHO:
1) Tau-chain might never be ready
2) New competition emerging & being faster
3) No guarantee that Agora coins will be the dominating currency for Tau-Chain. Who can be sure that there aren't other market place apps on Tau-Chain which will be using other coins like BTC or ETH?

Since Ohad's Tau-Chain seems to be a great ground braking project, early investors might at least see their investment as support for Ohad realizing his vision.
BTW: I think Ohad should look for strategic advice how to secure commercial success of Agora coins.

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Quote from: Pofick on June 26, 2016, 09:23:08 AM

Not to be the one who always weeps but I lost all my hope that we ever would be able to see some practical results or implementation of Tau Chain. Cry

if u make a good study in TauChain u will understand 1 thing:

or u r in (( all the way ))
or u r out (( all the way ))

a middle path dont exist!

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