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sr. member
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February 20, 2018, 02:56:13 AM
#90
Governments taxing crypto is something they agreed that crypto is a currency. However they shouldn't  tax until or unless they legalized cryptocurrency in their country. It is baseless in taxing crypto without accepting that as legal tender in their country. Tax also should be minimal or less since crypto is a not grwon completely on all the aspects. I really don't like governments taxing apart from the transaction fees we pay in lump sum.
full member
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Merit: 102
February 20, 2018, 01:56:23 AM
#89
I pay enough tax already outside the crypto field, so I am definitely not letting to government eat off any of my crypto holdings. The downside of this is that my freedom to have it converted back to fiat gets drastically limited by doing so. It doesn't mean that I can't have it sent to my bank account, but these bastards register and report everything, which is forming quite an obstacle. Good thing however is that I am not a fiat centric person, which means that I gladly keep holding on to my coins for plenty of more years, just like I have always been doing.

Will you not have to pay taxes the  time when you finally cash out ? I mean one day you will get the profits in banks and then how will hide those transactions. In my country, the Income tax department has already started raiding the exchanges and collecting the information of investors. Thereafter notices were sent to those who were investing huge amount of money in Bitcoins.
Well, is it not the information they have that they will be able to make use of? Apparently, it is what I declare on the exchange to make use of or convert to fiat is what they are going to tax, isn't it? However they want to do it, to find out my other wallets, I guess we will have to wait and see, but for now, I am still managing their fiat and they can be taxing that one until I am totally done with it. Can't a man just have peace from taxes?
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 259
February 20, 2018, 01:50:44 AM
#88
The fact that you are feeling freedom with your gainings is good, but you won't be able to transfer the funds you earned to your bank account later if you won't pay taxes.
I can't accept the reason to use bitcoins because you want to avoid taxes, you can do so with fiat currencies as well, work with cash and don't declare earnings to your government.
Nothing has been changed.
sr. member
Activity: 572
Merit: 250
February 20, 2018, 01:23:53 AM
#87
i could be in Forex if i want to pay taxes... Crypto is the only way that i am feeling freedom with my gainings also i hate tı contribute on social life and goverments with boundries and i hope that will change soon . They are living as rich people with my saving and risks for gaining money ... Ahh hate it .
It is even funny how most of them at the top do not pay tax and then the common man is busy working hard and still feeding them while they keep getting so rich. Now they are after my cryptocurrencies? No way! I just cannot wait to see the look on their faces when they find out that we can easily spend our cryptos without having to exchange to fiat. Punks! I am done with their shits! Nothing for them!
full member
Activity: 336
Merit: 100
February 17, 2018, 01:37:14 AM
#86
I don't mind paying taxes for the government. The only problem I see is that I don't know where my taxes are going. In my country, there are too much corruption and the taxes are already high (around 30%). That's why I dig my hands on crypto to stay away from the prying eyes of the government. But with all the regulations around crypto around the world, it will be just a matter of time before everyone of us started to pay taxes with our crypto earnings, specially converting it to fiat. If I know that the money that I'm paying is going to be for let say health care or education. But if its just going to the wallet of corrupt politicians, I would rather hold my bitcoins for a long time.

I also can not calmly pay taxes while in my country there is too much corruption. It is better to engage in charity sending money to the needy, and not to pay taxes and do not know where your money will go.   
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Decentralized Ascending Auctions on Blockchain
February 13, 2018, 09:38:21 AM
#85
Actually, no person authorize or authorities to collect taxes in cryptocurrency, it is totally free of tax. When we say payments of taxes involves, it is already decentralized system of all cryptocurrencies, but until now cryptocurrencies are operated by a private sector, without any assistant from government. So, no need to worry about taxes payments because cryptocurrency today are free from taxes. Many speculations also stated that if government enter in crypto business and collect taxes, the price of bitcoin will affected and result into price bottom line.
member
Activity: 322
Merit: 10
February 13, 2018, 09:25:30 AM
#84
How does everyone feel about being taxed on profits earned through crypto currencies. We all took the leap of faith and risked our money, if we had all lost our money would the IRS still be interested in taxing us. Dont think so.

How far do you think governments will go to get a piece of the action?

There should be any problem on being taxed on crypto earnings. If they start adding additional taxes, it can be a huge issue.

I don't see any problem on that besides as a residence of the country we are oblige to follow the government orders. I don't want to be in jail for not paying my taxes. As long as I'm profitable in my investments no problem to me. I do hope that they will use (Taxes from crypto) for the good of the people not for their own interest.  
full member
Activity: 141
Merit: 100
February 13, 2018, 09:18:28 AM
#83
Oh no my friend! There is no reason for the state mafia to steal on money we earned by taking risks with our already taxed money. By definition I am against any kind of tax, but even more when you are taxed twice! Just "you are taxed" is a word invented by government robbers for "you are stole".
newbie
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Merit: 0
February 13, 2018, 09:06:22 AM
#82
It's possible to use Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies in the same fashion as foreign bank accounts to facilitate tax evasion.
member
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Rasputin Party Mansion
February 11, 2018, 08:34:22 AM
#81
The real problem is that the blockchain is a double-edged sword: at present, it assures to you a good level of anonymity, but in the same time keeps trace of any transaction.
If the tax authorities can make a connection between you and an address, they will have the possibility to know all your past movement.

So, the problem is not now, where it's not difficult to hide what are we doing, but in the future.

So, be careful.
member
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February 07, 2018, 02:07:11 PM
#80
I agree. I'm so upset with the way politicians use the public money in my country, that I'll do everything to avoid being robbed by them.
However, whit bitcoin is risky, because any transaction is recorded, and if they can connect a bitcoin address to you, they'll have all your situation under their eyes.
So, the real problem with bitcoin is when you try to exchange them in fiat money.

According to my opinion many of people are investing in crypto because of their negligible taxes and high security.
But there is a big issue of this negligible taxes and the issue is that due to No tax many countries are not legalizing bitcoin if bitcoin is start accepting some taxes then i think countries will be start accepting bitcoin legally most probably.
jr. member
Activity: 34
Merit: 1
February 07, 2018, 08:13:29 AM
#79
How does everyone feel about being taxed on profits earned through crypto currencies. We all took the leap of faith and risked our money, if we had all lost our money would the IRS still be interested in taxing us. Dont think so.

How far do you think governments will go to get a piece of the action?

There should be any problem on being taxed on crypto earnings. If they start adding additional taxes, it can be a huge issue.
full member
Activity: 336
Merit: 121
February 07, 2018, 06:15:02 AM
#78
According to my opinion many of people are investing in crypto because of their negligible taxes and high security.
But there is a big issue of this negligible taxes and the issue is that due to No tax many countries are not legalizing bitcoin if bitcoin is start accepting some taxes then i think countries will be start accepting bitcoin legally most probably.
member
Activity: 328
Merit: 39
February 07, 2018, 06:00:40 AM
#77
In a perfect world, any citizen will give part of his profit to the community, and the collected money will be used in different way (infrastructures, services, social help, and so on) in the interest of community.
In this perfect world everyone would be happy to pay his taxes.
But when you see the misuse of public money and the corruption level in government, it's normal to try to hide your assets.

Moreover, there is a big aspect: big companies have an army of lawyers at their service, and they always find "creative" ways to avoid to pay their taxes, in the meanwhile the average citizen has no defense.

Of course, this is an old discussion, and has nothing to do with crypto.
full member
Activity: 784
Merit: 123
February 07, 2018, 05:42:35 AM
#76
How does everyone feel about being taxed on profits earned through crypto currencies. We all took the leap of faith and risked our money, if we had all lost our money would the IRS still be interested in taxing us. Dont think so.

How far do you think governments will go to get a piece of the action?
It seems to be that people are afraid of tax implementation in all crypto holders. As news spread talking about these, it totally shaken the entire community and they trying to ignored this one. But in the moment when government makes its final decision, we can't do nothing for this. It only make troubles if we opposed such government policy about taxation in crypto.
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Activity: 196
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Large scale, green crypto mining ICO
February 07, 2018, 05:22:45 AM
#75
One of the options to avoid all this is to move to Malta. Malta is very crypto-friendly, they have a national strategy to support bitcoin and blockchain technology and Muscat is a great bitcoin supporter himself. Also, the climat is nice there Smiley
full member
Activity: 364
Merit: 101
February 07, 2018, 05:08:43 AM
#74
In legal terms, yes. We must pay taxes for all the revenue we receive (at least in my country). The question is how to arrange everything right. Governments can manipulate people in different mean ways  Sad
hero member
Activity: 1190
Merit: 500
February 07, 2018, 05:00:47 AM
#73
Oh man! There is a huge harm in giving something back most especially when those you are giving are the corrupt government who has screwed us all with their stupid taxes. It is a pain in the arise and I cannot wait for the day I will be able to spend my bitcoin without having to convert to fiat.

I am still very optimistic that day is going to come, so I am saving up for it, and they can keep taxing up their fiat until that moment comes, but my bitcoin profit, they can go screw themselves. Enough is enough!
It is really easy to say that you are against taxation because the government is not doing anything for your benefit,it is true that the politicians are looting us while they are enjoying all the benefits while the common man suffers,but you have to obey the law in order to live a peaceful life without getting into trouble and if they find out the transactions being done without paying the taxes properly the IRS could impose a huge fine for your actions,so you have to be careful with that.
I think the government will begin to realize that they will not be able to stop the development of cryptocurrency. they will use other means to provide regulation and someday there will be a tax for wealth and income that can be from investment crypto. That day will definitely happen because the government would want to benefit from anything in their country. I think its not a problem for me. as long as they can legalize cryptocurrency and we can shop with crypto without having convert to fiat
full member
Activity: 784
Merit: 176
February 07, 2018, 04:30:33 AM
#72
How does everyone feel about being taxed on profits earned through crypto currencies. We all took the leap of faith and risked our money, if we had all lost our money would the IRS still be interested in taxing us. Dont think so.

How far do you think governments will go to get a piece of the action?
Sometimes I think that what IRS did is not fair, I am not USA citizens but I think the tax regulations by IRS is not really good and fair for cryptocurrency users. The tax rate also high enough. I hope IRS will decrease the tax rate, I just care about cryptocurrency users in USA. Tax income is good but I hope governments collect it in good way.
hero member
Activity: 1372
Merit: 503
February 07, 2018, 04:18:03 AM
#71
How does everyone feel about being taxed on profits earned through crypto currencies. We all took the leap of faith and risked our money, if we had all lost our money would the IRS still be interested in taxing us. Dont think so.

How far do you think governments will go to get a piece of the action?

I think this is inevitable. Especially with how bitcoin has been progressing once the government caught a whiff of a scent of being able to regulate this income generating activity which in a way can impact the fonancial sector of a country then that would be the end point. HOwever I think it is a neccessity especially woth how bitcoin has been volatile I think that with ot being regulated can contribute to its stability
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