Tell me (again) that ETH is not manipulated by the whales - page 2.

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Quote from: shanem on December 29, 2016, 09:41:19 AM

All altcoins are being manipulated. If there is no manipulation, price will not rise or drop this quickly.

I see. And can you name just one other digital currency who had $1M buy wall?

It appears many of you fail to grasp my point here. Ethereum was (and still is) heavily supported with buy walls, which doesn't allow it to fell much in price. Maybe it is a supporting strategy, which goal is to keep the price relatively stable, until ETH start working without flaws. This doesn't make it right though.

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All altcoins are being manipulated. If there is no manipulation, price will not rise or drop this quickly. You can also say any trading market are manipulated but it should not stop you from trading the market.

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Quote from: jmpFCE2 on December 29, 2016, 09:19:44 AM

Which coin is not manipulated , you douchebag newb?

Who are you talking to? Me?

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& Talk about manipulation ; Poloniex takes the crown?!

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Which coin is not manipulated , you douchebag newb?

Do you think BTC is going much further then 1K 2016?!

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since I am ignored in troolbox and i di dnto monitor ETH much last few days.

What happened with that huge ETH sell wall that was placed fro few days. Was it bought or moved or, ...?

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Quote from: vlom on December 29, 2016, 06:45:32 AM

and at the moment 0.0065. more than 1000btc. this is almost 1 million $ sitting on polo just for ETH.

who tell hell is committing that amount of money to poloniex.

thats why i am asking myself: are these BTC real or just placed from poloniex itself?

poloniex itself has a hand in this, and i always suspected them for most of the manipulations and specially manipulating ETC to prevent it from going up.

anyways i was sure ETH is a manipulated coin from the beginning and i became 100% sure when it was hacked and price could even go down properly!

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Quote from: spartak_t on December 21, 2016, 02:17:00 PM

2013 and 2014 are long gone. Usually (as VIA dev Romano implied: https://twitter.com/RNR_0/status/811619132730970112) some alts were going up along with Bitcoin, but now situation is a bit different. Some alts suffered from the recent Bitcoin uptrend (which most likely is over: https://twitter.com/bulgar1an/status/811609603595079680) and some ETH whale/s decided to provide buy support for Ethereum. This can't be pulled out by the average Joe and looks like this buy wall was 945 BTC (https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/811572744018137088), which is $779,625 at current BTC price (~$825). That is why I will never ever like Ethereum or ZCash for that matter. These guys are Bitcoin's ecosystem 1% richest.

We need to work more in order to regain the trust in altcoins and I believe that the market should be free of these speculators (i.e. to be with genuine interest).

I have try several times to analysis bitcoin/ethereum but it seen that its has defile technical analysis underlined trending laws. It's seen ethereum has been over stretched to the point were only fundamental issues can pull it upwards.

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and at the moment 0.0065. more than 1000btc. this is almost 1 million $ sitting on polo just for ETH.

who tell hell is committing that amount of money to poloniex.

thats why i am asking myself: are these BTC real or just placed from poloniex itself?

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Yeah duh of course walls get pulled..
That does not negate the intention or the conclusion.
Nor does that justify buying "Cheap ETH coins"

It is in fact proof of manipulation.

And guess what fucktards ?
I have been telling you they were doing this with walls since day one.
What you think this is new ?

What is new is the guy Spartak caught them doing it screen capped it then posted a picture.

ETH = Whale Manipulator PONZI ICO SCAM GIMMICK THINGYMABOBBER APP'S DEALY WHATCHYAMACALLIT

..for profits

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Quote from: mining1 on December 28, 2016, 06:17:58 PM

It was on poloniex for a few days, 2.5k btc sell wall or around that amount, didn't follow it 24/7 to tell it more acurate and didn't screen it either because i don't care. Now it was removed.
It's simple, if you want to sell, you sell smaller pieces to avoid price dropping / tanking. Showing off your cards like that means you don't really want to sell, otherwise you'd do it slowly and quietly without causing a price drop, and get more profit. Simple. ETH price now is low mostly because in the short term, up to 1 month, there won't be big news untill they anounce metropolis, and the BTC pump. The price will easily double with metropolis, but on the other hand currently there's FOMO in btc world.

Gud analysis. Gud times to buy more ETH.

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And i was right. The wall was removed. Also a big portion of the wall was eaten. And as i was right, the point was to suppress the price, because nobovy really wants to buy into a sell wall, because if for any reason the wall is real, the price cannot increase but decrease. And in a day the price increased by 1$.

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Can't believe i am agreeing with mining1 Shocked

(about the small amounts)
Which just shows manipulation..
Someone is not going to do that to show off..
They are doing it for a reason.
Walls are put up to control the price.

For example a dev of a coin was blatant about it and kept saying he was doing it on Cryptsy chat a couple yrs ago.
So no you can't sit there and bullshit about it.
The dev's admit it.

The dev's have in fact admitted to precisely what Spartak was pointing out.
Dev's said they did it for that exact same reason too.

You guys have no room to argue.
And if i have to i will name the dev and have him come and tell you himself LOL

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It was on poloniex for a few days, 2.5k btc sell wall or around that amount, didn't follow it 24/7 to tell it more acurate and didn't screen it either because i don't care. Now it was removed.
It's simple, if you want to sell, you sell smaller pieces to avoid price dropping / tanking. Showing off your cards like that means you don't really want to sell, otherwise you'd do it slowly and quietly without causing a price drop, and get more profit. Simple. ETH price now is low mostly because in the short term, up to 1 month, there won't be big news untill they anounce metropolis, and the BTC pump. The price will easily double with metropolis, but on the other hand currently there's FOMO in btc world.

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Quote from: maku on December 28, 2016, 12:03:06 PM

Quote from: mining1 on December 28, 2016, 10:57:34 AM

Lol, funny. And now that there's a clear sign that eth price is suppressed by whales, not allowing it to organically grow so that they can accumulate more ETH while it is still cheap, you dont have anything to say about that ? There was a 3k eth sell wall on poloniex, clearly intended to either shake weak hands or to suppress the price so they can acumulate more. No way anyone that wants to dump, dumps all at once.

Where is the proof of this price suppression? I might not see the whole picture, but why whales would want to keep the price low - when they are ALREADY owning shitload of ETH?
Higher price will mainly benefit whales after all! I feel like this is more like a conspiracy theory trying to explain why ETH price is stuck.

They aren't really keeping the price low. It just require a lot of time for the market to absorb an high quantity when they want to sell. You can't yolo dump with one click if you expect to sell an high quantity.

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Quote from: mining1 on December 28, 2016, 10:57:34 AM

Lol, funny. And now that there's a clear sign that eth price is suppressed by whales, not allowing it to organically grow so that they can accumulate more ETH while it is still cheap, you dont have anything to say about that ? There was a 3k eth sell wall on poloniex, clearly intended to either shake weak hands or to suppress the price so they can acumulate more. No way anyone that wants to dump, dumps all at once.

Where is the proof of this price suppression? I might not see the whole picture, but why whales would want to keep the price low - when they are ALREADY owning shitload of ETH?
Higher price will mainly benefit whales after all! I feel like this is more like a conspiracy theory trying to explain why ETH price is stuck.

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Quote from: smoothie on December 22, 2016, 11:28:06 AM

In order to say such a thing perhaps you should clearly define what a whale is.

Otherwise someone with 1 btc, 10 btc, or 100 btc could be a whale.

It's all in your perspective.

Markets gonna market, speculators gonna speculate, manipulators gonna manipulate.

OR ...

"Perhaps" smart ass you should quit playing dumb about buy-walls and educate the noobs here on the dangers of them as a responsible and mature crypto user with integrity ?

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Quote from: mining1 on December 28, 2016, 10:57:34 AM

Lol, funny. And now that there's a clear sign that eth price is suppressed by whales, not allowing it to organically grow so that they can accumulate more ETH while it is still cheap, you dont have anything to say about that ? There was a 3k eth sell wall on poloniex, clearly intended to either shake weak hands or to suppress the price so they can acumulate more. No way anyone that wants to dump, dumps all at once.

You have been saying this from eth @ $19. This fairy dust coin will die because, simply put, no one needs it...

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Lol, funny. And now that there's a clear sign that eth price is suppressed by whales, not allowing it to organically grow so that they can accumulate more ETH while it is still cheap, you dont have anything to say about that ? There was a 3k eth sell wall on poloniex, clearly intended to either shake weak hands or to suppress the price so they can acumulate more. No way anyone that wants to dump, dumps all at once.

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i'm trying to understand this.

So it's a whale that puts up a massive buy order of ETH.
And the price he's buying at is .00945 btc?

This was yesterday and i saw ETH raise, so is this someone trying to get the price of ETH up by basically putting a huge buy order and paying higher than the market price?

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