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Quote from: Jating on January 29, 2022, 12:18:08 PM

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Quote from: Cnut237 on January 28, 2022, 08:47:01 AM

Well, we have the Nadal vs Medvedev final that always seemed inevitable.

I think Medvedev won't be too tired, though, or not as tired as I expected. I thought the match with Tsitsipas would be quite tight, and for most of the match it was... but I also thought it might be quite draining, long games, possibly a 5-setter. As it turned out though, although it was tight, much of the match seemed to be the players holding serve to love... so not as tiring as might have been expected.

I was going to have Nadal as favourite for the final, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe he might still edge it, even though Medvedev didn't have an exhausting semi-final.

For me, Nadal is a big surprise of this tournament.
Of course, we all know how good and quality a tennis player he is, but he was injured for a long time and had a long break when he couldn't play in tournaments.
Personally, I thought he is not completely ready and healthy before the start of this tournament, but Nadal really delighted me with his games until the finals.
The experience is definitely on his side and I am sure he will cope easier with the pressure of playing the GS final than Medvedev.
It will probably be a very uncertain match but I give a little advantage to Nadal.

Yeah, when we thought that he is done because of the numerous injuries he had and even his rankings has drop this year. And then at the start of the year entering the first slam and then going directly into the finals? that's already a big accomplishment and a good boost for him. But then again, he will be facing Medvedev who is now the second seed and seems to be on his prime, really hard to see what will be the outcome of this match. But experience wise, obviously, Nadal has the edge here.

It seems to me that exactly what I predicted in my earlier post is happening.
Medvedev started the match well and won the first 2 sets, but now Nadal is on the way to completely turn the match in his favor.
Nadal has already played a lot of such important matches, has a lot more experience than Medvedev and copes better with the great pressure of this final.
If the match goes to the fifth set then Nadal is the favorite in my opinion.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on January 29, 2022, 05:05:21 AM

Quote from: Cnut237 on January 28, 2022, 08:47:01 AM

Well, we have the Nadal vs Medvedev final that always seemed inevitable.

I think Medvedev won't be too tired, though, or not as tired as I expected. I thought the match with Tsitsipas would be quite tight, and for most of the match it was... but I also thought it might be quite draining, long games, possibly a 5-setter. As it turned out though, although it was tight, much of the match seemed to be the players holding serve to love... so not as tiring as might have been expected.

I was going to have Nadal as favourite for the final, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe he might still edge it, even though Medvedev didn't have an exhausting semi-final.

For me, Nadal is a big surprise of this tournament.
Of course, we all know how good and quality a tennis player he is, but he was injured for a long time and had a long break when he couldn't play in tournaments.
Personally, I thought he is not completely ready and healthy before the start of this tournament, but Nadal really delighted me with his games until the finals.
The experience is definitely on his side and I am sure he will cope easier with the pressure of playing the GS final than Medvedev.
It will probably be a very uncertain match but I give a little advantage to Nadal.

Yeah, when we thought that he is done because of the numerous injuries he had and even his rankings has drop this year. And then at the start of the year entering the first slam and then going directly into the finals? that's already a big accomplishment and a good boost for him. But then again, he will be facing Medvedev who is now the second seed and seems to be on his prime, really hard to see what will be the outcome of this match. But experience wise, obviously, Nadal has the edge here.

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Rafael Nadal is one step away from his record 21st Grand Slam title and him and Daniil Medvedev have met four times, with Nadal winning three but Medvedev winning the last one in 2020 in London. Wink

So Nadal will probably chase that record and with Medvedev having had some serious battles with Nick Kyrgios and Cressy... he might be tired. (Medvedev will still be chasing a victory to get the world's No. 1 ranking from Djokovic)

I will be putting my money on Nadal winning this one... but it is going to be a tough one. Wink

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Quote from: Cnut237 on January 28, 2022, 08:47:01 AM

Well, we have the Nadal vs Medvedev final that always seemed inevitable.

I think Medvedev won't be too tired, though, or not as tired as I expected. I thought the match with Tsitsipas would be quite tight, and for most of the match it was... but I also thought it might be quite draining, long games, possibly a 5-setter. As it turned out though, although it was tight, much of the match seemed to be the players holding serve to love... so not as tiring as might have been expected.

I was going to have Nadal as favourite for the final, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe he might still edge it, even though Medvedev didn't have an exhausting semi-final.

For me, Nadal is a big surprise of this tournament.
Of course, we all know how good and quality a tennis player he is, but he was injured for a long time and had a long break when he couldn't play in tournaments.
Personally, I thought he is not completely ready and healthy before the start of this tournament, but Nadal really delighted me with his games until the finals.
The experience is definitely on his side and I am sure he will cope easier with the pressure of playing the GS final than Medvedev.
It will probably be a very uncertain match but I give a little advantage to Nadal.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on January 28, 2022, 08:47:01 AM

Well, we have the Nadal vs Medvedev final that always seemed inevitable.

I think Medvedev won't be too tired, though, or not as tired as I expected. I thought the match with Tsitsipas would be quite tight, and for most of the match it was... but I also thought it might be quite draining, long games, possibly a 5-setter. As it turned out though, although it was tight, much of the match seemed to be the players holding serve to love... so not as tiring as might have been expected.

I was going to have Nadal as favourite for the final, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe he might still edge it, even though Medvedev didn't have an exhausting semi-final.

I had the opportunity to see live, although in repetition it would not matter, but tennis matches have for my tastes something special to see them live, the Nadal vs Mannarino match, friend the Tie Break of the first set that to locals and strangers or not fans he enjoys it, seriously, it didn't matter who won at that moment... that is he showed that he can still win not conclusively against a rival like Medvedev, but Nadal is strong psychologically, so with what I saw in that Tie-break, that claw, that passion, gives him to win the tournament.

I think this players are not going to be tired, I agree as they have used to this kind of grueling schedule as some of them have back to back games but win. All they have to do is re-hydrate eat sleep a little and they are good to go.

Medvedev is the favorite as far as betting odds goes so I will go with him. Odds though are not that attractive but still maybe it's Medvedev's time to capture the another grand slam now.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on January 28, 2022, 08:47:01 AM

Well, we have the Nadal vs Medvedev final that always seemed inevitable.

I think Medvedev won't be too tired, though, or not as tired as I expected. I thought the match with Tsitsipas would be quite tight, and for most of the match it was... but I also thought it might be quite draining, long games, possibly a 5-setter. As it turned out though, although it was tight, much of the match seemed to be the players holding serve to love... so not as tiring as might have been expected.

I was going to have Nadal as favourite for the final, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe he might still edge it, even though Medvedev didn't have an exhausting semi-final.

I had the opportunity to see live, although in repetition it would not matter, but tennis matches have for my tastes something special to see them live, the Nadal vs Mannarino match, friend the Tie Break of the first set that to locals and strangers or not fans he enjoys it, seriously, it didn't matter who won at that moment... that is he showed that he can still win not conclusively against a rival like Medvedev, but Nadal is strong psychologically, so with what I saw in that Tie-break, that claw, that passion, gives him to win the tournament.

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I think Medvedev will win this final. In the last meeting when he met Nadal at the US Open final in 2019 he came back from 2 sets down to make it 2-2 then lost the fifth 6-4 which enabled Nadal to win. He faced a hostile crowd that was shouting for him to lose and was applauding Nadal but in the end the crowd were cheering for Medvedev because he was a fighter and did not give up.

In the case of this final, he is a much better player than he was in 2019 and I have no doubt at all Medvedev will beat Nadal.

Medvedev lost his grand slam final in 2019 (US Open) to Nadal in 5 sets. He lost his second grand slam final in 2021 (Australian Open) to Djokovic in straight sets but won his third grand slam in 2021 (US Open) against Djokovic which was in straight sets.

He already stopped Djokovic from winning a 21st grand slam and I am sure he will stop Nadal from winning his 21st grand slam too. If it happens it would mean Federer, Nadal and Djokovic staying equal for now in the number of grand slams they have won (20 each). It was also means Medvedev would have won 2 grand slams for himself and would boos this confidence even though he is right now the number 2 ranked singles player.

Quote from: Cnut237 on January 28, 2022, 08:47:01 AM

Well, we have the Nadal vs Medvedev final that always seemed inevitable.

I think Medvedev won't be too tired, though, or not as tired as I expected. I thought the match with Tsitsipas would be quite tight, and for most of the match it was... but I also thought it might be quite draining, long games, possibly a 5-setter. As it turned out though, although it was tight, much of the match seemed to be the players holding serve to love... so not as tiring as might have been expected.

I was going to have Nadal as favourite for the final, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe he might still edge it, even though Medvedev didn't have an exhausting semi-final.

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Well, we have the Nadal vs Medvedev final that always seemed inevitable.

I think Medvedev won't be too tired, though, or not as tired as I expected. I thought the match with Tsitsipas would be quite tight, and for most of the match it was... but I also thought it might be quite draining, long games, possibly a 5-setter. As it turned out though, although it was tight, much of the match seemed to be the players holding serve to love... so not as tiring as might have been expected.

I was going to have Nadal as favourite for the final, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe he might still edge it, even though Medvedev didn't have an exhausting semi-final.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 27, 2022, 08:53:55 AM

Nadal vs Medvedev in the finals for this year.

Yes, I've been saying that for a while... but it's quite boring because it's just what you'd expect, no surprises.
I do think if it works out this way then Nadal would have to be the favourite. Medvedev had a very draining match last time out, and now faces Tsitsipas in what could well end up being another 5 setter. Whoever gets through that will be tired for the final.

It also goes to say that Nadal might have an easy route to the finals. He faces Shapovalov who defeated Rublev. He was extended to 5 sets though, but he has the advantage because he is well rested.
As compare to Medvedev who had a draining 5 set win, both mentally and physical tough match for him to overcome. And now he is going to face another tough opponent in Tsitsipas who surprisingly did good in a surface that he is not well known to do better. He is a clay court specialist as far as I know.

Well, as for Tsitsipas, I would like to add that Nadal also seems to be more considered a specialist on a clay court Wink

Although of course I'm also a little surprised that Tsitsipas was able to get to such a high stage of the tournament, especially considering that he had surgery only a few weeks ago. As for Medvedev's previous five-set match, I would like to say that this should not have a strong impact, given that it was a rest day and tennis players of this level should know how to recover properly after such matches. I would not be in a hurry to talk about Nadal's easy way to the final, let's remember, for example, that no one really expected that Medvedev's previous opponent would cause him so many problems and put him on the verge of losing.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on January 27, 2022, 10:37:05 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 27, 2022, 08:53:55 AM

Nadal vs Medvedev in the finals for this year.

Yes, I've been saying that for a while... but it's quite boring because it's just what you'd expect, no surprises.

I do think if it works out this way then Nadal would have to be the favourite. Medvedev had a very draining match last time out, and now faces Tsitsipas in what could well end up being another 5 setter. Whoever gets through that will be tired for the final.

It also goes to say that Nadal might have an easy route to the finals. He faces Shapovalov who defeated Rublev. He was extended to 5 sets though, but he has the advantage because he is well rested.

As compare to Medvedev who had a draining 5 set win, both mentally and physical tough match for him to overcome. And now he is going to face another tough opponent in Tsitsipas who surprisingly did good in a surface that he is not well known to do better. He is a clay court specialist as far as I know.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 27, 2022, 08:53:55 AM

Nadal vs Medvedev in the finals for this year.

Yes, I've been saying that for a while... but it's quite boring because it's just what you'd expect, no surprises.

I do think if it works out this way then Nadal would have to be the favourite. Medvedev had a very draining match last time out, and now faces Tsitsipas in what could well end up being another 5 setter. Whoever gets through that will be tired for the final.

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I agree, I think this is more likely a Nadal vs Medvedev in the finals for this year.

No offense to both Berrettini and Tsitsipas they deserved to be in the finals. However, facing Nadal and the second seed Medvedev and defeating them is most likely a long shot as both are really playing very well although Nadal was extended to 5 sets last match and Medvedev needed to come back from a 0-2 deficit against Felix AA. But both of them won their respectively match and will be the favorite against Berrettini and Tsitsipas.

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Quote from: JollyGood on January 26, 2022, 09:32:33 PM

Here is the latest news: Medvedev comes back from 0-2 down to win 3-2 against Auger-Aliassime to reach the semi-final against Tsitsipas.

Women Semi-Finals
Barty vs Keys
Collins vs Swiatek

Men Semi-Finals
Berrettini vs Nadal
Tsitsipas vs Medvedev

@JollyGood most likely I believe we should see Nadal vs Medvedev in the finals, because these two have been playing really well. However if Tsitsipas also makes it to the finals against Nadal then too it’ll be interesting, because he’ll be up against an very experienced player and it’ll make the finals very entertaining to watch.

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I think Ashleigh Barty's easy win and no tough fight against Lucia Bronzetti of Italy would be good preparation against Madison Keys in the semifinals.

Ashleigh Barty is the best player and number one in the world and also the representative of the hosts who are definitely favorites in the semifinals against Keys later, and besides that Keys is also not on the list of featured players, I think Ashleigh Barty will win and will advance to the final.

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Here is the latest news: Medvedev comes back from 0-2 down to win 3-2 against Auger-Aliassime to reach the semi-final against Tsitsipas.

Women Semi-Finals
Barty vs Keys
Collins vs Swiatek

Men Semi-Finals
Berrettini vs Nadal
Tsitsipas vs Medvedev

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Here is the latest news:

Keys beats Krejcikova in straight sets
Nadal beats Shapovalov in 5 sets
Barty beats Pegula in straight sets
Berrettini beats Monfils in 5 sets

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Here is the latest news:

Collins won against Mertens
Sinner beat de Minaur
Halep was beaten by Cornet. She advances to her first ever grand slam tournament at the age of 32 and on her 63rd attempt.
Tsitsipas beat Fritz in 5 sets 4-6 6-4 4-6 6-3 6-4
Kanepi the world number 115 beat tournament number 2 seed Sabalenka 5-7 6-2 7-6 (10-7)
Medvedev beat Cressy
Swiatek beat Cirstea
Auger Aliassime beat Cillic

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Federer will always be in with a huge chance of winning at Wimbledon and Nadal will always have a huge chance of winning at Roland Garros but the younger generation are hungry and they see their opportunity to overtake the old guard. Medvedev and Thiem are leading the way followed by Tsitsipas and Zverev.

Djokovic is 34 years old, he will not be able to maintain his winning streak for much longer. Sure he will win tournaments along the way before he retired but I think that is it for him with regards to Grand Slams, he probably will not win any more.

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Nadal is playing well in the tournament so far but I think the Federer, Nadal and Djokovic will find it very difficult to win any more tournaments because the younger players are finally believing they will win grand slams and other tournaments.

About Nadal and Federer probably.
I think they are too old for winning more slams. Maybe Rafa has some chances in some pitches but I don't think Roger can win anymore.

But Djokovic if not banned Cheesy

, will win for many years, I can't see anyone at his level yet.

Maybe Sinner can reach him in 2 years when he will probably decrease in performances.

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