not exactly sure if the concept is really provably fair or not , but in the first place why to use telegram instead of a site ??
everytime I see telegram involved with money I remember larawith me the famous ponzi site that used to telegram and then collapsed with millions of dollars
new ideas are good but don't like this one in specific
Topic: [TELEGRAM-DICE.COM][A Dice Game on Telegram] Join And Get [Free 150 Satoshi] - page 2. (Read 452 times)
March 23, 2018, 01:53:40 PM
March 23, 2018, 01:24:49 PM
I would not trust this site/bot. They claim that your roll comes from the most recent Bitcoin transaction, but the Bitcoin network receives many transactions per second, and the time for them to propagate to all nodes can be multiple seconds. Therefore every node receives transactions in a different order, and this site could simply pick a number that benefits them. As there is no way for you as a user to definitively see the number they came up with was non-biased, THIS GAME IS NOT PROVABLY FAIR.
So claiming that you know the truth and writing it in bold and very big , is a little snooty coming from somone who are promoting another dice in his banner. Any way this is not the subject.
-Our system don't pick the best favorable tx id for the site it will be clear that we are tricking the result when many player are betting , and this give as more work to do just to create a tricker.
-the bot just compare your roll with the last tx recived , belive or not it's realy your problem
- and you claim that other dice that generate number are more provably fair ( it's your opinion too)
You have not addressed my points, only claimed that you are not cheating. Saying you're not cheating is not the same as proving you're not cheating. If me or anybody else cannot definitively prove you are not cheating then you are not provably fair. This is not my opinion. The burden of proof is on you, the person claiming to be fair.
March 23, 2018, 07:19:57 AM
March 23, 2018, 06:30:38 AM
Gambling on Telegram ? Seriously ? Worst idea ever.Apart from the legal obligations,do you even a customer support or any point of contact if in case any issues ? Bot is not a reliable entity if you're actually serious about your business.
How can one verify if the dice rolls are provably fair ? There's no mention about it on the main thread.
How can one verify if the dice rolls are provably fair ? There's no mention about it on the main thread.
First Thank you for your interest ,
It's maybe the worst idea ever made in the univers, but we think it's better than just doing a classic clone of existing dice . Why telegram , we are devlopping many other stuff in telegram and we thought that people can like the idea ( not you as i can see 😊)
Provably fair, for now only who bet can see the transaction id as a proof, we will add very soon this proof in the site for every bet as live data : https://telegram-dice.com
For the support a live channel will be done for suppot
Thank you
March 23, 2018, 05:58:22 AM
Gambling on Telegram ? Seriously ? Worst idea ever.Apart from the legal obligations,do you even a customer support or any point of contact if in case any issues ? Bot is not a reliable entity if you're actually serious about your business.
How can one verify if the dice rolls are provably fair ? There's no mention about it on the main thread.
How can one verify if the dice rolls are provably fair ? There's no mention about it on the main thread.
March 23, 2018, 04:38:20 AM
I would not trust this site/bot. They claim that your roll comes from the most recent Bitcoin transaction, but the Bitcoin network receives many transactions per second, and the time for them to propagate to all nodes can be multiple seconds. Therefore every node receives transactions in a different order, and this site could simply pick a number that benefits them. As there is no way for you as a user to definitively see the number they came up with was non-biased, THIS GAME IS NOT PROVABLY FAIR.
So claiming that you know the truth and writing it in bold and very big , is a little snooty coming from somone who are promoting another dice in his banner. Any way this is not the subject.
-Our system don't pick the best favorable tx id for the site it will be clear that we are tricking the result when many player are betting , and this give as more work to do just to create a tricker.
-the bot just compare your roll with the last tx recived , belive or not it's realy your problem
- and you claim that other dice that generate number are more provably fair ( it's your opinion too)
Our system is provably fair
March 22, 2018, 06:22:49 PM
I would not trust this site/bot. They claim that your roll comes from the most recent Bitcoin transaction, but the Bitcoin network receives many transactions per second, and the time for them to propagate to all nodes can be multiple seconds. Therefore every node receives transactions in a different order, and this site could simply pick a number that benefits them. As there is no way for you as a user to definitively see the number they came up with was non-biased, THIS GAME IS NOT PROVABLY FAIR.
March 22, 2018, 05:50:14 PM
If your random numbers are really created from the most recent Bitcoin transaction, that's seriously the worst idea I've ever heard of. Anybody could just wait until a transaction that gives them a favorable result comes in then immediately bet.
Hi
I respect your opinion , but for as it's the best provably fair option , maybe we are doing it wrong
We are in the first step of launch and test , and we will try to improve the system in the futur
Thank you for your interest
March 22, 2018, 05:38:43 PM
If your random numbers are really created from the most recent Bitcoin transaction, that's seriously the worst idea I've ever heard of. Anybody could just wait until a transaction that gives them a favorable result comes in then immediately bet.
March 22, 2018, 05:33:55 PM
Looks its working as I have tested few rolls, I get tx hash which I can verify on blockchain, just wondering how system picks up those numbers like its the last tx at the time of roll or system grab few tx from the latest transactions and than display result. If bet size is big than system can manipulate the result and only display tx that has last 4 letter against player 
I won't be playing with bigger amount on this one but for small bets I think it will work. OP add autobet feature on your bot...
I won't be playing with bigger amount on this one but for small bets I think it will work. OP add autobet feature on your bot...
Hi and thank you for your interest
1-So , the result is based in the last tx at the time of roll, and the result is instant so we can't trick the result . You can verify by your self by dooing few free roll
2- we are working in the autobet , adding x2, /2 ,max and min . The update will be done as soon as possible
Any other suggestion are welcom
Thank you
March 22, 2018, 04:01:36 PM
Looks its working as I have tested few rolls, I get tx hash which I can verify on blockchain, just wondering how system picks up those numbers like its the last tx at the time of roll or system grab few tx from the latest transactions and than display result. If bet size is big than system can manipulate the result and only display tx that has last 4 letter against player
I won't be playing with bigger amount on this one but for small bets I think it will work. OP add autobet feature on your bot...
I won't be playing with bigger amount on this one but for small bets I think it will work. OP add autobet feature on your bot...
March 22, 2018, 01:33:00 PM
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1. Click on [Dice] key
2. Choose your win chance and bet
3. Your bet amount is set by default to 0.00000010 BTC
4. You can set your bet amount with [Set my bet amount] and enter a valid amount
5. Minimum bet amount is 0.00000010 BTC
6. Max profit per bet is 0.10000000 BTC
Provably fair
🤖Update :
To generate a roll number between 0 and 9,999 we combine your Server Seed, your Client Seed and your Nonce (Telegram Message ID).
Bets are instantly verifiable
Update : you can now verify all bet in live data: Visit https://telegram-dice.com
Welcome to SATOSHI DICE BOT a BITCOIN dice game in TELEGRAM
Start playing and enjoy free 150 satoshi
Visit https://telegram-dice.com for faucet and live data.
or join the game via: https://telegram.me/satoshi_dice_bot
How to play?Start playing and enjoy free 150 satoshi
Visit https://telegram-dice.com for faucet and live data.
or join the game via: https://telegram.me/satoshi_dice_bot
🤖
1. Click on [Dice] key
2. Choose your win chance and bet
3. Your bet amount is set by default to 0.00000010 BTC
4. You can set your bet amount with [Set my bet amount] and enter a valid amount
5. Minimum bet amount is 0.00000010 BTC
6. Max profit per bet is 0.10000000 BTC
Provably fair
🤖Update :
To generate a roll number between 0 and 9,999 we combine your Server Seed, your Client Seed and your Nonce (Telegram Message ID).
Bets are instantly verifiable
Update : you can now verify all bet in live data: Visit https://telegram-dice.com
If you have any question just ask, Enjoy
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