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Ortiz is going to lose big fights promotion because Arum was so disappointed in this fight


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“It was really terrible,” Arum told BoxingScene.com. “I mean, we didn’t know this would happen. We’ve had [Ortiz] fight some big fights for us and he was always very competitive, a good warrior. This wasn’t a fight. He was running around the ring. That isn’t boxing. I don’t know how the officials scored it as close as they did. At most, I gave [Ortiz] two rounds, maybe three rounds. But people are paying good money to watch good athletic competition, and this was disgraceful.”

Bob Arum: Jamaine Ortiz Was Running Around The Ring; That Isn’t Boxing; This Was Disgraceful

As a boxing promoter who has seen thousands of fights he doesn't want to see a boring fight with a fighter who refuses to engage, he is right in saying that the boxing community paid money to see actions, not a boxer who runs around the ring, the boxing community has been shortchanged by this fight.
Honestly, it was a boring fight I preferred to play mine game I was more excited to play that game than watch Ortiz run all night.
I don't know if I will watch Jermaine Ortiz again it's not worth my time and I'm sure many of us will not.
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I like Ryan for him, he is still the champion so Ryan will have to challenge him. he deserve a big fight and with Ryan, it will be a sure blockbuster fight, so hopefully it will happen this year, probably in the 2nd half of the year.

That's to ensure that the fight will not be boring. Ryan has a height advantage on Lopez IMO but they are a good match. This fight, based on the bookmakers, Lopez was the heavy favorite, but maybe if Ryan and him will face each other, it will be a close match making only Lopez a slight favorite.

I can't wait to see it, I hope people will ask for it and the two will agree so they can finalize it as soon as possible.
 

Both Lopez and Ryan Garcia are full of pride and have too much ego it's going to be tough doing a deal on both of them they will be issues on the share of the pot PPV sales and who will top bill the match, but it's a good fight to make for promoters, it will be like Davis - Garcia where there's a lot of dramas and controversy involve.
Ryan needs to have a title all the best fighters have earned their titles like Hanry, Davis, Romero, and Lopez, he is the only popular fighter without a title, the title Instagram king is not very attractive for a fighter of Garcia's caliber.
It's up to Teofimo to decide who he wants to fight but a unification or fighting a top-level fighter is good for his career and legacy.

Look like Ryan Garcia has an upcoming fight, a big fight.

There's a thread that you can find here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/devin-haney-and-ryan-garcia-april-20-wbc-junior-welterweight-title-5484623... It's the thread of Ryan Garcia vs Devin Haney. That's going to be an exciting fight to watch as Ryan now have slowly learn the technique on how to be a defensive fight, he use that style on his last fight where he scored a KO.
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Jamaine Ortiz just could not hurt Lopez, well, we can't blame him though, his KO rate is very low, that's why.

If you look at the match he's not trying to knock out Lopez, he's just to connect and run, the match is so boring that Lopez complaints after one of the rounds that Ortiz did not want to fight, and the unanimous decision in favor of Lopez is a good decision, but the panel scorecard have it a draw surprisingly.
If you want to win the title you have to go for it, as a challenger you must challenge the champion and go toe-to-toe something that Ortiz failed to do, he's not goign to be a great champion if he only runs and does not engage, there's a lot of boing on that fight because of Ortiz.
Ortiz will have a hard time selling his next fight

He did not take the risk of getting himself open as he probably felt that he cannot withstand the power of Lopez. He was just hitting Lopez for points purpose, but not enough to prevent the champion from being aggressive. A fighter would only change his style if he is inferior in the fight, and we've seen that on Ortiz in that fight, so that fight was like a mismatch, a waste of hard earned money  for those who availed the PPV and pay for the tickets.
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Jamaine Ortiz just could not hurt Lopez, well, we can't blame him though, his KO rate is very low, that's why.

If you look at the match he's not trying to knock out Lopez, he's just to connect and run, the match is so boring that Lopez complaints after one of the rounds that Ortiz did not want to fight, and the unanimous decision in favor of Lopez is a good decision, but the panel scorecard have it a draw surprisingly.
If you want to win the title you have to go for it, as a challenger you must challenge the champion and go toe-to-toe something that Ortiz failed to do, he's not goign to be a great champion if he only runs and does not engage, there's a lot of boing on that fight because of Ortiz.
Ortiz will have a hard time selling his next fight
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I like Ryan for him, he is still the champion so Ryan will have to challenge him. he deserve a big fight and with Ryan, it will be a sure blockbuster fight, so hopefully it will happen this year, probably in the 2nd half of the year.

That's to ensure that the fight will not be boring. Ryan has a height advantage on Lopez IMO but they are a good match. This fight, based on the bookmakers, Lopez was the heavy favorite, but maybe if Ryan and him will face each other, it will be a close match making only Lopez a slight favorite.

I can't wait to see it, I hope people will ask for it and the two will agree so they can finalize it as soon as possible.
 

Both Lopez and Ryan Garcia are full of pride and have too much ego it's going to be tough doing a deal on both of them they will be issues on the share of the pot PPV sales and who will top bill the match, but it's a good fight to make for promoters, it will be like Davis - Garcia where there's a lot of dramas and controversy involve.
Ryan needs to have a title all the best fighters have earned their titles like Hanry, Davis, Romero, and Lopez, he is the only popular fighter without a title, the title Instagram king is not very attractive for a fighter of Garcia's caliber.
It's up to Teofimo to decide who he wants to fight but a unification or fighting a top-level fighter is good for his career and legacy.
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Lopez needs to fight a good fighter in his next fight, not someone who just employs a hit-and-run tactic and Ryan could give him that, or SubrieL Matias who is a pressure fighter, that's the fight worth watching.

I like Ryan for him, he is still the champion so Ryan will have to challenge him. he deserve a big fight and with Ryan, it will be a sure blockbuster fight, so hopefully it will happen this year, probably in the 2nd half of the year.

That's to ensure that the fight will not be boring. Ryan has a height advantage on Lopez IMO but they are a good match. This fight, based on the bookmakers, Lopez was the heavy favorite, but maybe if Ryan and him will face each other, it will be a close match making only Lopez a slight favorite.

I can't want to see it, I hope peope will ask for it and the two will agree so they can finalize it as soon as possible.
This is a rumor, that means people wants to see the fight to happen. Enough for Lopez fighting a non caliber boxer, he should go for a good caliber boxer like Ryan Garcia and has an appeal to the public, as that's the recipe for a successful fight. Entertain the crowd and they'll make good money, I think Lopez wouldn't let this opportunity pass if it will come on his door.

Jamaine Ortiz just could not hurt Lopez, well, we can't blame him though, his KO rate is very low, that's why.
How could he hurt a boxer if doesn't throw solid punches? I get this strategy, he just want to hit and run (score), but he isn't as quick as the well known hit and run boxer like Mayweather and Haney, so his strategy was not effective and the decision was fair.
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Lopez needs to fight a good fighter in his next fight, not someone who just employs a hit-and-run tactic and Ryan could give him that, or SubrieL Matias who is a pressure fighter, that's the fight worth watching.

I like Ryan for him, he is still the champion so Ryan will have to challenge him. he deserve a big fight and with Ryan, it will be a sure blockbuster fight, so hopefully it will happen this year, probably in the 2nd half of the year.

That's to ensure that the fight will not be boring. Ryan has a height advantage on Lopez IMO but they are a good match. This fight, based on the bookmakers, Lopez was the heavy favorite, but maybe if Ryan and him will face each other, it will be a close match making only Lopez a slight favorite.

I can't wait to see it, I hope people will ask for it and the two will agree so they can finalize it as soon as possible.

Jamaine Ortiz just could not hurt Lopez, well, we can't blame him though, his KO rate is very low, that's why.
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I don't know but it seems that Teo is very emotional boxer and he just shows his emotion after that fight. Perhaps it was his mentality going to the fight or he thinks he was lucky enough to get the judges decision and he should knock Ortiz out and not go to the judges scorecard.

Ortiz went as high as 7:1 underdog here so very hard to see him winning and pull that upset.

So Lopez retain his belt and obviously should look for money fight next, Ryan Garcia could be a good fight for both of them as both are stars and so there will be big PPV numbers I reckon.
Lopez deserves the win if you're a challenger you should be the one to chase the champion and try to take away the title from the champion, unfortunately, Ortiz employed a safe path hoping that his hit-and-run tactic would work, but the judges favored Lopez who dare Ortiz to engage but all through the fight he just want to play cat and mouse, anyway if he will engage Lopez he knows he's going to get knocked out by Lopez.
Lopez needs to fight a good fighter in his next fight, not someone who just employs a hit-and-run tactic and Ryan could give him that, or SubrieL Matias who is a pressure fighter, that's the fight worth watching.

LOL, Listen about Teo Lopez on Subriel Matias,

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/utYGTKY5g4M

I think this could be a good storyboard for this fight, Lopez calling Matias, one dimensional fighter, softest fighter in the division.

So tell Arum to negotiate and fight him and annexed his IBF this year Teo. And yeah, style makes fight so this is going to be a good fight indeed. But it seems that Teo is full of confidence here.
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I don't know but it seems that Teo is very emotional boxer and he just shows his emotion after that fight. Perhaps it was his mentality going to the fight or he thinks he was lucky enough to get the judges decision and he should knock Ortiz out and not go to the judges scorecard.

Ortiz went as high as 7:1 underdog here so very hard to see him winning and pull that upset.

So Lopez retain his belt and obviously should look for money fight next, Ryan Garcia could be a good fight for both of them as both are stars and so there will be big PPV numbers I reckon.
Lopez deserves the win if you're a challenger you should be the one to chase the champion and try to take away the title from the champion, unfortunately, Ortiz employed a safe path hoping that his hit-and-run tactic would work, but the judges favored Lopez who dare Ortiz to engage but all through the fight he just want to play cat and mouse, anyway if he will engage Lopez he knows he's going to get knocked out by Lopez.
Very frustrating on the part of the champion and he wants to give the fans a very entertaining fight. Unfortunately, the challenger didn't come to fight but just to survive, and I like how the judges saw the fight, they gave it to the defending champion because Ortiz  is not deserving to become a champion, it will be added to another boring champion in the history of boxing, so no.

Lopez needs to fight a good fighter in his next fight, not someone who just employs a hit-and-run tactic and Ryan could give him that, or SubrieL Matias who is a pressure fighter, that's the fight worth watching.

I like Ryan for him, he is still the champion so Ryan will have to challenge him. he deserve a big fight and with Ryan, it will be a sure blockbuster fight, so hopefully it will happen this year, probably in the 2nd half of the year.
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I don't know but it seems that Teo is very emotional boxer and he just shows his emotion after that fight. Perhaps it was his mentality going to the fight or he thinks he was lucky enough to get the judges decision and he should knock Ortiz out and not go to the judges scorecard.

Ortiz went as high as 7:1 underdog here so very hard to see him winning and pull that upset.

So Lopez retain his belt and obviously should look for money fight next, Ryan Garcia could be a good fight for both of them as both are stars and so there will be big PPV numbers I reckon.
Lopez deserves the win if you're a challenger you should be the one to chase the champion and try to take away the title from the champion, unfortunately, Ortiz employed a safe path hoping that his hit-and-run tactic would work, but the judges favored Lopez who dare Ortiz to engage but all through the fight he just want to play cat and mouse, anyway if he will engage Lopez he knows he's going to get knocked out by Lopez.
Lopez needs to fight a good fighter in his next fight, not someone who just employs a hit-and-run tactic and Ryan could give him that, or SubrieL Matias who is a pressure fighter, that's the fight worth watching.
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Thanks bro, great timing. the 2nd round has just finished and thus far they are still adjusting. This Jamaine Ortiz is quite slick, he moved a lot and doesn't go toe to toe battle with Lopez, so there's a huge chance that we might not see a KO here, rather the fight will end via decision.

Edit : people seemed not enjoying the action as Ortiz  became like Mayweather, he is so defensive here.

I hope Lopez won't get too frustrated... Grin

You're welcome bro.

Lopez did win the fight with not much engagement as Ortiz was disciplined enough to stick to their game plan. Though i agree with the judges to give the fight to Lopez but he should have done more on cutting the gap between them, you just could not stand there and expect your opponent to come and hit you, this is boxing, hit and don't get hit lol.

117-111, 115-113 (2X), were the scores of the judges for Lopez.

He was really frustrated but good thing he won the fight. I don't know why he was emotional after he was announce as the winner, I think he wasn't sure that he will win the fight because he was always saying that Ortiz  didn't come to fight. It was a boring fight, we didn't see a real entertainment and it seems like Ortiz understands he will be KO if he choose to go toe to toe with the champion. Hopefully next time Lopez would be able to find an opponent that would really accept his challenge so they will not be boo'd by the fans.

I don't know but it seems that Teo is very emotional boxer and he just shows his emotion after that fight. Perhaps it was his mentality going to the fight or he thinks he was lucky enough to get the judges decision and he should knock Ortiz out and not go to the judges scorecard.

Ortiz went as high as 7:1 underdog here so very hard to see him winning and pull that upset.

So Lopez retain his belt and obviously should look for money fight next, Ryan Garcia could be a good fight for both of them as both are stars and so there will be big PPV numbers I reckon.
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Thanks bro, great timing. the 2nd round has just finished and thus far they are still adjusting. This Jamaine Ortiz is quite slick, he moved a lot and doesn't go toe to toe battle with Lopez, so there's a huge chance that we might not see a KO here, rather the fight will end via decision.

Edit : people seemed not enjoying the action as Ortiz  became like Mayweather, he is so defensive here.

I hope Lopez won't get too frustrated... Grin

You're welcome bro.

Lopez did win the fight with not much engagement as Ortiz was disciplined enough to stick to their game plan. Though i agree with the judges to give the fight to Lopez but he should have done more on cutting the gap between them, you just could not stand there and expect your opponent to come and hit you, this is boxing, hit and don't get hit lol.

117-111, 115-113 (2X), were the scores of the judges for Lopez.

He was really frustrated but good thing he won the fight. I don't know why he was emotional after he was announce as the winner, I think he wasn't sure that he will win the fight because he was always saying that Ortiz  didn't come to fight. It was a boring fight, we didn't see a real entertainment and it seems like Ortiz understands he will be KO if he choose to go toe to toe with the champion. Hopefully next time Lopez would be able to find an opponent that would really accept his challenge so they will not be boo'd by the fans.
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I'm just going to throw peanuts for Ortiz by UD because I have some gut feeling this is gonna be an upset and then I'm more confident in Ortiz.

Because Teo had not KO Loma, he may not be able to KO Ortiz as well, Jamaine Ortiz is not named The Technician for nothing. He also survived against Loma without getting knocked out. It's all just my hunch, I didn't get rich with my gut feeling but I certainly won some of my bets because of it.

Why not mate? he is a huge underdog and odd makers didn't respecdt that Ortiz survived against Loma and even give Loma a good fight. Ortiz also has a underrated footwork that might gave Teo problems early.

And if he was not able to solved that, they maybe it's going to be a very close fight for Teo and he has to rally late like what Loma did against Ortiz. But we all know that Lopez is not known to be a technical boxer, he just loves to brawl and this could be a wrong style for him against Ortiz.

Unfortunately, there's no brawl here, Ortiz was just in survival mode the way I see it throughout the fight. He will just swing and then try to fight outside by Lopez was wise enough to counter him all night with right hand.

So as per the judges, it went to distance but it's no close fight and the winner is still the champion in Teo Lopez.

If Teo thinks Matias is easy then go for him and get his belt.
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I will be more interested on Keyshawn Davis, he could be the next big star for boxing here. And yeah maybe in the future he will call out Teo at 140 lbs. Keyshawn though has a lot in his plate at Lightweight, all roads lead to Tank Davis or Shakur Stevenson.

That will be the biggest fight at 135 lbs, but let's see if he is just hype or really the next big thing for us.

So it's better to see if he can live to the noise behind his name, at least we will know what the future will be at Lightweight with Keyshawn.

As I have said, the fight that I wanted to see is Keyshawn Davis and he didn't disappoint his fans as he completely dominated Pedraza and the referee had to stop the fight and Pedraza is no match for Keyshawn. He just tee off right from round 1, with that huge body shots after body shots and Pedraza was soften right after round 3.

So who will be the next for Davis, maybe he needs a couple of fights before he can go and look for Shakur or Tank Davis.

Prospect is there for him, but for me, needed more to test himself before chasing for the belts.
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Thanks bro, great timing. the 2nd round has just finished and thus far they are still adjusting. This Jamaine Ortiz is quite slick, he moved a lot and doesn't go toe to toe battle with Lopez, so there's a huge chance that we might not see a KO here, rather the fight will end via decision.

Edit : people seemed not enjoying the action as Ortiz  became like Mayweather, he is so defensive here.

I hope Lopez won't get too frustrated... Grin

You're welcome bro.

Lopez did win the fight with not much engagement as Ortiz was disciplined enough to stick to their game plan. Though i agree with the judges to give the fight to Lopez but he should have done more on cutting the gap between them, you just could not stand there and expect your opponent to come and hit you, this is boxing, hit and don't get hit lol.

117-111, 115-113 (2X), were the scores of the judges for Lopez.
Yes, no fanfare in this fight, Ortiz becoming a south paw but it was not that effective against Teo. Lopez is the quicker of the two and I will say that it has power behind those peek-a-boo style of him. And it might have that Ortiz felt the power that's why he just try to run circles and then throw couple of punch and then hug that's why the fans didn't like what they see in the fight. But it is still a win for Lopez here, I haven't seen the post fight interview, but maybe a reunification fight with other champion. He also say that Matias is the easiest fight for him for all those champions, so we will see.

@FinneysTrueVision - Do you agree that Matias is the weakest of the champion in that division?

That is according to Teo, actually he said all Puerto Rican fighters are easy fights.
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Teofimo was very lackluster but managed to edge out a decision. Jamaine Ortiz had a new Cuban trainer and his style tonight reminded me of Rigondeaux and Erislandy Lara because of how boring that performance was. Running around might have frustrated Teo but what was lacking for Ortiz was some offense. Teo also didn't do much but he finished the fight a little stronger and I had him winning those final two rounds, which made the difference on the scorecards.

If Teofimo struggled this much against Ortiz, it's going to be much worse against someone like Devin Haney. Teo called out Crawford but that is a fight he would lose badly. He should instead focus on somebody like Subriel Matias, whose aggressive style is a much better matchup. Even though there's a lot of risk, it will be a fan friendly fight that can elevate Teo's stock after some inconsistent and sometimes disappointing performances.
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I like Teofimo's reaction to their faceoff he is more relaxed and calculated gone are the days where he resorted to cheap thrash talk like he did with Kambosos he learned a lot from that fight.
I agree that this should be an easy assignment for Teofimo before heading for big fights maybe after this fight he will go for a unification title, and fight either Haney or Matias, Teofimo is ambitious the three champions in that weight divisions are all undefeated so its better that after this fight Lopez negotiate for a title unification

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Both of them are boxers who can be said to have had good careers but their records cannot really be undefeated fighters, both of them had quite sensational fights but I failed to get the win.
Lopez had to accept quite disappointing defeat against George Kambosos and this defeat made him lose his dream of winning the title, as did Ortiz, who was defeated by Vasiliy Lomachenko.
But in the fight for the WBO title at the Michelob Ultra Arena, it was Lopez biggest achievement because he managed to defend his WBO welterweight title for the first time, he looked so happy with a glowing face and teary eyes.
Lopez looks like he can't believe the victory he achieved and of course this is big victory for Lopez.

This is the second big win for Lopez because he previously won the title by defeating former undisputed king Josh Taylor.
Congratulations to Teofimo Lopez who managed to win and retain his WBO title.
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Thanks bro, great timing. the 2nd round has just finished and thus far they are still adjusting. This Jamaine Ortiz is quite slick, he moved a lot and doesn't go toe to toe battle with Lopez, so there's a huge chance that we might not see a KO here, rather the fight will end via decision.

Edit : people seemed not enjoying the action as Ortiz  became like Mayweather, he is so defensive here.

I hope Lopez won't get too frustrated... Grin

You're welcome bro.

Lopez did win the fight with not much engagement as Ortiz was disciplined enough to stick to their game plan. Though i agree with the judges to give the fight to Lopez but he should have done more on cutting the gap between them, you just could not stand there and expect your opponent to come and hit you, this is boxing, hit and don't get hit lol.

117-111, 115-113 (2X), were the scores of the judges for Lopez.
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Thanks bro, great timing. the 2nd round has just finished and thus far they are still adjusting. This Jamaine Ortiz is quite slick, he moved a lot and doesn't go toe to toe battle with Lopez, so there's a huge chance that we might not see a KO here, rather the fight will end via decision.

Edit : people seemed not enjoying the action as Ortiz  became like Mayweather, he is so defensive here.

I hope Lopez won't get too frustrated... Grin
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edit: end of round six and not much action for both boxers as Ortiz is very mobile while Lopez fails to cut the gap between them and the crowd seems to be sleepy at the moment hehe.
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I'm just going to throw peanuts for Ortiz by UD because I have some gut feeling this is gonna be an upset and then I'm more confident in Ortiz.

Because Teo had not KO Loma, he may not be able to KO Ortiz as well, Jamaine Ortiz is not named The Technician for nothing. He also survived against Loma without getting knocked out. It's all just my hunch, I didn't get rich with my gut feeling but I certainly won some of my bets because of it.

Why not mate? he is a huge underdog and odd makers didn't respecdt that Ortiz survived against Loma and even give Loma a good fight. Ortiz also has a underrated footwork that might gave Teo problems early.

And if he was not able to solved that, they maybe it's going to be a very close fight for Teo and he has to rally late like what Loma did against Ortiz. But we all know that Lopez is not known to be a technical boxer, he just loves to brawl and this could be a wrong style for him against Ortiz.
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I'm just going to throw peanuts for Ortiz by UD because I have some gut feeling this is gonna be an upset and then I'm more confident in Ortiz.

Because Teo had not KO Loma, he may not be able to KO Ortiz as well, Jamaine Ortiz is not named The Technician for nothing. He also survived against Loma without getting knocked out. It's all just my hunch, I didn't get rich with my gut feeling but I certainly won some of my bets because of it.
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Can't wait to watch this fight. Teo will again showcase his special talent, and might easily dispose Ortiz  in this battle.
 

I like Teofimo's reaction to their faceoff he is more relaxed and calculated gone are the days where he resorted to cheap thrash talk like he did with Kambosos he learned a lot from that fight.
I agree that this should be an easy assignment for Teofimo before heading for big fights maybe after this fight he will go for a unification title, and fight either Haney or Matias, Teofimo is ambitious the three champions in that weight divisions are all undefeated so its better that after this fight Lopez negotiate for a title unification

By the way the round by round updates for this fight is already listed here in case you cannot watch a live feed but if there are live feeds from social media I will drop it here

https://www.mmafighting.com/2024/2/8/24065569/teofimo-lopez-vs-jamaine-ortiz-live-round-by-round-updates
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Here's the press con yesterday.  It felt like Teo was not in his right mind anymore  I couldn't find a proper emoji to insert to describe him  Roll Eyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWn58IwLtQs

All the time, he was pretending to be reading that Bruce Lee book that he tried to apply to himself. It felt like this was a loss anymore. I'm having doubts Teo will win this fight. It's like listening to someone with deep thoughts I think he said he already has climbed the top and come back down again so he understands it all. He lives in his small book.

Correct, not sure what's going in the mind of Teo and the way he talks, looks like he is high and talk something about his idol Bruce Lee and then previous Puerto Rican great boxers and then Jesus? WTF? And then have some words on Keyshawn Davis beside him.

So not sure what to get out of this press conference in my opinion, no animosity to bring fight to this fight or something that fans can be excited for his defense of his belt.
It was different though in the weigh-in, Teo trying to punk Ortiz, but it's not working. But it good to hear that they have the same weight, or at least no one goes about the 140 lbs and make this fight difficult for both sides.

The video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZu2OG8Kopw

Just a good laugh as someone telling Teo to read his book,  Grin

Can't wait to watch this fight. Teo will again showcase his special talent, and might easily dispose Ortiz  in this battle.

Don't miss the betting odds of the fight.
Teo x1.18 vs Oritz x 5.80 ( big underdog)

I think I'm going to be on Teo to win via KO, currently it's @2.90... It's unlikely but I like to see Ortiz being aggressive so he'll not last 12 rounds. I still respect the power of Teo with 13 Ko from 19 fights.
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I will be more interested on Keyshawn Davis, he could be the next big star for boxing here. And yeah maybe in the future he will call out Teo at 140 lbs. Keyshawn though has a lot in his plate at Lightweight, all roads lead to Tank Davis or Shakur Stevenson.

That will be the biggest fight at 135 lbs, but let's see if he is just hype or really the next big thing for us.

So it's better to see if he can live to the noise behind his name, at least we will know what the future will be at Lightweight with Keyshawn.
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Here's the press con yesterday.  It felt like Teo was not in his right mind anymore  I couldn't find a proper emoji to insert to describe him  Roll Eyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWn58IwLtQs

All the time, he was pretending to be reading that Bruce Lee book that he tried to apply to himself. It felt like this was a loss anymore. I'm having doubts Teo will win this fight. It's like listening to someone with deep thoughts I think he said he already has climbed the top and come back down again so he understands it all. He lives in his small book.

Correct, not sure what's going in the mind of Teo and the way he talks, looks like he is high and talk something about his idol Bruce Lee and then previous Puerto Rican great boxers and then Jesus? WTF? And then have some words on Keyshawn Davis beside him.

So not sure what to get out of this press conference in my opinion, no animosity to bring fight to this fight or something that fans can be excited for his defense of his belt.
It was different though in the weigh-in, Teo trying to punk Ortiz, but it's not working. But it good to hear that they have the same weight, or at least no one goes about the 140 lbs and make this fight difficult for both sides.

The video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZu2OG8Kopw

Just a good laugh as someone telling Teo to read his book,  Grin
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Here's the press con yesterday.  It felt like Teo was not in his right mind anymore  I couldn't find a proper emoji to insert to describe him  Roll Eyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWn58IwLtQs

All the time, he was pretending to be reading that Bruce Lee book that he tried to apply to himself. It felt like this was a loss anymore. I'm having doubts Teo will win this fight. It's like listening to someone with deep thoughts I think he said he already has climbed the top and come back down again so he understands it all. He lives in his small book.

Correct, not sure what's going in the mind of Teo and the way he talks, looks like he is high and talk something about his idol Bruce Lee and then previous Puerto Rican great boxers and then Jesus? WTF? And then have some words on Keyshawn Davis beside him.

So not sure what to get out of this press conference in my opinion, no animosity to bring fight to this fight or something that fans can be excited for his defense of his belt.
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Here's the press con yesterday.  It felt like Teo was not in his right mind anymore  I couldn't find a proper emoji to insert to describe him  Roll Eyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWn58IwLtQs

All the time, he was pretending to be reading that Bruce Lee book that he tried to apply to himself. It felt like this was a loss anymore. I'm having doubts Teo will win this fight. It's like listening to someone with deep thoughts I think he said he already has climbed the top and come back down again so he understands it all. He lives in his small book.
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I also going to bet on Lopez when he is not triggered and relaxed he is a very good tactician in the ring, and he seems fine in the interview not unlike the Kambosos fight where he is triggered by thrashtalks.

He is more focus now.. I think he already learned his lessoned when he experience his first loss, but currently he is on a winning streak on a very convincing wins. It wasn't a surprise that 10 of the voters in the poll have voted for Lopez to win either by KO or UD, total votes goes to him.

Nothing is special with Ortiz , he is not even a KO artist, so how can he beat Lopez who has the power in both hands, can withstand heavy punches, and a very smart boxer in the ring. As we can see in the OP, Ortiz only have 8 KO's from 17 wins which is only 47% KO rate, not a real threat.
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Nothing spectacular on that press conference though, both has so much respect with each other. If Teo will stay relax and not get clip early, he will definitely win this fight. Ortiz is much taller but I don't think it has a advantage in this fight. It's more on the boxing IQ, and as per Teo, he has mature now and so he has the experience against Ortiz.


They already met in the ring nine years ago in their amateur days, Lopez won the match but he earned respect of Lopez so they know each other but not that well since they amateur fought and we all know that there are great amateur boxers that did not translate their success in the professional, while there are boxers who are a poor performer in the amateur but ended to be great champions we can site boxers like Tyson, Wilder and many great names to mention

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During their amateur days, Lopez and Ortiz locked horned horns.

They met as teenagers in the final of the Golden Gloves at junior lightweight in May 2015. At the end of three rounds, Lopez was the victor but Ortiz got his licks in.
https://www.ringtv.com/664214-jamaine-ortiz-expects-the-best-version-of-teofimo-lopez-in-their-ring-championship

I also going to bet on Lopez when he is not triggered and relaxed he is a very good tactician in the ring, and he seems fine in the interview not unlike the Kambosos fight where he is triggered by thrashtalks.
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This just pop in my feed, the official video promo for this fight,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYmklORcW2M

Nothing spectacular, and the theme of the video is all about legacy. Not sure if the press conference has started it. The official Top Rank Youtube is already there but still like running for 20 minutes and nothing is to be heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JAlIU3uxRA

Nothing spectacular on that press conference though, both has so much respect with each other. If Teo will stay relax and not get clip early, he will definitely win this fight. Ortiz is much taller but I don't think it has a advantage in this fight. It's more on the boxing IQ, and as per Teo, he has mature now and so he has the experience against Ortiz.

It's also interesting to see the co main event or the undercard here, KeyShawn Davis vs Pedraza.

I don't know, I think Pedraza should have retired already, he has taken so much damage that I wouldn't be surprised here if Davis scored a spectacular knockout.
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This just pop in my feed, the official video promo for this fight,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYmklORcW2M

Nothing spectacular, and the theme of the video is all about legacy. Not sure if the press conference has started it. The official Top Rank Youtube is already there but still like running for 20 minutes and nothing is to be heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JAlIU3uxRA
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^^ Good odds for a knockout as that's what I'm looking for Teo Lopez to win here maybe in the late rounds as well. Lopez is full of confidence although others might agree that some of his statement lately are very controversial even with his current promotional company, which is Top Rank as he criticized them about his fights and the purse money.

Anyhow, he is under contract and I think this might look like a tough fight for him, but I think he will dominate Ortiz here and again, maybe that odds for a knockout win is very much what I will look for as it is very appealing to me and maybe to others as well.
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How time flies, and with that, this fight is going to be this week already?

And I thought it's going to be on weekend, anyhow looking at the odds, Ortiz is a 5:1 underdog. Although he has good performance against Loma and won against Moran in his last fight, the odd makers still picks up Teo Lopez as the favorite.

Lopez by KO is good though @2.75.
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Yeah, but that's still considered a dominant win because he won on the 3 judges scorecard, although both scored 115-113, that's close but we haven't heard any complaints from the side of Teo that they have been cheated or the score is not fair.

You might not call it schooling, but if you read this article from below:

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Despite Lopez's clear dominance, the scorecards were a bit of a scare for the new champion, reading 115-113, 115-113, 117-111.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/josh-taylor-vs-teofimo-lopez-jr-fight-results-highlights-the-takeover-scores-big-upset-to-earn-wbo-title/live/

The score was close but if we were able to watch the fight, we can say that Teofimo was really the one dictating the fight, so we can also call that schooling since it's expected that Josh Taylor would have a good fight, IIRC, he was even the favorite (probably slight only) but Teofimo steal that moment in the fight as right from the start, it's already evident that Teofimo was very comfortable and winning every round.

I think even Josh Taylor himself knows he lose the fight, so that alone is already a proof that it he was dominated.

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Josh Taylor believes he simply had a “bad night” when he lost to Teofimo Lopez earlier this summer.
https://www.boxingscene.com/josh-taylor-on-rebounding-from-lopez-loss-i-plenty-option-just-bad-night--177694

Yes, that's what I'm trying to say, most of the time the judges scorecard doesn't really reflect what the "real score" inside the ring. Even in the Bivol vs Canelo fight, it's very close in the judges scorecard, but we know that Bivol took Canelo to school and dominated that fight. And yet the judges seems to make the score close to even a conspiracy that they might want Canelo to win on that fight.
If the fight was a close one, and although the real winner is Bivol, judges could manipulate the scorecards in favor of Canelo because he is a big name in boxing, and with his win, it will create stories that will make the boxing industry better. This conspiracy theory ain't new, because it happened from time to time although it's not prove, but we can notice if we have an investigator minds.


Anyhow, fight is still very far and maybe fighters are not yet into serious training right now as they want to just enjoy the holiday with their families.

Or just maybe hitting the gym but not putting serious work, just loosening and maybe next year is where the hard work starts.

The real training starts next year, although we can't say that everyone are not so serious this holiday season as not everyone are observing or celebrating the holiday season.
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Yeah, but that's still considered a dominant win because he won on the 3 judges scorecard, although both scored 115-113, that's close but we haven't heard any complaints from the side of Teo that they have been cheated or the score is not fair.

You might not call it schooling, but if you read this article from below:

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Despite Lopez's clear dominance, the scorecards were a bit of a scare for the new champion, reading 115-113, 115-113, 117-111.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/josh-taylor-vs-teofimo-lopez-jr-fight-results-highlights-the-takeover-scores-big-upset-to-earn-wbo-title/live/

The score was close but if we were able to watch the fight, we can say that Teofimo was really the one dictating the fight, so we can also call that schooling since it's expected that Josh Taylor would have a good fight, IIRC, he was even the favorite (probably slight only) but Teofimo steal that moment in the fight as right from the start, it's already evident that Teofimo was very comfortable and winning every round.

I think even Josh Taylor himself knows he lose the fight, so that alone is already a proof that it he was dominated.

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Josh Taylor believes he simply had a “bad night” when he lost to Teofimo Lopez earlier this summer.
https://www.boxingscene.com/josh-taylor-on-rebounding-from-lopez-loss-i-plenty-option-just-bad-night--177694

Yes, that's what I'm trying to say, most of the time the judges scorecard doesn't really reflect what the "real score" inside the ring. Even in the Bivol vs Canelo fight, it's very close in the judges scorecard, but we know that Bivol took Canelo to school and dominated that fight. And yet the judges seems to make the score close to even a conspiracy that they might want Canelo to win on that fight.

Anyhow, fight is still very far and maybe fighters are not yet into serious training right now as they want to just enjoy the holiday with their families.

Or just maybe hitting the gym but not putting serious work, just loosening and maybe next year is where the hard work starts.
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But this could be the same if Teo Lopez started to dominate the fight again from round 1 and never give Ortiz some room to counter.
This is the kind of scenario I'm expecting to see in this fight. IMO, Teo is just too much for Jamaine Ortiz although some may disgaree, but Jamaine Ortiz  isn't a champion caliber fighter, so how can we expect him to give a tough fight to Teo.

And who knows, maybe Lopez can KO Ortiz here.

Well, probably one of the biggest upset that will happen this year, but honestly, I'm not seeing it happening, so the chance is very slim.

Maybe Teo will loss, the worst case scenario, but to get KO'd, it's too unlikely.
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^^ Yes it depends on what we see, but it's obvious that Teo has dictated the fight all throughout the game, and so this could be schooling by some standards. And as you pointed out, and I remember that, Josh admitted that, maybe it was the weight as he has difficult making 140 lbs or just really a bad stylistic matchup for him.

And now Lopez is the lineal champion, and will have to face maybe a tougher opponent that we expect in Ortiz.

But this could be the same if Teo Lopez started to dominate the fight again from round 1 and never give Ortiz some room to counter. And who knows, maybe Lopez can KO Ortiz here.
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Yeah, but that's still considered a dominant win because he won on the 3 judges scorecard, although both scored 115-113, that's close but we haven't heard any complaints from the side of Teo that they have been cheated or the score is not fair.

You might not call it schooling, but if you read this article from below:

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Despite Lopez's clear dominance, the scorecards were a bit of a scare for the new champion, reading 115-113, 115-113, 117-111.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/josh-taylor-vs-teofimo-lopez-jr-fight-results-highlights-the-takeover-scores-big-upset-to-earn-wbo-title/live/

The score was close but if we were able to watch the fight, we can say that Teofimo was really the one dictating the fight, so we can also call that schooling since it's expected that Josh Taylor would have a good fight, IIRC, he was even the favorite (probably slight only) but Teofimo steal that moment in the fight as right from the start, it's already evident that Teofimo was very comfortable and winning every round.

I think even Josh Taylor himself knows he lose the fight, so that alone is already a proof that it he was dominated.

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Josh Taylor believes he simply had a “bad night” when he lost to Teofimo Lopez earlier this summer.
https://www.boxingscene.com/josh-taylor-on-rebounding-from-lopez-loss-i-plenty-option-just-bad-night--177694
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I thought Lopez has already announced his retirement from professional boxing? These boxers announcing retirement cannot stick to their word probably because of money and the desire to fight.

Ortiz is probably an easy opponent for Teofimo. Teofimo is still quick, so in terms of points he may outscore Ortiz. In terms of powerful punch that will bring the fight to an end anytime within rounds, Teofimo has also more power than Ortiz, so I think Lopez is still at an advantage. But I voted Lopez by UD.

I didn't think that you will believed his retirement announcement though? I mean he is still very young to retire and you can see from his personality that he make controversial statements and probably his retirement announcement is just one antics on his fight. I guess he already proves that he has power in this division and now he beat the unify champion in Josh Taylor. So this is his first time to defend his belt, so I think he will be the favorite and has all the advantage and possible that he can KO Lopez here although I think Ortiz could be bigger fight night if there is no rehydration clause.

Yes, Teofimo's mouth sometimes releases words and statements that haven't gone through his brain. But his decision to cancel that retirement is probably just right. He is still young and can still do a lot of things in the ring, not to mention continue making money. It's still easy for him to look for opponents.

What do you mean he can KO Lopez? You mean Lopez can KO Ortiz? That's possible because Teofimo has strong punches. But I'm not expecting so much from Lopez anymore. That UD win over Taylor is not an indication of power. That was a close fight and Taylor wasn't even knocked down.

Yeah, but if you look at the score, it was UD win for Lopez, so meaning he almost win every round and you can say that he schooled the former unified champion at 140 lbs. And the handed the first defend of Taylor so that shows how good Lopez is, despite his showboating at times and then releasing controversial statement in the media.

And what's important is that he won, he might not knock down Taylor, but it's a hard fought fight and in the end he emerges as victories.

So in this fight, we might see Lopez style, maybe going into another 12 full round fight is Ortiz is tougher, or if he can take his punch then maybe he will push and want to score a knockout win.

A unanimous decision win doesn't mean the winner is winning almost every round or schooling the opponent. Teofimo indeed won via a unanimous decision against Taylor, but did you take a look at the official score cards? One judge gave 117-111 for Lopez. That's a score which means Lopez dominated the fight. But the other two judges gave the same score, 115-113 for Teofimo. That means Lopez won 7 of the 12 rounds and Taylor won 5. 7 versus 5 doesn't mean the winner is schooling his opponent. Schooling is like Haney recently winning over Prograis. He won via UD with all three judges giving 120-107. That's schooling.

Yeah, but that's still considered a dominant win because he won on the 3 judges scorecard, although both scored 115-113, that's close but we haven't heard any complaints from the side of Teo that they have been cheated or the score is not fair.

You might not call it schooling, but if you read this article from below:

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Despite Lopez's clear dominance, the scorecards were a bit of a scare for the new champion, reading 115-113, 115-113, 117-111.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/josh-taylor-vs-teofimo-lopez-jr-fight-results-highlights-the-takeover-scores-big-upset-to-earn-wbo-title/live/
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I thought Lopez has already announced his retirement from professional boxing? These boxers announcing retirement cannot stick to their word probably because of money and the desire to fight.

Ortiz is probably an easy opponent for Teofimo. Teofimo is still quick, so in terms of points he may outscore Ortiz. In terms of powerful punch that will bring the fight to an end anytime within rounds, Teofimo has also more power than Ortiz, so I think Lopez is still at an advantage. But I voted Lopez by UD.

I didn't think that you will believed his retirement announcement though? I mean he is still very young to retire and you can see from his personality that he make controversial statements and probably his retirement announcement is just one antics on his fight. I guess he already proves that he has power in this division and now he beat the unify champion in Josh Taylor. So this is his first time to defend his belt, so I think he will be the favorite and has all the advantage and possible that he can KO Lopez here although I think Ortiz could be bigger fight night if there is no rehydration clause.

Yes, Teofimo's mouth sometimes releases words and statements that haven't gone through his brain. But his decision to cancel that retirement is probably just right. He is still young and can still do a lot of things in the ring, not to mention continue making money. It's still easy for him to look for opponents.

What do you mean he can KO Lopez? You mean Lopez can KO Ortiz? That's possible because Teofimo has strong punches. But I'm not expecting so much from Lopez anymore. That UD win over Taylor is not an indication of power. That was a close fight and Taylor wasn't even knocked down.

Yeah, but if you look at the score, it was UD win for Lopez, so meaning he almost win every round and you can say that he schooled the former unified champion at 140 lbs. And the handed the first defend of Taylor so that shows how good Lopez is, despite his showboating at times and then releasing controversial statement in the media.

And what's important is that he won, he might not knock down Taylor, but it's a hard fought fight and in the end he emerges as victories.

So in this fight, we might see Lopez style, maybe going into another 12 full round fight is Ortiz is tougher, or if he can take his punch then maybe he will push and want to score a knockout win.

A unanimous decision win doesn't mean the winner is winning almost every round or schooling the opponent. Teofimo indeed won via a unanimous decision against Taylor, but did you take a look at the official score cards? One judge gave 117-111 for Lopez. That's a score which means Lopez dominated the fight. But the other two judges gave the same score, 115-113 for Teofimo. That means Lopez won 7 of the 12 rounds and Taylor won 5. 7 versus 5 doesn't mean the winner is schooling his opponent. Schooling is like Haney recently winning over Prograis. He won via UD with all three judges giving 120-107. That's schooling.
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I thought Lopez has already announced his retirement from professional boxing? These boxers announcing retirement cannot stick to their word probably because of money and the desire to fight.

Ortiz is probably an easy opponent for Teofimo. Teofimo is still quick, so in terms of points he may outscore Ortiz. In terms of powerful punch that will bring the fight to an end anytime within rounds, Teofimo has also more power than Ortiz, so I think Lopez is still at an advantage. But I voted Lopez by UD.

I didn't think that you will believed his retirement announcement though? I mean he is still very young to retire and you can see from his personality that he make controversial statements and probably his retirement announcement is just one antics on his fight. I guess he already proves that he has power in this division and now he beat the unify champion in Josh Taylor. So this is his first time to defend his belt, so I think he will be the favorite and has all the advantage and possible that he can KO Lopez here although I think Ortiz could be bigger fight night if there is no rehydration clause.

Yes, Teofimo's mouth sometimes releases words and statements that haven't gone through his brain. But his decision to cancel that retirement is probably just right. He is still young and can still do a lot of things in the ring, not to mention continue making money. It's still easy for him to look for opponents.

What do you mean he can KO Lopez? You mean Lopez can KO Ortiz? That's possible because Teofimo has strong punches. But I'm not expecting so much from Lopez anymore. That UD win over Taylor is not an indication of power. That was a close fight and Taylor wasn't even knocked down.

Yeah, but if you look at the score, it was UD win for Lopez, so meaning he almost win every round and you can say that he schooled the former unified champion at 140 lbs. And the handed the first defend of Taylor so that shows how good Lopez is, despite his showboating at times and then releasing controversial statement in the media.

And what's important is that he won, he might not knock down Taylor, but it's a hard fought fight and in the end he emerges as victories.

So in this fight, we might see Lopez style, maybe going into another 12 full round fight is Ortiz is tougher, or if he can take his punch then maybe he will push and want to score a knockout win.
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I thought Lopez has already announced his retirement from professional boxing? These boxers announcing retirement cannot stick to their word probably because of money and the desire to fight.

Ortiz is probably an easy opponent for Teofimo. Teofimo is still quick, so in terms of points he may outscore Ortiz. In terms of powerful punch that will bring the fight to an end anytime within rounds, Teofimo has also more power than Ortiz, so I think Lopez is still at an advantage. But I voted Lopez by UD.

I didn't think that you will believed his retirement announcement though? I mean he is still very young to retire and you can see from his personality that he make controversial statements and probably his retirement announcement is just one antics on his fight. I guess he already proves that he has power in this division and now he beat the unify champion in Josh Taylor. So this is his first time to defend his belt, so I think he will be the favorite and has all the advantage and possible that he can KO Lopez here although I think Ortiz could be bigger fight night if there is no rehydration clause.

Yes, Teofimo's mouth sometimes releases words and statements that haven't gone through his brain. But his decision to cancel that retirement is probably just right. He is still young and can still do a lot of things in the ring, not to mention continue making money. It's still easy for him to look for opponents.

What do you mean he can KO Lopez? You mean Lopez can KO Ortiz? That's possible because Teofimo has strong punches. But I'm not expecting so much from Lopez anymore. That UD win over Taylor is not an indication of power. That was a close fight and Taylor wasn't even knocked down.
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I thought Lopez has already announced his retirement from professional boxing? These boxers announcing retirement cannot stick to their word probably because of money and the desire to fight.

Ortiz is probably an easy opponent for Teofimo. Teofimo is still quick, so in terms of points he may outscore Ortiz. In terms of powerful punch that will bring the fight to an end anytime within rounds, Teofimo has also more power than Ortiz, so I think Lopez is still at an advantage. But I voted Lopez by UD.

I didn't think that you will believed his retirement announcement though? I mean he is still very young to retire and you can see from his personality that he make controversial statements and probably his retirement announcement is just one antics on his fight. I guess he already proves that he has power in this division and now he beat the unify champion in Josh Taylor. So this is his first time to defend his belt, so I think he will be the favorite and has all the advantage and possible that he can KO Lopez here although I think Ortiz could be bigger fight night if there is no rehydration clause.

Just crazy to hear that Teo is retiring,

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A complete shocker it was not. More like the pre-ordained ending of a not-so-elaborate publicity stunt, at best.

Yep, that’s what it was.

In an announcement that surprised very few people, Teofimo Lopez declared his retirement null and void and called out archrival Devin Haney in yet another profanity-laced social media tirade, just hours before a generous deadline given by the WBO for Lopez to confirm his retirement was due to expire.

https://www.ringtv.com/655887-teofimo-lopez-un-retires-just-in-time-to-keep-his-belt-and-risk-it-against-devin-haney/

Although the article says that he wants Haney, not going to happen obviously as he Ortiz in mind at least early next year. And maybe him and Haney can talk about that fight. Both of them have belts so inevitably they will have to face to unify the belt as this is not the story, Crawford done it and now Naoya Inoue is looking to do the same against Tapales.

Teo is just 26 yo, he was just saying he wants to retire but at that age, it's a prime age.

It might not be a prime age yet for a boxer, or even in any other sports. But I do agree that he is not going to retire that early, it's unusual for a young boxer to retire, he just want to attract attention, that's it.

Ortiz hasn't fought at 140 yet, he is good but this is risky for him and Teo will probably be able to play around with him. Teo capitalized on his win over Loma while Ortiz was defeated despite Loma's age. For Teo, this isn't a real big fight but it will still be interesting to watch.  It'd be a surprise to see Teo lose.

But it's a opportunity for him that's why it's a easy decision to fight Lopez for his belt. Just like when he had that opportunity against Loma before. Top Rank gives it to him and obviously he is not taking the big share as far as the split, but still a good opportunity and he was lucky that he is under Bob Arum. So first fight moving up in weight and then relatively unknown, fights for the belt? And I do agree, Teo is going to be too much for him.
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I thought Lopez has already announced his retirement from professional boxing? These boxers announcing retirement cannot stick to their word probably because of money and the desire to fight.

Ortiz is probably an easy opponent for Teofimo. Teofimo is still quick, so in terms of points he may outscore Ortiz. In terms of powerful punch that will bring the fight to an end anytime within rounds, Teofimo has also more power than Ortiz, so I think Lopez is still at an advantage. But I voted Lopez by UD.

I didn't think that you will believed his retirement announcement though? I mean he is still very young to retire and you can see from his personality that he make controversial statements and probably his retirement announcement is just one antics on his fight. I guess he already proves that he has power in this division and now he beat the unify champion in Josh Taylor. So this is his first time to defend his belt, so I think he will be the favorite and has all the advantage and possible that he can KO Lopez here although I think Ortiz could be bigger fight night if there is no rehydration clause.

Just crazy to hear that Teo is retiring,

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A complete shocker it was not. More like the pre-ordained ending of a not-so-elaborate publicity stunt, at best.

Yep, that’s what it was.

In an announcement that surprised very few people, Teofimo Lopez declared his retirement null and void and called out archrival Devin Haney in yet another profanity-laced social media tirade, just hours before a generous deadline given by the WBO for Lopez to confirm his retirement was due to expire.

https://www.ringtv.com/655887-teofimo-lopez-un-retires-just-in-time-to-keep-his-belt-and-risk-it-against-devin-haney/

Although the article says that he wants Haney, not going to happen obviously as he Ortiz in mind at least early next year. And maybe him and Haney can talk about that fight. Both of them have belts so inevitably they will have to face to unify the belt as this is not the story, Crawford done it and now Naoya Inoue is looking to do the same against Tapales.

Teo is just 26 yo, he was just saying he wants to retire but at that age, it's a prime age.

Ortiz hasn't fought at 140 yet, he is good but this is risky for him and Teo will probably be able to play around with him. Teo capitalized on his win over Loma while Ortiz was defeated despite Loma's age. For Teo, this isn't a real big fight but it will still be interesting to watch.  It'd be a surprise to see Teo lose.

Teo is the champion so he really need to win this fight to be able to land that big fights against Haney or Ryan Garcia. Retiring is not an option of him, he might have just to used that to bring hype on his name or try to force Top Rank to give him more money.

That is right, we haven't seen his 140 lbs version, all we have seen is his 135 lbs version of him fighting Loma. And in his last fight at 135 lbs, he struggles and that's why he move up to 140 lbs and it was good that he was also a Top Rank boxer that's why he was given this opportunity to fight for the belt eventhough this is his first time at this weight class. So Teo better capitalized on this and defend his belt with a win.
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Ortiz is a good contender but his best fights have been at lightweight. If he couldn't defeat Loma then I don't see how he can beat Teofimo in a higher weight class. We've seen Teo struggle against average fighters but maybe the win against Josh Taylor will give him the confidence he had been lacking in previous fights. This should be a nice showcase during Super Bowl week in Las Vegas. There will be lots of attention on this fight and if he wins Teofimo's next fight could be a PPV against Matias in New York.

He only had one lose against George Kambosos Jr, the boxer that was schooled by Devin Haney two times. Teo had a statement that he was not anymore comfortable on that weight os he moved up and he proved his excuse was true. Beating Josh Taylor who's also a champion, that would say a lot about the skills of Teo, and as long as he is very confident in the division he's holding now, I doubt a challenger who failed against Loma has a chance of upsetting him.

What we are seeing on Teo now is a more matured and smarter boxer. His loss to Kambosos was a wake up call that he cannot be too cocky all the time and underestimate his opponent.

If we watch again the fight, we will see that Teo aren't playing defense and was just trying to look for a one punch KO, but it's unfortunate for him as Kambosos wasn't playing around, he was too focus with his counterpunches that hurt Teo although Teo survived in the fight. That mistake will never happen again.
If I'm not mistaken, Teo was able able to knock down Kambosos in that fight? So he was trying to make a comeback, unfortunately he just fell short, but the scores were very close. So most likely it could go either way in that fight, if only Teo was very careful early and not let Kambosos take control.
I can't remember anymore if Teo scored a knock down, but if he did,  it's still not enough as Kambosos were dominating most of the rounds, and you can see Teo was really bloody on that fight as he was hit many times with clean shots.


But here it might be very different, for Ortiz, first time to move in 140 lbs, so there's no more weight drain. But we haven't seen his power yet or whether he can carry his true power in this weight class. So let's give Ortiz a benefit of a doubt and that it could be a better fight, more thant we expected.

Lopez will be happy to know that or to see him struggle because as for him, being the champion, he is already in a very comfortable weight and he could deliver his best in this fight. So no more high expectation from me for Ortiz, as I believe this is just a cherry picked fight for Lopez.
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I thought Lopez has already announced his retirement from professional boxing? These boxers announcing retirement cannot stick to their word probably because of money and the desire to fight.

Ortiz is probably an easy opponent for Teofimo. Teofimo is still quick, so in terms of points he may outscore Ortiz. In terms of powerful punch that will bring the fight to an end anytime within rounds, Teofimo has also more power than Ortiz, so I think Lopez is still at an advantage. But I voted Lopez by UD.

I didn't think that you will believed his retirement announcement though? I mean he is still very young to retire and you can see from his personality that he make controversial statements and probably his retirement announcement is just one antics on his fight. I guess he already proves that he has power in this division and now he beat the unify champion in Josh Taylor. So this is his first time to defend his belt, so I think he will be the favorite and has all the advantage and possible that he can KO Lopez here although I think Ortiz could be bigger fight night if there is no rehydration clause.

Just crazy to hear that Teo is retiring,

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A complete shocker it was not. More like the pre-ordained ending of a not-so-elaborate publicity stunt, at best.

Yep, that’s what it was.

In an announcement that surprised very few people, Teofimo Lopez declared his retirement null and void and called out archrival Devin Haney in yet another profanity-laced social media tirade, just hours before a generous deadline given by the WBO for Lopez to confirm his retirement was due to expire.

https://www.ringtv.com/655887-teofimo-lopez-un-retires-just-in-time-to-keep-his-belt-and-risk-it-against-devin-haney/

Although the article says that he wants Haney, not going to happen obviously as he Ortiz in mind at least early next year. And maybe him and Haney can talk about that fight. Both of them have belts so inevitably they will have to face to unify the belt as this is not the story, Crawford done it and now Naoya Inoue is looking to do the same against Tapales.

Teo is just 26 yo, he was just saying he wants to retire but at that age, it's a prime age.

Ortiz hasn't fought at 140 yet, he is good but this is risky for him and Teo will probably be able to play around with him. Teo capitalized on his win over Loma while Ortiz was defeated despite Loma's age. For Teo, this isn't a real big fight but it will still be interesting to watch.  It'd be a surprise to see Teo lose.

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I thought Lopez has already announced his retirement from professional boxing? These boxers announcing retirement cannot stick to their word probably because of money and the desire to fight.

Ortiz is probably an easy opponent for Teofimo. Teofimo is still quick, so in terms of points he may outscore Ortiz. In terms of powerful punch that will bring the fight to an end anytime within rounds, Teofimo has also more power than Ortiz, so I think Lopez is still at an advantage. But I voted Lopez by UD.

I didn't think that you will believed his retirement announcement though? I mean he is still very young to retire and you can see from his personality that he make controversial statements and probably his retirement announcement is just one antics on his fight. I guess he already proves that he has power in this division and now he beat the unify champion in Josh Taylor. So this is his first time to defend his belt, so I think he will be the favorite and has all the advantage and possible that he can KO Lopez here although I think Ortiz could be bigger fight night if there is no rehydration clause.

Just crazy to hear that Teo is retiring,

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A complete shocker it was not. More like the pre-ordained ending of a not-so-elaborate publicity stunt, at best.

Yep, that’s what it was.

In an announcement that surprised very few people, Teofimo Lopez declared his retirement null and void and called out archrival Devin Haney in yet another profanity-laced social media tirade, just hours before a generous deadline given by the WBO for Lopez to confirm his retirement was due to expire.

https://www.ringtv.com/655887-teofimo-lopez-un-retires-just-in-time-to-keep-his-belt-and-risk-it-against-devin-haney/

Although the article says that he wants Haney, not going to happen obviously as he Ortiz in mind at least early next year. And maybe him and Haney can talk about that fight. Both of them have belts so inevitably they will have to face to unify the belt as this is not the story, Crawford done it and now Naoya Inoue is looking to do the same against Tapales.
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I thought Lopez has already announced his retirement from professional boxing? These boxers announcing retirement cannot stick to their word probably because of money and the desire to fight.

Ortiz is probably an easy opponent for Teofimo. Teofimo is still quick, so in terms of points he may outscore Ortiz. In terms of powerful punch that will bring the fight to an end anytime within rounds, Teofimo has also more power than Ortiz, so I think Lopez is still at an advantage. But I voted Lopez by UD.

I also don't think that Ortiz is the optimal one for Teófimo but now we start to see Ortiz can give a great surprise and, this boxer has always been at a good level, now that I see that it may be that he has improved a lot with respect to his performance, I imagine that if he is close to fighting with Teo, he wants to do well and not have any type of mistake, at least that's what I would do because if he pushes himself he can give good results and he can go ahead in everything, so seeing what he can achieve is It is likely that things will be very favorable to him, so in this set of ideas I would think that Teo is doing everything to not lose this fight (if it happens) although as I said before I think that Ortiz is a very strong fighter, he can give a surprise to his fans.

Of course, seeing this from a much more daring point of view because when it comes to doing anything to be able to hope for something good, it is simply something that we cannot hope for. In this fight, the truth is I have no idea who can win, I don't see none very outstanding, maybe Teo, but that is something very superficial, what catches my attention about this is that when you need to have a fight of this style it takes a long time for it to happen, Although on the 8th February is a date that is already monetized, right now we are in January, we have to take it as the fierce January because these days are holidays, and the truth is I don't believe that boxers start to be very concentrated in their fights, maybe the most disciplined yes, but I see it as very viable, no one likes to train or work on December 24 or December 31 and perhaps the diet does not Apply for these dates , because meals are Something that can be given and having as a base gaining weight, and just 1 kg that is gained is difficult to lose is to increase the training x2 until it is achieved, although I personally would do it, without a doubt I would not have problems with that, that is what occurs to me .

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Top Rank will be leveraging the week leading up to the Super Bowl to stage a super twin billing showcasing some of the top stars from its stable.

The NFL’s marquee championship matchup will take place at Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas on Sunday, Feb. 11, and Top Rank will be presenting a show on Thursday, Feb. 8 on ESPN, most likely at the nearby Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.

Top Rank boss and Hall of Fame promoter Bob Arum told BoxingScene.com in an interview on Monday that the main event will feature Teofimo Lopez Jr. looking to defend his WBO junior welterweight title against Jamaine Ortiz, and the co-main event will feature lightweight upstart Keyshawn Davis taking on former two-division titlist Jose Pedraza.

“We have a big platform for Teofimo – the week leading up to the Super Bowl is massive,” said Arum. “That will be a way to advance Teofimo into big, massive fights for the rest of 2024. And then there is the step-up, tough fight for our rising star Keyshawn Davis.”

Arum also noted that fast-rising rising phenoms Emiliano Vargas and Abdullah Mason are also slated to be featured on the undercard.

Top Rank pulled off a similar script during Formula 1 week in Las Vegas earlier this year. On Thursday, Nov. 9, Shakur Stevenson headlined a show against Edwin De Los Santos at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas before the popular car race took over The Strip that weekend.

It’s not the fight against Ryan Garcia that Oscar De La Hoya teased, but Lopez will still be promoted on a grand stage.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-lopez-jamaine-ortiz-keyshawn-davis-jose-pedraza-headline-super-bowl-week-show-las-vegas-on-feb-8--180118
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I thought Lopez has already announced his retirement from professional boxing? These boxers announcing retirement cannot stick to their word probably because of money and the desire to fight.

Ortiz is probably an easy opponent for Teofimo. Teofimo is still quick, so in terms of points he may outscore Ortiz. In terms of powerful punch that will bring the fight to an end anytime within rounds, Teofimo has also more power than Ortiz, so I think Lopez is still at an advantage. But I voted Lopez by UD.

I didn't think that you will believed his retirement announcement though? I mean he is still very young to retire and you can see from his personality that he make controversial statements and probably his retirement announcement is just one antics on his fight. I guess he already proves that he has power in this division and now he beat the unify champion in Josh Taylor. So this is his first time to defend his belt, so I think he will be the favorite and has all the advantage and possible that he can KO Lopez here although I think Ortiz could be bigger fight night if there is no rehydration clause.
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I thought Lopez has already announced his retirement from professional boxing? These boxers announcing retirement cannot stick to their word probably because of money and the desire to fight.

Ortiz is probably an easy opponent for Teofimo. Teofimo is still quick, so in terms of points he may outscore Ortiz. In terms of powerful punch that will bring the fight to an end anytime within rounds, Teofimo has also more power than Ortiz, so I think Lopez is still at an advantage. But I voted Lopez by UD.
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Jemaine Ortiz is not a patsy and if Teofimo will take it easy and take him for granted just like what he did to Kambosos and Sandor Martin, he will find himself in big trouble, Ortiz is capable he may be a cherry-picked fighter but it's not an easy fighter to deal with, although Loma beat him by a unanimous decision, he shows that he can keep up with a tough fighter like Loma.
The fight is on Kambosos if he is in tough shape then he can easily beat Ortiz but if he takes it easy Jemaine can give a tough fight, it's going to be interesting in the first 3 rounds of the fight.

If Lopez cherry-picked him then Lopez camp believe that they will win. No one would cherry picked a fighter that they think will give a trouble to the champion, so this isn't too interesting IMO. Maybe if this is mandatory, then we can discuss that Jamaine Ortiz  has a decent chance of beating Lopez.

As per in the Jr. Welterweight ranking in WBO which is Teofimo Lopez is the current champion, Jamaine Ortiz is only ranked at number 11, so that says a lot about this as a cherry picked fight which Teofimo won't have a problem dealing with.
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Jemaine Ortiz is not a patsy and if Teofimo will take it easy and take him for granted just like what he did to Kambosos and Sandor Martin, he will find himself in big trouble, Ortiz is capable he may be a cherry-picked fighter but it's not an easy fighter to deal with, although Loma beat him by a unanimous decision, he shows that he can keep up with a tough fighter like Loma.
The fight is on Kambosos if he is in tough shape then he can easily beat Ortiz but if he takes it easy Jemaine can give a tough fight, it's going to be interesting in the first 3 rounds of the fight.
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Anyhow, back to Teo Lopez, he is now the lineal champion at 140 lbs and so he will likely to be the man here unless Ortiz suddenly become a great fighter at 140 lbs.

I'm expecting Lopez to win and then continue his reign and go after Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney.

Looking at the record of Ortiz (17-1-1), i don't think he poses a threat to Teo Lopez. He is not a knockout puncher so even if he hits Teo with solid shots, i don't think he could rattle Teo. Anyways, this is a good fight as to keep the lineal champion busy next year as a fight with Ryan Garcia or Devin Haney is looming in the horizon.

I guess the performance of Ortiz against Loma has somewhat put his name on the spotlight at 135 lbs. He did give Loma a good fight because he is big and we can show that he has power but not a knockout artist.

And so with him going up another weight class, maybe others think that he can have more power here. I'm seeing this fight like the Ryan Garcia vs Oscar Duarte. In paper Duarte was a good fighter, but when he faces Garcia inside the ring, it was a total different story. So this is like a cherry pick for Teo but they need to create hype of Ortiz as somewhat a threat to him or his belt.
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Anyhow, back to Teo Lopez, he is now the lineal champion at 140 lbs and so he will likely to be the man here unless Ortiz suddenly become a great fighter at 140 lbs.

I'm expecting Lopez to win and then continue his reign and go after Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney.

Looking at the record of Ortiz (17-1-1), i don't think he poses a threat to Teo Lopez. He is not a knockout puncher so even if he hits Teo with solid shots, i don't think he could rattle Teo. Anyways, this is a good fight as to keep the lineal champion busy next year as a fight with Ryan Garcia or Devin Haney is looming in the horizon.
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. It's pretty obvious that Teofimo, being a champion, is a high-caliber kind of boxer, so Jamaine Ortiz is unlikely to win, unless Teofimo goes emotional and losses his focus.

He has a history of that first with Kambosos and second with Sandor Martin, he is hard-headed if an opponent gets in his head he has a hard time focusing on his game or plan, he has a history of wanting to prove that he can knock out his opponent and that eagerness always caught up with his plan, same with his father who's part of making things worse for Teofimo Lopez, so if Teofimo get emotional Jemaine Ortiz can take him down, the guy is capable.
I will not rule out an upset as Ortiz has a good record and is also a good finisher if Lopez makes a grave mistake, Ortiz will take that opportunity.
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Looking at their record and of course their attitude in the ring , this is a Lopez advantageous fight because he has a large numbers of knock outs while Ortiz has only few .

and watching their fights now, I finally convinced that this is a lopez bout to win unanimously .

Before Teofimo gained popularity, everyone was talking about Lomachenko, as he was a top pound-for-pound fighter in the past. So, whoever beats him is already considered a great fighter. Regarding Loma's record, I would only count his two losses as they occurred during his prime. Only two boxers were able to defeat him: Haney and Teofimo. It's pretty obvious that Teofimo, being a champion, is a high-caliber kind of boxer, so Jamaine Ortiz is unlikely to win, unless Teofimo goes emotional and losses his focus.
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Ortiz is a good contender but his best fights have been at lightweight. If he couldn't defeat Loma then I don't see how he can beat Teofimo in a higher weight class. We've seen Teo struggle against average fighters but maybe the win against Josh Taylor will give him the confidence he had been lacking in previous fights. This should be a nice showcase during Super Bowl week in Las Vegas. There will be lots of attention on this fight and if he wins Teofimo's next fight could be a PPV against Matias in New York.

He only had one lose against George Kambosos Jr, the boxer that was schooled by Devin Haney two times. Teo had a statement that he was not anymore comfortable on that weight os he moved up and he proved his excuse was true. Beating Josh Taylor who's also a champion, that would say a lot about the skills of Teo, and as long as he is very confident in the division he's holding now, I doubt a challenger who failed against Loma has a chance of upsetting him.

He has rebounded from the Martin performance to a win against the best 140 lbs in Josh Taylor. Taylor hasn't lose his belt, he did vacant it or force to, although there was signs that he might have lost to Jack Catterall and is the sign that he is declining. Just sad though that after unifying all the belts, suddenly his performance decline, I haven't seen that kind of boxer though, that after fulfilling his dreams it seems that he is very different.

Anyhow, back to Teo Lopez, he is now the lineal champion at 140 lbs and so he will likely to be the man here unless Ortiz suddenly become a great fighter at 140 lbs.

I'm expecting Lopez to win and then continue his reign and go after Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney.
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It's now final, Teofimo Lopez Vs. Jamaine Ortiz will square off for the WBO Welterweight Title on February 8

Looking at their record and of course their attitude in the ring , this is a Lopez advantageous fight because he has a large numbers of knock outs while Ortiz has only few .

and watching their fights now, I finally convinced that this is a lopez bout to win unanimously .
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Ortiz is a good contender but his best fights have been at lightweight. If he couldn't defeat Loma then I don't see how he can beat Teofimo in a higher weight class. We've seen Teo struggle against average fighters but maybe the win against Josh Taylor will give him the confidence he had been lacking in previous fights. This should be a nice showcase during Super Bowl week in Las Vegas. There will be lots of attention on this fight and if he wins Teofimo's next fight could be a PPV against Matias in New York.

He only had one lose against George Kambosos Jr, the boxer that was schooled by Devin Haney two times. Teo had a statement that he was not anymore comfortable on that weight os he moved up and he proved his excuse was true. Beating Josh Taylor who's also a champion, that would say a lot about the skills of Teo, and as long as he is very confident in the division he's holding now, I doubt a challenger who failed against Loma has a chance of upsetting him.

What we are seeing on Teo now is a more matured and smarter boxer. His loss to Kambosos was a wake up call that he cannot be too cocky all the time and underestimate his opponent.

If we watch again the fight, we will see that Teo aren't playing defense and was just trying to look for a one punch KO, but it's unfortunate for him as Kambosos wasn't playing around, he was too focus with his counterpunches that hurt Teo although Teo survived in the fight. That mistake will never happen again.
If I'm not mistaken, Teo was able able to knock down Kambosos in that fight? So he was trying to make a comeback, unfortunately he just fell short, but the scores were very close. So most likely it could go either way in that fight, if only Teo was very careful early and not let Kambosos take control.

But here it might be very different, for Ortiz, first time to move in 140 lbs, so there's no more weight drain. But we haven't seen his power yet or whether he can carry his true power in this weight class. So let's give Ortiz a benefit of a doubt and that it could be a better fight, more thant we expected.
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Ortiz is a good contender but his best fights have been at lightweight. If he couldn't defeat Loma then I don't see how he can beat Teofimo in a higher weight class. We've seen Teo struggle against average fighters but maybe the win against Josh Taylor will give him the confidence he had been lacking in previous fights. This should be a nice showcase during Super Bowl week in Las Vegas. There will be lots of attention on this fight and if he wins Teofimo's next fight could be a PPV against Matias in New York.

He only had one lose against George Kambosos Jr, the boxer that was schooled by Devin Haney two times. Teo had a statement that he was not anymore comfortable on that weight os he moved up and he proved his excuse was true. Beating Josh Taylor who's also a champion, that would say a lot about the skills of Teo, and as long as he is very confident in the division he's holding now, I doubt a challenger who failed against Loma has a chance of upsetting him.

What we are seeing on Teo now is a more matured and smarter boxer. His loss to Kambosos was a wake up call that he cannot be too cocky all the time and underestimate his opponent.

If we watch again the fight, we will see that Teo aren't playing defense and was just trying to look for a one punch KO, but it's unfortunate for him as Kambosos wasn't playing around, he was too focus with his counterpunches that hurt Teo although Teo survived in the fight. That mistake will never happen again.
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Ortiz is a good contender but his best fights have been at lightweight. If he couldn't defeat Loma then I don't see how he can beat Teofimo in a higher weight class. We've seen Teo struggle against average fighters but maybe the win against Josh Taylor will give him the confidence he had been lacking in previous fights. This should be a nice showcase during Super Bowl week in Las Vegas. There will be lots of attention on this fight and if he wins Teofimo's next fight could be a PPV against Matias in New York.

He only had one lose against George Kambosos Jr, the boxer that was schooled by Devin Haney two times. Teo had a statement that he was not anymore comfortable on that weight os he moved up and he proved his excuse was true. Beating Josh Taylor who's also a champion, that would say a lot about the skills of Teo, and as long as he is very confident in the division he's holding now, I doubt a challenger who failed against Loma has a chance of upsetting him.
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Ortiz is a good contender but his best fights have been at lightweight. If he couldn't defeat Loma then I don't see how he can beat Teofimo in a higher weight class. We've seen Teo struggle against average fighters but maybe the win against Josh Taylor will give him the confidence he had been lacking in previous fights. This should be a nice showcase during Super Bowl week in Las Vegas. There will be lots of attention on this fight and if he wins Teofimo's next fight could be a PPV against Matias in New York.
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Lopez may be a favorite in this fight but Ortiz can deliver a huge upset if Lopez comes out easy in this fight like he did against Sandor Martin, Ortiz has matured after his fight against Loma.
Lopez has a history of undermining his opponents he has done this two times already against Kambosos and then against Sandor and Ortiz is a better fighter than Sandor if we are talking about fight comparison with Lomachenko.
Lopez when he fought Loma, Loma had a shoulder injury, while Ortiz when he fought Loma was 100% in perfect condition, so the comparison will not add up.

Let's see, I also consider this as a tough fight for Lopez specially that Ortiz is no longer has to squeeze his body to 135 lbs as he is moving to 140 lbs. The only problem with Ortiz is that he usually faded in the later rounds but maybe it was due to him really having a hard time making 135. So him moving might do more good on him.

So Teo shouldn't underestimate Ortiz here, as this two has history in the amateur Lopez beat Ortiz in the National Golden Gloves Quarterfinal way back 2015.

Maybe this is payback for Ortiz, or Teo retaining his belt in a hard fight. And most likely Teo Lopez will be the favorite here, maybe Ortiz 3:1 underdog (I haven't check crypto sports bookies yet).
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Lopez may be a favorite in this fight but Ortiz can deliver a huge upset if Lopez comes out easy in this fight like he did against Sandor Martin, Ortiz has matured after his fight against Loma.
Lopez has a history of undermining his opponents he has done this two times already against Kambosos and then against Sandor and Ortiz is a better fighter than Sandor if we are talking about fight comparison with Lomachenko.
Lopez when he fought Loma, Loma had a shoulder injury, while Ortiz when he fought Loma was 100% in perfect condition, so the comparison will not add up.

Ortiz gave Loma a problem, because of his height and probably that Ortiz is really big, but fortunately, Loma was able to overcome him. I think Lopez shouldn't underestimate Ortiz, he has the power and if he caught Lopez by chance, then he could pull a upset.

But barring those, I think Lopez can win in a hard fight, maybe this fight will go to distance and going into the judges scorecard.

And if there are close rounds, we all know that judges usually gave it to the champions so maybe UD for Lopez but very close in the cards, maybe 8-4 rounds at least for Lopez.
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This is a very risky fight for Teofimo Lopez, Ortiz gave Lomachenko a tough fight when they fought and He's going to give Lopez a much tougher fight, Ortiz is a guy who doesn't back up and has powers on both hands and can deliver lethal body shots, we all know Lopez


Teofimo definitely knows what he is doing.

you say Ortiz is a tough opponent of Lopez but the former losses to Loma via Unanimous decision, I didn't see the struggle there from Loma. Remember that Teo beat Loma, so I think Teo here is the one who should dictate this fight.

I'm not sure if there's an official betting odds yet for this fight, but according to https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/teofimo-lopez-v-jamaine-ortiz/winner

Teo is a heavy favorite with -500 odds.

Ortiz though lost against Lomaa still is a high risk against Lopez. He wouldn't be matched with Loma if he hadn't got what it takes but this fight has low rewards for Teo.
Ortiz made a good performance with Loma, he isn't such a weak fighter. But it would have been better if Teo took Matias unification. This isn't even mandatory for Teo.

This is still a good fight to watch. Teo is someone to watch out as this is the peak of his career.

Ortiz was matched against Loma not because he is a tougher opponent for him, he was match because they know that Loma can beat him. So the same case here with Top Rank picking up a fighter that has been beaten to be a get busy fight for Lopez.

We thought that Lopez wanted to fight Matias for the IBF belt, but that is a big risk for his team.

And so they settled against someone that Loma has beaten already. Very careful match making in the part of Top Rank and not risking their 140 lbs champion.
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Lopez may be a favorite in this fight but Ortiz can deliver a huge upset if Lopez comes out easy in this fight like he did against Sandor Martin, Ortiz has matured after his fight against Loma.
Lopez has a history of undermining his opponents he has done this two times already against Kambosos and then against Sandor and Ortiz is a better fighter than Sandor if we are talking about fight comparison with Lomachenko.
Lopez when he fought Loma, Loma had a shoulder injury, while Ortiz when he fought Loma was 100% in perfect condition, so the comparison will not add up.
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This is a very risky fight for Teofimo Lopez, Ortiz gave Lomachenko a tough fight when they fought and He's going to give Lopez a much tougher fight, Ortiz is a guy who doesn't back up and has powers on both hands and can deliver lethal body shots, we all know Lopez


Teofimo definitely knows what he is doing.

you say Ortiz is a tough opponent of Lopez but the former losses to Loma via Unanimous decision, I didn't see the struggle there from Loma. Remember that Teo beat Loma, so I think Teo here is the one who should dictate this fight.

I'm not sure if there's an official betting odds yet for this fight, but according to https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/teofimo-lopez-v-jamaine-ortiz/winner

Teo is a heavy favorite with -500 odds.

Ortiz though lost against Lomaa still is a high risk against Lopez. He wouldn't be matched with Loma if he hadn't got what it takes but this fight has low rewards for Teo.
Ortiz made a good performance with Loma, he isn't such a weak fighter. But it would have been better if Teo took Matias unification. This isn't even mandatory for Teo.

This is still a good fight to watch. Teo is someone to watch out as this is the peak of his career.
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This is a very risky fight for Teofimo Lopez, Ortiz gave Lomachenko a tough fight when they fought and He's going to give Lopez a much tougher fight, Ortiz is a guy who doesn't back up and has powers on both hands and can deliver lethal body shots, we all know Lopez


Teofimo definitely knows what he is doing.

you say Ortiz is a tough opponent of Lopez but the former losses to Loma via Unanimous decision, I didn't see the struggle there from Loma. Remember that Teo beat Loma, so I think Teo here is the one who should dictate this fight.

I'm not sure if there's an official betting odds yet for this fight, but according to https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/teofimo-lopez-v-jamaine-ortiz/winner

Teo is a heavy favorite with -500 odds.
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It's now final, Teofimo Lopez Vs. Jamaine Ortiz will square off for the WBO Welterweight Title on February 8

This is a very risky fight for Teofimo Lopez, Ortiz gave Lomachenko a tough fight when they fought and He's going to give Lopez a much tougher fight, Ortiz is a guy who doesn't back up and has powers on both hands and can deliver lethal body shots, we all know Lopez






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If Ortiz doesn’t fade like he tends to do, Teofimo could be in a lot of trouble in this fight and might need help from the judges, as we saw in his fight with Sandor Martin. Ortiz is one of those guys that looks huge after he rehydrates. Jamaine isn’t on the level of a Devin Haney, where he’ll rehydrate 25 lbs to 165 lbs and come in as a super middleweight, but he’ll likely have a size advantage over Teofimo on fight night.

Source: Teofimo Lopez Vs. Jamaine Ortiz In The Works For February 8th In Las Vegas - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/12/teofimo-lopez-vs-jamaine-ortiz-in-the-works-for-february-8th-in-las-vegas/

WBO light welterweight champion Teofimo Lopez and lightweight Jamaine Ortiz have a fight in the works for Thursday, February 8th, at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, Nevada.





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