Telegram (GRAM tokens) to be live in few weeks - page 2.

DaMut

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Quote from: Apened on October 20, 2019, 10:08:17 AM

where did you get the news? That's a bad thing and i also invested on gram. I don't know what's going to happen eversince this SEC is holding back big projects even the team is coordinating way back in the past and now when gram is successful and scheduled they are opening up for a possible case that they can issue. This is only for my own opinion

you can read about the delay here https://cointelegraph.com/news/tons-force-majeure-clause-is-telegram-about-to-refund-investors
from the news above, it seems like they are going to "keep" investors money until the date. Unless you are a US-based investor, there will be a way for you to take it back if you are insisting to.

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Quote from: Bitcoin+Fi on October 17, 2019, 02:10:24 PM

It was reported that the launch of TON has been postponed to April, and I think there are both pros and cons to this, but so far I see more disadvantages, because the team has not had time to implement their project

where did you get the news? That's a bad thing and i also invested on gram. I don't know what's going to happen eversince this SEC is holding back big projects even the team is coordinating way back in the past and now when gram is successful and scheduled they are opening up for a possible case that they can issue. This is only for my own opinion

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For the hype, sure the gram token will get a very good profit, because the supply is very little and the announcement for this coin has been on for a very long time now which people are willing to buy, and exhausting 2 million token is really nothing to people, for the fact that gram is a very good project and not a scam coin.

So many investors are looking for coins that they can invest in and be sure that it is being handled by a solid team and we know the role that gram has really played in the social media platform for a long time now, so I think that gram coin will really give lots of profit, and I wish I can also buy from it, but the supply is still low that it will get sold out easily and the starting price is very cheap for that $3, this coin might grow to $10 after the sales.

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It was reported that the launch of TON has been postponed to April, and I think there are both pros and cons to this, but so far I see more disadvantages, because the team has not had time to implement their project

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Quote from: Ferris419 on October 17, 2019, 11:37:27 AM

Telegram's GRAM token launching has been paused for now and I think SEC will not allow it very soon. Everyone was very excited to see the TON blockchain in live! But now investors are worried about the current issue. I believe Telegram will overcome all the obstacles over time and 1.7 billion USD would not go in vain. Crypto needs Libra, TON badly to get massive mass adoption.

It seems to me that Telegram has a much better chance of implementing its project than Facebook has. With regard to Libra, many leading countries, including the USA, France and Germany, spoke negatively and at the same time, a ban on the implementation of this project has already been passed. But with TON, the situation is completely different, since SEC only recognized certain violations at the start of the sale, which in my opinion can be corrected. I hope that no sanctions will be applied to Telegram and TON will be fully implemented by the team.

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Telegram's GRAM token launching has been paused for now and I think SEC will not allow it very soon. Everyone was very excited to see the TON blockchain in live! But now investors are worried about the current issue. I believe Telegram will overcome all the obstacles over time and 1.7 billion USD would not go in vain. Crypto needs Libra, TON badly to get massive mass adoption.

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TON blockchain project launch has been pushed back already. Telegram said the deadline would be on April 20 next year! And they also said the deadline could be extended with the consent of the investors. If you are a second round investor and majority of your lot rejects the deadline extension, you get back 77% of your investment.

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Quote from: cribusen on October 13, 2019, 11:42:28 AM

Just wait for official announcements from team members. As far as I know GRAM tokens cannot be sold, it is forbidden. Those who are selling are going against Telegram team decisions and can easily be scammed at the end.

The United States has secured a temporary suspension of the initial placement of tokens in the country and abroad by Telegram and its subsidiary TON Issuer Inc. The agency believes that operations with the Gram cryptocurrency were carried out without the necessary registration. So, Telegram might have problems (temporary, I believe) in the nearest month, but GRAM will live I am sure.

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Quote from: EdvinZ on October 13, 2019, 05:40:28 AM

The recent precedent of the TON project team with the US securities commission SEC could cause serious damage to the reputation of the Gram coin. Many already even doubt, and whether Pavel Durov will be able to distribute to all investors private keys and coins till the end of October or perhaps this term will be corrected. Bad news for the community.

And again,,, what does it teach us about centralized projects? That they just simply have too big a point of failure. I think we who believe in decentralized tech have to choose a side. We want to play buddy buddy with regulations and then comply? Or we want to try and make things as transparent and democratic as we can? Choose the side!

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The fact that exchanges resell the Gram token before its official launch may indicate that they are afraid of the latest news that the US securities Commission SEC has banned the sale of Gram. Perhaps the exchanges do not believe that the project network will be launched on time. In any case, reselling Gram tokens, these sites already have a good profit and may just want to fix it and invest in other projects.

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this is crazy. It is actually a rather thoughtless act of CEO of GRAM when they sell their tokens at a low exchange. This is a big mistake because the community will think this is a project that is lacking in capital and needs to be mobilized a lot at reputable exchanges.
I think the future of GRAM is quite unclear if their CEO keeps coming up with these solutions.

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Quote from: AUruHM on October 13, 2019, 01:42:57 PM

I'm sure Durov&Co will find a solution with SEC. And now it's a good reason to postpone the release. Simply manipulations and nothing more.
As I see team works with SEC and today they have been surprised such a decision, I think some whales can't buy and be initiated in such way. SEC doesn't want to allow real independent and uncontrollable competitor for USD and Libra.

The court is the only solution consider about telegram has violated some law in the US regarding its illegal security offering for US customer. A lot of platforms have already started to refund the money from US buyers.

Look at kin and it gives you a lot of lesson how difficult to deal with SEC.
This is not a competitor for libra or USD and please read more and try to understand more about what TON coin is.

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Quote from: Cryptotaran on October 10, 2019, 02:24:20 AM

Hello, everyone!

As you know or don't know, GRAM tokens will be distributed to their buyers and will be sold in the market.

However, current pricing as I can see varies from 3$ to 5$ per token.

I don't know exactly the technology behind and actually I am not interested so, the thing is do you believe that GRAM token can skyrocket once launched?

There are many factors why it should and why it shouldn't.

Does anyone know at what price all those VC's bought GRAM tokens?

I saw there is happening some reselling of GRAMs before they are live, for example on ExMarkets exchange those tokens are priced at $3.30 currently. If on the first day it will be listed at 5$, I believe I am going for it.

link to exchange - https://exmarkets.com/launchpad

Looking for your opinions!

No it won't be live in few weeks. The SEC has halted its distribution, so I don't know what they'll do now, but it would be very complicated https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2019-212

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Quote from: Anonylz on October 12, 2019, 12:31:55 PM

I wonder what will happen to investors, whether they are going to make refunds or it will be resolve soon enough, this does not look like a good beginning.

If there's going to be a refund, it will be only to the US-based buyers who are only about 31 entities/persons which is 14.6 percent of the total dollar value raised in the ICO sale.

I think this is the most logical "next steps."

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I'm sure Durov&Co will find a solution with SEC. And now it's a good reason to postpone the release. Simply manipulations and nothing more.
As I see team works with SEC and today they have been surprised such a decision, I think some whales can't buy and be initiated in such way. SEC doesn't want to allow real independent and uncontrollable competitor for USD and Libra.

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Quote from: EdvinZ on October 13, 2019, 05:40:28 AM

The recent precedent of the TON project team with the US securities commission SEC could cause serious damage to the reputation of the Gram coin.

The SEC is claiming that the telegram team did not register with them about the sale and it is illegal according to them and hence they issued the restraining order. It is interesting to know whether they will continue with the launch by the end of this month or will try to sort the issue because the team should know that they will be facing these legal issues when they planned the project .

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Just wait for official announcements from team members. As far as I know GRAM tokens cannot be sold, it is forbidden. Those who are selling are going against Telegram team decisions and can easily be scammed at the end.

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I didn't expected that Telegram tokens would be initially offered in exmarkets. I am expecting more in binance or kucoin, somewhat one of the biggest exchanges there is. Anyway, what's the news regarding the halt of the IEO?

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Quote from: target on October 10, 2019, 07:19:09 AM

$3.5 each would be too much for a coin that you don't even know what its use in their messenger app. Whatever factor it is that OP said that will affect the price to go up will just be ignored by the traders. Its those private investors that will be the first to dump here so you can just wait and buy when the market is over sold. Is GRAM really worth investing?

It is already 4 dollar rate in their site it will be worth selling after dumping soon, 4 dollar is too expensive for the investors I dont know if the 12 million supply is already sold out and when it will be available in the market for trade?

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Quote from: EdvinZ on October 13, 2019, 05:40:28 AM

The recent precedent of the TON project team with the US securities commission SEC could cause serious damage to the reputation of the Gram coin. Many already even doubt, and whether Pavel Durov will be able to distribute to all investors private keys and coins till the end of October or perhaps this term will be corrected. Bad news for the community.

Bad news for all crypto enthusiasts, worse news for all GRAM buyers in the US. This is a below the belt move actually on the part of the SEC. They should have stopped the sale in their jurisdiction before the offering took place and not before the distribution. What will happen now to all investors? Either Telegram will make a refund to the US investors which is certainly huge, or pay the ransom to the SEC, or withdraw distribution in the US without paying at all.

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