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Topic: Technical analysis of the EliteCoin heist - page 2. (Read 2892 times)

legendary
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In other words my wallet in bittrex now have value like to shit if sell now,   but  what about in next years??? I mean I buy expensive shit  it drop
nearly to 1 sat, but tomorrow?Huh

Keep it.. Maybe someday there will "Scam Busters" which are collecting coins from good scams ^^
legendary
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In other words my wallet in bittrex now have value like to shit if sell now,   but  what about in next years??? I mean I buy expensive shit  it drop
nearly to 1 sat, but tomorrow?Huh
legendary
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well guys I am'not coder but it were words of dev:
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Also, about the POW phase, 2 weeks is not a long time. If everybody got used to coins with pow phases of 24~72 hours, it's not our problem. And those kind of coins die in 2 days.

It's been only 3 days, and anything could happen. But we're still here answering all questions, and we're active.
About the dump, NO ONE can control that! People will eventually dump a lot of coins for cheap. Now that the price is stable again, the only way to rise it is holding the coins or buying a big volume at a higher price.

We'll be also buying our own coins, since we started mining like everybody else, yesterday.
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dev begin to mining 24th and dump was 25th, at this point he sell a lot in dump , but he could to buy all again just now, elite could be very valuable in time
because devs dont delete posts, they only lock this, this a signal that coins will continue in a time give to be development by others or even same devs,so
nobody lost nothing only if holder sell,I think that for this reason devs are vanished in launching...........    they are very very smart guys......., anyway they
have control due to they buy again very very cheap......I understand game now..........
legendary
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Noob question how is it possible the explorer from the dev was showing another amount?

Did the coin actually have an explorer ? Wow it was actually SO good organized ? Woooow :-)

I did not notice that..

But the OP of a explorer can fake everything.. I can enter any value you want in my explorer there, I've got access to database behind it..

You'll have to trust a explorer from legit source i.e. only on a domain you know.. I think ssdpool provides explorers too.. I'll add a extra domain for that probably too
hero member
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Noob question how is it possible the explorer from the dev was showing another amount?
legendary
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Merit: 1240

Wow thanks czveda ! You made my day, I totally overlooked that "ly" variable there.. I saw that +1 at the block height and already thought that no checks were performed for block 1 but I missed "ly" totally.

Thank you very much, that explains it pretty much !

np. I was looking at it last night and couldn't figure out initially, it is so easy to misread that "ly" variable. I am not sure that the dev would be caught if he named that variable differently, I doubt that anyone was checking moneysupply function and its output before the dump happened. 

I am usually checking moneysupply before adding if the dev says "NO PREMINE", but I think I'll add a Coinexplorer @ Suprnova to every coin I add a few minutes or hours after launch now too .. there seems to be no decent other way around such things...
sr. member
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Pretty interesting post, something to look out for when speculating on new altcoins.

dont do it! there is a strong possibility that the coin is being launched by a group of criminals who keeps doing the same crime.
sr. member
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Wow thanks czveda ! You made my day, I totally overlooked that "ly" variable there.. I saw that +1 at the block height and already thought that no checks were performed for block 1 but I missed "ly" totally.

Thank you very much, that explains it pretty much !

np. I was looking at it last night and couldn't figure out initially, it is so easy to misread that "ly" variable. I am not sure that the dev would be caught if he named that variable differently, I doubt that anyone was checking moneysupply function and its output before the dump happened. 
full member
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Calling out scams, one HYIP at a time...
Pretty interesting post, something to look out for when speculating on new altcoins.
legendary
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sr. member
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legendary
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PS: Oh and stop that shit and fud about bittrex please, you cannot blame the cardealer when you let your car repair by some strange workshop and then your brakes do not work - the only mistake they made - they did add it even though there was no block explorer available, which I hope they won't in the future..
Difficult for them to automatically check for a premine? It only takes about 10 seconds.

Not without Explorer

They can develop a universal explorer for all coins which support standart bitcoin rpc-methods.
I have simple one, but it's very raw and running from IDE. 250 lines of code, 2-3 hours.
Any developer is not difficult to create it.

If anybody have first version of the wallet i can check it. Maybe the developer applied for something non standard to hide premine.

No, I had no problem importing the Blockchain into a "normal" Abe explorer..

As told already, they made the mistake to not check the coin via explorer, hopefully they won't do it again, but i would not accuse them of scam all the time, there are also a ton of legit coins traded @ bittrex... so calm down... I've also lost some satoshis here as I was mining too.

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this same type of obfuscation wasn't being done only on elitecoin, let's help find where the code was concealing the coins and then figure out which other shitcoins are shitcoins

Its VERY important to find the "bad" parts of the code so I can add them to my regular expressions when searching for bad code to stop adding such coins to (my) pools...  Smiley
hero member
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PS: Oh and stop that shit and fud about bittrex please, you cannot blame the cardealer when you let your car repair by some strange workshop and then your brakes do not work - the only mistake they made - they did add it even though there was no block explorer available, which I hope they won't in the future..
Difficult for them to automatically check for a premine? It only takes about 10 seconds.

Not without Explorer

They can develop a universal explorer for all coins which support standart bitcoin rpc-methods.
I have simple one, but it's very raw and running from IDE. 250 lines of code, 2-3 hours.
Any developer is not difficult to create it.

If anybody have first version of the wallet i can check it. Maybe the developer applied for something non standard to hide premine.
sr. member
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nice job ocminer!

hero member
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quit supporting new shitcoins and the problem is solved.

Not going to happen. Unless....
sr. member
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small fry
this same type of obfuscation wasn't being done only on elitecoin, let's help find where the code was concealing the coins and then figure out which other shitcoins are shitcoins
sr. member
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Merit: 250
quit supporting new shitcoins and the problem is solved.
hero member
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I think this coin is dead. I personally have 5 ELITE mined from launch and I think dead coin may be dead.
I know people loose money on it, but nothing gonna happen, if community takes over then it will die very slowly, but no one gonna refund their loss.

Market is still open on bittrex and price is going up, and people are still happy trading it.

Makes no sense whatsoever.  Undecided

sr. member
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Happens all the time, I told bittrex to check the source code before adding new coins and there reply including there henchmen was. ' it's not our job to check'

The also mentioned that the time involved would mean less coins listed.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
At least this is a good scam. Developer thought it thoroughly to avoid early detection. Not many scam put much effort into scamming. The laziest scam is IPO ICO. Don't even need to launch coin. People fall for it and this will not be the last coin. I hope we can see some real innovation in scamming. I always love a good scam.
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