There is nothing there that meet the forums definition of trolling. Your denial of something that look entirely reasonable and probable is certainly not irrefutable proof tecshare is incorrect. You have history of red tag abuse. I note that before a thread analysing your motives and explanations have result in you yielding. Which add a significant support to his assertion.
"Hope" ? That you, suchmoon and nutildah will start commenting? You members are clearly stalking Tecshare.
Please refrain from cry trolling when people provide an immovable obstacle in the path of your corrupt agenda. You don't like Tecshare then ignore Tecshare.
Stop complaining and crying about senior members with impeccable trade histories. Focus your energy on real scammers like many of your dear friends.
This constant bleating over possible minor infractions of your adversaries, while you support scammers and never come to meta to ask clarification on there scamming ways makes you appear deeply untrustworthy.
No trolling from tecshare.
Topic: Tecshare is trolling!??? - page 2. (Read 574 times)
Just thought this was relevant to the conversation:
Of course, he is the arbiter of what constitutes "illogical semantic games and personal attacks," so he gets to decide when his trolling is justified and when it isn't.
I prefer to have an actual debate if my opponent is capable, but often they are not and resort to all kinds of illogical semantic games and personal attacks. At this point, yes I will absolutely troll them for my own amusement as well as to demonstrate their motivation of arguing from a position of lack of emotional control rather than logic. If you come at me with anything other than solid logic, one way or another I get my pound of flesh.
Of course, he is the arbiter of what constitutes "illogical semantic games and personal attacks," so he gets to decide when his trolling is justified and when it isn't.
Yes, Techy has been trolling for years. Thank you for providing a place to build our trolling case to Theymos.
I'll start with a recent one. Techy made an unfounded accusation against marlboroza.
Marlboroza, public pressure is forcing you to re-add the justified negative, at least until Techy stops making false accusations like this. We've all been a victim of him, and it is very unfair to new members if they can't see it in his trust.
I'll start with a recent one. Techy made an unfounded accusation against marlboroza.
This thread itself documents several instances of negative rating abuse by Marlboroza, of which he was forced to remove under public pressure. This is just his latest attempt to reinstate those abusive ratings.
Marlboroza, public pressure is forcing you to re-add the justified negative, at least until Techy stops making false accusations like this. We've all been a victim of him, and it is very unfair to new members if they can't see it in his trust.
reserved
reserved.
Why oh my?
Case number one:
No and no. [...]
Of course, conversation continued in trolling spirit, tecshare again:
Suchmoon replied again but tecshare continued with trolling:
I already answered in the shortest and most direct way possible, literally in the post you just quoted. I can't help you with your compulsive lying issue, sorry.
You didn't answer my question. You responded to it, but you didn't actually answer it. Oh I am a compulsive liar now? Refractory projection much? Are you taking lessons out of Vod's book now?
Trolling continued:
No and no. Stop using theymos as a crutch when it suits you. He also said "it'd be best to forgive".
Until you, Og, and Vod start seriously working towards deescalation I can't be bothered to care about it anymore. Five minutes of being adults is all it takes. Look at Lauda+Quicksy = ♡. You can do it too, I believe in you, don't let me down.
It seems pretty clear you didn't answer my question at all [...]
Quit lying, the answer is right there, you just disagree with the "no".
My agreement or disagreement is irrelevant. You in fact did not answer my questions. You replied, but you didn't answer them. That is not the same thing.
Trolling continued and moderator at some point removed some posts https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53938737.
Case number two:
[...] You were forced to do so by the same people advising you that these abusive ratings only make you look bad, like what happened just now. [...]
Case number 3:
Case number 4 (trolling using TRUST SYSTEM):
He completely ignored this, like any other troll would...
Or maybe just let the topic die already since there's clearly nothing positive coming out of it? Objectivity was seemingly never the objective, heh.
Maybe you can throw some more circular logic at me. This forum needs objective evidence of theft, violation of contractual agreements, or violation of applicable laws before negative rating or flagging in order to prevent abuse of the trust system that it self can be used to extort people into removing valid negative ratings or flags. Without this, it is a simple task to simply abuse the system to cover up crimes and abuses.
...while lecturing others how to use trust system, he is doing something completely opposite, user in question is part of TECSHARE's trust network, not to mention that TECSHARE it the same topic completely ignored these facts (cases number 5,6,7):
You invited me to topic, I have read it, you said I am trust abuser, you suggested to include those accounts (claiming they are by standards of this guild) and now I ask you why is something which you call trust abuse suggested inclusion?
Can you please provide proof of connection https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53889824
Case number 8 TECSHARE VS moderator Flying Hellfish
In topic about TECSHARE's removed off topic replies, TECSHARE accused moderator that he removed his own topic (it is documented by nutildah)...
As usual the fucking trolls make an assumption and state it as fact. I did NOT delete my thread. [...]
Of course, tecshare is not interested in any kind of discussion, he simple replied:
(there are more tecshare's trolling in that topic)
Case number 9 TECSHARE VS moderator:
Accused moderator that he removed post, while flying hellfish said he didn't do it
...Tecshare continued, even if it was explained to him several times...
I don't care what he did or says. A moderator deleted those posts, this is a fact as evidenced by the quotes. Him claiming not to have done it in a section he is in charge of and just saying it was "some one else" is not a resolution, even if he thinks it is for him. I have absolutely no way to verify anything he says. Me having a log of these acts harms no one, and the only reason this thread exists is so the usual dingle berries have some ass hair to cling on to and create a circus out of it. Be my guest. Clown away and draw even more attention to it.
There are more examples, I will probably post them at some point so reserved...
If anyone has example, feel free to send me PM and I will update topic.
Case number one:
Is the rating I left for Vod valid or not? Are the ratings he left for me valid or not?
No and no. [...]
Of course, conversation continued in trolling spirit, tecshare again:
Is not my rating for Vod valid? Are Vod's negative ratings for me not invalid? Convenient you suddenly can't be bothered when a direct question is asked.
[...]
[...]
Suchmoon replied again but tecshare continued with trolling:
Is not my rating for Vod valid? Are Vod's negative ratings for me not invalid? Convenient you suddenly can't be bothered when a direct question is asked.
I already answered in the shortest and most direct way possible, literally in the post you just quoted. I can't help you with your compulsive lying issue, sorry.
You didn't answer my question. You responded to it, but you didn't actually answer it. Oh I am a compulsive liar now? Refractory projection much? Are you taking lessons out of Vod's book now?
Trolling continued:
Since you answered this question, please quote your answer for clarity, that is unless you are going to take another page from Vod's book and just keep claiming you did while never actually doing it.
Is the rating I left for Vod valid or not? Are the ratings he left for me valid or not?
No and no. Stop using theymos as a crutch when it suits you. He also said "it'd be best to forgive".
Until you, Og, and Vod start seriously working towards deescalation I can't be bothered to care about it anymore. Five minutes of being adults is all it takes. Look at Lauda+Quicksy = ♡. You can do it too, I believe in you, don't let me down.
It seems pretty clear you didn't answer my question at all [...]
It seems pretty clear you didn't answer my question at all
Quit lying, the answer is right there, you just disagree with the "no".
My agreement or disagreement is irrelevant. You in fact did not answer my questions. You replied, but you didn't answer them. That is not the same thing.
Trolling continued and moderator at some point removed some posts https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53938737.
Case number two:
[...]
Who forced me exactly
[...]
This thread itself documents several instances of negative rating abuse by Marlboroza, of which he was forced to remove under public pressure.
Who forced me exactly
[...]
[...] You were forced to do so by the same people advising you that these abusive ratings only make you look bad, like what happened just now. [...]
Case number 3:
^ Don't be. Example:
1) find nutildah's post
2) say something irrelevant for topic(again) and make sure it is something about nutildah which will make them respond (it can be word or one sentence, but strong enough to cause reaction)
You're not the first member to be analyzed in this fashion and you certainly won't be the last. Weeks after getting on DT my reputation was thoroughly savaged. If you can't handle criticism then don't dish it out.
Seems as if my instincts were correct here. You should have taken this as advice to tone it down a bit, but instead you ramped up your involvement in the drama even more. You apparently have lots of alt accounts on the forum which makes your obsession with DT (perhaps quest for eventual DT status as it would appear) even more disturbing.
That's all well and good Quickseller, and thanks for chiming in with your analysis, but could you please stop posting under both of your accounts in the same thread? Its getting rather insulting that you insist we pretend you're not Quickseller (you are -- I'd rather not open a thread in Reputation about it). If you're gonna post in a thread, stick with one account.
Kind of weird that you are using an alt to post in a thread that is largely about alt accounts.
Yeah you like to analyze them real good don't ya? Get up in there deep. Funny how these deep dives always seem to happen when people speak critically of a handful of users here and all of the toadies hop out from the dark to form Doltron. This is just the usual retribution for the crime of open discussion as if the most vocal characters here aren't engaged in exactly all the things they are running around accusing these others of.
3) wait
4) nutildah replied, triggered by troll:
When I said my reputation was savaged weeks after being added to DT, I was referring to actions done by yourself and subsequently cryptohunter. You're in no position to be talking about "usual retribution" here as you tried your hardest to shit on me over an issue you supposedly don't care about, all because of some stuff happening in P&S. Don't play that tune for me, bullshit maestro.
5) Bingo! Continue to troll nutildah in not related thread
6) deflect thread more using "nutildah - bill gator" "argument"
K, doesn't mean you don't have alts.
When I said my reputation was savaged weeks after being added to DT, I was referring to actions done by yourself and subsequently cryptohunter. You're in no position to be talking about "usual retribution" here as you tried your hardest to shit on me over an issue you supposedly don't care about, all because of some stuff happening in P&S. Don't play that tune for me, bullshit maestro.
That wasn't retribution. Retribution for what exactly? When I am talking about retribution in this context I am talking about abusing the trust system to punish people for speaking out. All I did was talk about your history here, I never used the trust system against you. That was me using your own standards against you to show what a total hypocrite you are as you run around accusing people of shit you yourself are guilty of.
You were trying to destroy Bill Gator's rep for speaking out using the fact that he purchased the account as the sole crime he was supposedly guilty of, yet you yourself were engaged in the same activity. Yes yes, you claim you never actually sold it, but you can never prove that, and we all know how much you enjoy speculating, so lets use logical speculation to assume your account was sold too since you can't prove yourself innocent. See how much fun the guilty until proven innocent standard is?
People like you Vod, and Suchgoon keep saying this kind of shit like it is just so obvious I am abusive of the trust system you need never actually give any examples. Then when I press the issue you just again pretend it is self evident and scurry off to your clown holes, or argue over meaningless shit until the topic is sufficiently slid to another subject.
7) hope nutildah will respond again
8 ) drag more people into trolling system
9) hope Vod and Suchmoon will reply
10) rinse and repeat
1) find nutildah's post
2) say something irrelevant for topic(again) and make sure it is something about nutildah which will make them respond (it can be word or one sentence, but strong enough to cause reaction)
I act because I don't enjoy my character being discussed this way.
You're not the first member to be analyzed in this fashion and you certainly won't be the last. Weeks after getting on DT my reputation was thoroughly savaged. If you can't handle criticism then don't dish it out.
If you must know, I distrusted you because I don't trust reformed shitposters that suddenly decide to take an interest in forum issues. You're trying too hard.
Seems as if my instincts were correct here. You should have taken this as advice to tone it down a bit, but instead you ramped up your involvement in the drama even more. You apparently have lots of alt accounts on the forum which makes your obsession with DT (perhaps quest for eventual DT status as it would appear) even more disturbing.
I want to be clear that I do not wish to pass any kind of judgment on hacker.
That's all well and good Quickseller, and thanks for chiming in with your analysis, but could you please stop posting under both of your accounts in the same thread? Its getting rather insulting that you insist we pretend you're not Quickseller (you are -- I'd rather not open a thread in Reputation about it). If you're gonna post in a thread, stick with one account.
Kind of weird that you are using an alt to post in a thread that is largely about alt accounts.
Yeah you like to analyze them real good don't ya? Get up in there deep. Funny how these deep dives always seem to happen when people speak critically of a handful of users here and all of the toadies hop out from the dark to form Doltron. This is just the usual retribution for the crime of open discussion as if the most vocal characters here aren't engaged in exactly all the things they are running around accusing these others of.
3) wait
4) nutildah replied, triggered by troll:
Yeah you like to analyze them real good don't ya? Get up in there deep. Funny how these deep dives always seem to happen when people speak critically of a handful of users here and all of the toadies hop out from the dark to form Doltron. This is just the usual retribution for the crime of open discussion as if the most vocal characters here aren't engaged in exactly all the things they are running around accusing these others of.
When I said my reputation was savaged weeks after being added to DT, I was referring to actions done by yourself and subsequently cryptohunter. You're in no position to be talking about "usual retribution" here as you tried your hardest to shit on me over an issue you supposedly don't care about, all because of some stuff happening in P&S. Don't play that tune for me, bullshit maestro.
5) Bingo! Continue to troll nutildah in not related thread
6) deflect thread more using "nutildah - bill gator" "argument"
I mean I am not in control of any accounts accused above others than this ( not logged in from 2 years ).
K, doesn't mean you don't have alts.
Yeah you like to analyze them real good don't ya? Get up in there deep. Funny how these deep dives always seem to happen when people speak critically of a handful of users here and all of the toadies hop out from the dark to form Doltron. This is just the usual retribution for the crime of open discussion as if the most vocal characters here aren't engaged in exactly all the things they are running around accusing these others of.
When I said my reputation was savaged weeks after being added to DT, I was referring to actions done by yourself and subsequently cryptohunter. You're in no position to be talking about "usual retribution" here as you tried your hardest to shit on me over an issue you supposedly don't care about, all because of some stuff happening in P&S. Don't play that tune for me, bullshit maestro.
That wasn't retribution. Retribution for what exactly? When I am talking about retribution in this context I am talking about abusing the trust system to punish people for speaking out. All I did was talk about your history here, I never used the trust system against you. That was me using your own standards against you to show what a total hypocrite you are as you run around accusing people of shit you yourself are guilty of.
You were trying to destroy Bill Gator's rep for speaking out using the fact that he purchased the account as the sole crime he was supposedly guilty of, yet you yourself were engaged in the same activity. Yes yes, you claim you never actually sold it, but you can never prove that, and we all know how much you enjoy speculating, so lets use logical speculation to assume your account was sold too since you can't prove yourself innocent. See how much fun the guilty until proven innocent standard is?
People like you Vod, and Suchgoon keep saying this kind of shit like it is just so obvious I am abusive of the trust system you need never actually give any examples. Then when I press the issue you just again pretend it is self evident and scurry off to your clown holes, or argue over meaningless shit until the topic is sufficiently slid to another subject.
7) hope nutildah will respond again
8 ) drag more people into trolling system
9) hope Vod and Suchmoon will reply
10) rinse and repeat
Case number 4 (trolling using TRUST SYSTEM):
Topic seems quiet lately 
This is trust abuse according to rules of this guild, not to mention some ratings are real trust abuse (note: I didn't check references of unmarked negative trust ratings)
Core tenets:
1. A standard of evidence of theft, violation of contractual agreement, or violation of applicable laws shall be documented in an objective and observable way before negative rating or flagging users.
2. Accusations without some form of documentation should be minimal.
3. Users who regularly and repeatedly ignore these standards should be excluded from trust lists.
4. Users who follow these standards should be included in trust lists.
5. Users who are subjected to accusations and ratings without any form of documentation should be defended and supported as much as possible.
There is no inherent hierarchy. Anyone is free to call themselves a member of The Objective Standards Guild as long as they follow its tenets. Using the avatar below and linking to this thread in your signature is encouraged. Lets work together to bring a balance of power to this forum and check its culture of rampant and systemic abuse. Feel free to suggest your own inclusions and exclusions based on these standards.
1. A standard of evidence of theft, violation of contractual agreement, or violation of applicable laws shall be documented in an objective and observable way before negative rating or flagging users.
2. Accusations without some form of documentation should be minimal.
3. Users who regularly and repeatedly ignore these standards should be excluded from trust lists.
4. Users who follow these standards should be included in trust lists.
5. Users who are subjected to accusations and ratings without any form of documentation should be defended and supported as much as possible.
There is no inherent hierarchy. Anyone is free to call themselves a member of The Objective Standards Guild as long as they follow its tenets. Using the avatar below and linking to this thread in your signature is encouraged. Lets work together to bring a balance of power to this forum and check its culture of rampant and systemic abuse. Feel free to suggest your own inclusions and exclusions based on these standards.
This is trust abuse according to rules of this guild, not to mention some ratings are real trust abuse (note: I didn't check references of unmarked negative trust ratings)
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5. Users who are subjected to accusations and ratings without any form of documentation should be defended and supported as much as possible.
Do correct thing @TECSHARE and thank you for this topic.He completely ignored this, like any other troll would...
Cmon, let him act on this one to show he stands behind his words.
Or maybe just let the topic die already since there's clearly nothing positive coming out of it? Objectivity was seemingly never the objective, heh.
Maybe you can throw some more circular logic at me. This forum needs objective evidence of theft, violation of contractual agreements, or violation of applicable laws before negative rating or flagging in order to prevent abuse of the trust system that it self can be used to extort people into removing valid negative ratings or flags. Without this, it is a simple task to simply abuse the system to cover up crimes and abuses.
None of the people objecting here want to have an honest debate about the topic, that is the problem.
Nonsense! I want to have a honest debate about the topic, seems you don't. I don't see any logical explanation why you don't want to address these not-by-standards-suggested-inclusions-of-yours:You invited me to topic, I have read it, you said I am trust abuser, you suggested to include those accounts (claiming they are by standards of this guild) and now I ask you why is something which you call trust abuse suggested inclusion?
Can you please provide proof of connection https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53889824
Case number 8 TECSHARE VS moderator Flying Hellfish
In topic about TECSHARE's removed off topic replies, TECSHARE accused moderator that he removed his own topic (it is documented by nutildah)...
Now Flying Hellfish is resorting to deleting entire topics just because they embarrass him?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pussygate-a-collection-of-trump-investigations-5065043
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pussygate-a-collection-of-trump-investigations-5065043
As usual the fucking trolls make an assumption and state it as fact. I did NOT delete my thread. [...]
Of course, tecshare is not interested in any kind of discussion, he simple replied:
Just because you are allowed to do it doesn't mean it does not reflect poorly on you. Thanks everyone for helping me draw more attention to these issues. Much appreciated.
(there are more tecshare's trolling in that topic)
Case number 9 TECSHARE VS moderator:
Accused moderator that he removed post, while flying hellfish said he didn't do it
For the record,
As with most of the claims in the locked thread about me this is not my doing (this being the latest as of this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53786636 ) [...]
As with most of the claims in the locked thread about me this is not my doing (this being the latest as of this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53786636 ) [...]
[...] Since I didn't delete the post I don't know which thread it was in and in reality everything after that is entirely moot.
...Tecshare continued, even if it was explained to him several times...
I think he just overlooked the possibility that you were responding to my post in a thread I didn't post in.
Are you accusing him of lying about deleting your post? Seems unlikely to me, but this isn't the first time he has explicitly told you that he didn't delete a post from your "FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP" thread, and you seem to just not care.
If you think he's lying, call him out on it and maybe we can get to the bottom of it.
If you don't think he's lying, then remove the posts he says he didn't delete.
Or do nothing if you don't care if your accusations against FH are accurate or not.
Are you accusing him of lying about deleting your post? Seems unlikely to me, but this isn't the first time he has explicitly told you that he didn't delete a post from your "FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP" thread, and you seem to just not care.
If you think he's lying, call him out on it and maybe we can get to the bottom of it.
If you don't think he's lying, then remove the posts he says he didn't delete.
Or do nothing if you don't care if your accusations against FH are accurate or not.
I don't care what he did or says. A moderator deleted those posts, this is a fact as evidenced by the quotes. Him claiming not to have done it in a section he is in charge of and just saying it was "some one else" is not a resolution, even if he thinks it is for him. I have absolutely no way to verify anything he says. Me having a log of these acts harms no one, and the only reason this thread exists is so the usual dingle berries have some ass hair to cling on to and create a circus out of it. Be my guest. Clown away and draw even more attention to it.
There are more examples, I will probably post them at some point so reserved...
If anyone has example, feel free to send me PM and I will update topic.
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