Televangelists/Christians in the US - tax free, legal scams

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Quote from: Moloch on February 17, 2016, 01:34:43 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on February 17, 2016, 01:24:38 AM

Quote from: Moloch on February 17, 2016, 01:01:29 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on February 17, 2016, 12:27:05 AM

TELEVANGELISTS: 'Fleecing the Flock':
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82YvHx9Cek

The problem I have with these guys is they are not stupid...

They are under no illusion that religion is real... they are con artists, plain and simple

If they were not preachers, they would be in prison...

The saddest part is that some people die from the "healing" these Christian preachers provide. See around 57+ min mark on that video for examples.

Robert Tilton was pulling 80M+/yr in his hay days, tax free. Sickening...

If I were a greedy sociopath, I'd be a Televangelist too... easy money, no chance of going to prison for being a con artist...

You only work 2 hours each week... telling people what to think and collecting millions of dollars... while they practically worship you as a god... who wouldn't want that?

I wouldn't lose a night's sleep over the people I killed... because, I'm now a filthy rich sociopath with tons of adoring fans, and plenty of time on my hands...

Yeah that's disgusting, I don't understand why those kind of sects are not forbiden in the USA! That's totally illegal in Europe (that's why there aren't any or they don't spread for long)

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Quote from: Moloch on February 17, 2016, 01:34:43 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on February 17, 2016, 01:24:38 AM

Quote from: Moloch on February 17, 2016, 01:01:29 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on February 17, 2016, 12:27:05 AM

TELEVANGELISTS: 'Fleecing the Flock':
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82YvHx9Cek

The problem I have with these guys is they are not stupid...

They are under no illusion that religion is real... they are con artists, plain and simple

If they were not preachers, they would be in prison...

The saddest part is that some people die from the "healing" these Christian preachers provide. See around 57+ min mark on that video for examples.

Robert Tilton was pulling 80M+/yr in his hay days, tax free. Sickening...

If I were a greedy sociopath, I'd be a Televangelist too... easy money, no chance of going to prison for being a con artist...

You only work 2 hours each week... telling people what to think and collecting millions of dollars... while they practically worship you as a god... who wouldn't want that?

I wouldn't lose a night's sleep over the people I killed... because, I'm now a filthy rich sociopath with tons of adoring fans, and plenty of time on my hands...

Private yacht, private jet, private helicopter, 7 luxury cars - come on, it's a dream life.
Do you have any idea how much other people work for this kind of stuff?
These people are smart. They've found a loophole and they are milking it 100%.
Oh, and they also don't pay tax, they have fans, and do very little work. I'm sure even rockstars envy them.

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Insane TV Christian Preachers:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqaZnLHgvFk

Worse TV Preacher awards:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgmg-NMTJ9E

TV Preachers - Bam, Bam Bam:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHXHlqybK1Y

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Quote from: af_newbie on February 16, 2016, 07:57:27 PM

Televangelists in America. Angels, born again Christians, "angels on your body", ointments, devil, bad angels, all nine yards.

Exposé of religious crooks.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXVwkLQR3GM

TELEVANGELISTS: 'Fleecing the Flock':
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82YvHx9Cek

Crazy things preachers say:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUP7r5S6rRw

Crazy things creationists say:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK7i-dtMaWk

Preachers gone wild:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTCiMxPz2Qg

Crazy things Christians say:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfUSzaKrxD8

Kirk Cameron - How God created man? (He is not joking):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8GvccVRub8

Speaking in Tongues Exposed:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcd1a68YQq0

Jesus camp for kids (very disturbing):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac

Christian child abuse (al-Qaeda style):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3gPpPoWEBg

Raising a monster. Christian Home Schooling:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEPn9spdr5A

Brainwashing children: Jesus Camp - 2006 Documentary (full version):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy_u4U7-cn8

Sarah Palin witchcraft ceremony:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwkb9_zB2Pg

The craziest claim by a creationist (how dragons were created):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK6tkcxAHIw

Warning: PG rated.

they are as bad as isis terorrists.. but they are so professional at brainwashing.. this one is really worse than isis stuff i think all these religious groups must be banned..

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Quote from: McDonalds5 on February 17, 2016, 12:05:26 PM

Money making "christianity" is not from God and should be banned

Well one could wonder why Christians have so much money when you know that Jesus himself said rich wouldn't go to heaven while poor would...

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Quote from: McDonalds5 on February 17, 2016, 12:05:26 PM

Money making "christianity" is not from God and should be banned

and the "healing Christianity" is? They kill people with this nonsense.

Watch the videos, some are disturbing, they almost paralyzed the guy right on the stage. In the name of Jesus Lord and Savior.

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Money making "christianity" is not from God and should be banned

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Quote from: Moloch on February 17, 2016, 01:34:43 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on February 17, 2016, 01:24:38 AM

Quote from: Moloch on February 17, 2016, 01:01:29 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on February 17, 2016, 12:27:05 AM

TELEVANGELISTS: 'Fleecing the Flock':
-------------------------------------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82YvHx9Cek

The problem I have with these guys is they are not stupid...

They are under no illusion that religion is real... they are con artists, plain and simple

If they were not preachers, they would be in prison...

The saddest part is that some people die from the "healing" these Christian preachers provide. See around 57+ min mark on that video for examples.

Robert Tilton was pulling 80M+/yr in his hay days, tax free. Sickening...

If I were a greedy sociopath, I'd be a Televangelist too... easy money, no chance of going to prison for being a con artist...

You only work 2 hours each week... telling people what to think and collecting millions of dollars... while they practically worship you as a god... who wouldn't want that?

I wouldn't lose a night's sleep over the people I killed... because, I'm now a filthy rich sociopath with tons of adoring fans, and plenty of time on my hands...

There is no difference between preaching, offering prays for money and Nigerian inheritance scams. Well, the only difference is that one is legal the other is not.

This will continue until churches are stripped of their income tax exemption status. Once they are officially operating as for profit businesses, maybe people will see what they really are.

Right now, it is still a 'Wild West' for these crooks.

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Quote from: af_newbie on February 17, 2016, 01:24:38 AM

Quote from: Moloch on February 17, 2016, 01:01:29 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on February 17, 2016, 12:27:05 AM

TELEVANGELISTS: 'Fleecing the Flock':
-------------------------------------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82YvHx9Cek

The problem I have with these guys is they are not stupid...

They are under no illusion that religion is real... they are con artists, plain and simple

If they were not preachers, they would be in prison...

The saddest part is that some people die from the "healing" these Christian preachers provide. See around 57+ min mark on that video for examples.

Robert Tilton was pulling 80M+/yr in his hay days, tax free. Sickening...

If I were a greedy sociopath, I'd be a Televangelist too... easy money, no chance of going to prison for being a con artist...

You only work 2 hours each week... telling people what to think and collecting millions of dollars... while they practically worship you as a god... who wouldn't want that?

I wouldn't lose a night's sleep over the people I killed... because, I'm now a filthy rich sociopath with tons of adoring fans, and plenty of time on my hands...

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Quote from: Moloch on February 17, 2016, 01:01:29 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on February 17, 2016, 12:27:05 AM

TELEVANGELISTS: 'Fleecing the Flock':
-------------------------------------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82YvHx9Cek

The problem I have with these guys is they are not stupid...

They are under no illusion that religion is real... they are con artists, plain and simple

If they were not preachers, they would be in prison...

The saddest part is that some people die from the "healing" these Christian preachers provide. See around 57+ min mark on that video for examples.

Robert Tilton was pulling 80M+/yr in his hay days, tax free. Sickening...

Moloch

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Quote from: af_newbie on February 17, 2016, 12:27:05 AM

TELEVANGELISTS: 'Fleecing the Flock':
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82YvHx9Cek

The problem I have with these guys is they are not stupid...

They are under no illusion that religion is real... they are con artists, plain and simple

If they were not preachers, they would be in prison...

af_newbie

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TELEVANGELISTS: 'Fleecing the Flock':
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82YvHx9Cek

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Quote from: Moloch on February 17, 2016, 12:08:36 AM

Much like the flu... children and the elderly are particularly susceptible to religion

Children are indoctrinated by their parents, who they trust 100% to tell them the truth (for some strange reason)

The elderly are near death, and grasp at any religion which promises of an afterlife

When your kids are old enough, like 12-14, tell them not to trust anyone (including you), not to trust authority (teachers/parents/grandparents), read and figure stuff for yourself. Question everything. And never believe in supernatural shit, unless there is scientific evidence for it.

I did that with my kids. They developed pretty good critical thinking skills. They can smell BS from a mile away. No matter if it comes from a teacher, preacher, politician or a car salesman.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on February 16, 2016, 10:16:01 PM

Nope, all lightbulbs are long burned out and there is a half inch of dust that's accumulated on the surface. The power of belief is just incredible. It shuts off all rational thought processes and one's brain becomes steak tartar. I tend to love this stuff too but I only admit it online under the cloak of pseudo-anonymity. It's like masturbating in the bathroom. But I don't do that, I was talking about other people.

I've been trying to come up with a reply for this, but all I can think of is... hahahahahaha

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The bible warned us about these kind of teachings.
2 Timothy 4:3-4 - For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

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Much like the flu... children and the elderly are particularly susceptible to religion

Children are indoctrinated by their parents, who they trust 100% to tell them the truth (for some strange reason)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indoctrination#Religious

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Indoctrination is the process of forcibly inculcating ideas, attitudes, cognitive strategies or a professional methodology (see doctrine) by coercion

The elderly are near death, and grasp at any religion which promises of an afterlife

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Quote from: gentlemand on February 16, 2016, 08:16:31 PM

I love this stuff. I can never get over the fact that grown human beings fall for this shit in their millions. Do they never notice the constant demands for money? Does that not set off a little light in their heads? Guess not.

Nope, all lightbulbs are long burned out and there is a half inch of dust that's accumulated on the surface. The power of belief is just incredible. It shuts off all rational thought processes and one's brain becomes steak tartar. I tend to love this stuff too but I only admit it online under the cloak of pseudo-anonymity. It's like masturbating in the bathroom. But I don't do that, I was talking about other people.

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Quote from: af_newbie on February 16, 2016, 08:24:25 PM

Crazy things preachers say:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUP7r5S6rRw

Good stuff

I also like things even Christians will disagree about, like speaking in tongues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcd1a68YQq0

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Quote from: Melech on February 16, 2016, 08:32:10 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on February 16, 2016, 08:26:31 PM

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Westboro Baptist Church - #1 hate church in America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMbfQ117Jts

To be completely fair, WBC is just trolling...

I have it on good authority, that nearly every member of that "church" is a lawyer... they get their money by protesting soldier funerals, calling them fags... then when someone throws a punch, they sue...

I don't think the WBC actually believes what they say... they are simply trolls who are playing a game for money

I almost feel like they are trolling Christians by being extreme literalists (fundamentalists)...

I wondered about it, who would hire them?

They must believe in this BS, how else you can do it with a straight face, you would slip up sooner or later....

They could believe it... who really knows

Nobody needs to hire them... it's almost entrapment... they protest and say offensive things, until someone assaults them... then they sue the person in civil court for loads of $$
http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-how-the-reviled-westboro-baptist-church-makes-money-2015-6

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The marine’s family eventually paid WBC $16,510

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the city of Bellevue paid Phelps-Roper $17,000

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WBC in 1995 won more than $100,000 from a lawsuit against the Kansas’ Funeral Picketing Act because it was a violation of the First Amendment

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Members are required to give 30 percent of their income to the church, which is tax deductible for the donor since WBC is technically a religious organization

(it's also technically a hate group)

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Phelps, (who was disbarred by the Kansas Supreme Court in 1979 for his lack of ethics) and several members are lawyers

Basically scamming the system, legally. Nice. People should just ignore them. They are so offensive on so many levels. It is hard.

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Quote from: af_newbie on February 16, 2016, 08:26:31 PM

Quote from: Moloch on February 16, 2016, 08:20:47 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on February 16, 2016, 08:15:53 PM

Westboro Baptist Church - #1 hate church in America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMbfQ117Jts

To be completely fair, WBC is just trolling...

I have it on good authority, that nearly every member of that "church" is a lawyer... they get their money by protesting soldier funerals, calling them fags... then when someone throws a punch, they sue...

I don't think the WBC actually believes what they say... they are simply trolls who are playing a game for money

I almost feel like they are trolling Christians by being extreme literalists (fundamentalists)...

I wondered about it, who would hire them?

They must believe in this BS, how else you can do it with a straight face, you would slip up sooner or later....

They could believe it... who really knows

Nobody needs to hire them... it's almost entrapment... they protest and say offensive things, until someone assaults them... then they sue the person in civil court for loads of $$
http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-how-the-reviled-westboro-baptist-church-makes-money-2015-6

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The marine’s family eventually paid WBC $16,510

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the city of Bellevue paid Phelps-Roper $17,000

Quote

WBC in 1995 won more than $100,000 from a lawsuit against the Kansas’ Funeral Picketing Act because it was a violation of the First Amendment

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Members are required to give 30 percent of their income to the church, which is tax deductible for the donor since WBC is technically a religious organization

(it's also technically a hate group)

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Phelps, (who was disbarred by the Kansas Supreme Court in 1979 for his lack of ethics) and several members are lawyers

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