Topic: Terrorist siege in the Philippines. - page 11. (Read 9764 times)

Only some small news mention this event from the beginning. well, it seems that they too focus on the manchester and forget all other third world country

They are not just attention seekers they really are now a part of islamic states or isis actually the one who leads the terrorists right now is the current leader of isis in Southeast Asia

Additional details, it turns out a kidnapping incident happened in a church there during a novena prayer. Ironic that it was the last day of preparation for the Feast of the Our Lady Help of Christians.

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/05/25/1703421/priest-parishioners-held-hostage-marawi-siege

I believe duterte can control it because he has the mandate of the people. Also he has political will to have succeed in his legacy.  Many people believe in him that is why He declare martial law.

Saw an update, I'd post it here. Looks like aside from burning down schools and precints and holding a hospital hostage, they also gatecrashed a mass and took the priests and parishioners....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuMDST0L0AU&feature=share


A quick history. Not the whole of Mindanao was Muslim, only Sulu archipelago and certain areas in the Western part. The Spanish setup towns on the northern part as well on Zamboanga just across Basilan and Sulu, effectively cutting the sultanate's slave trade with Brunei (used to obtain its wealth as middlemen in the spice trade but became increasingly insignificant and stagnated). Americans continued the process of consolidating the area into the Philippine commonwealth, prior to the country becoming a republic.

As expected, it did not share in the development of the rest of the country. For example I saw an interview of an ethnographer who married a Sulu man and she said when she got there there was no electricity and running water, which shocked her coming from northern part of the country.... That was in 70's.

I'd like to compare our situation to India, being there no "India" before the British consolidated the various polities.

This is why I doubt the situation in Europe would end well. Many of these people have been living in Christian-majority towns all their lives but that don't stop them from being sympathizers with fundamentalists. Here they want their own state (doubt they'd stop at that, they have a propaganda that the rest of Mindanao and some other parts of the country used to Muslim-majority). Those in Europe would want Europe to change and become Islamic.

hmm... Because you can't?

Are you even aware that the main problem of terrorism is you can't really distinguish the terrorists from the innocent civilians? Otherwise it would be pretty easy to fight it and we wouldn't have all this messed up fuck around the world xD

Those groups are not related to the ISIS group but there are many speculations as to what are their motives as to why they raided Marawi city, Here are some speculations roaming around the country;

1. The group wanted to be a part of the international terrorist group which is the ISIS, they are seeking attention so that when they become a member they can have a funding for their terrorist acts,

2. There was a political party behind the local terrorist group who funded them so they can use it to destroy the reputation of the president.

But for me the number one was more closer to the truth. Let us pray for the safety of the people in Marawi.

They are just 4% to 5% of the population in Philippines, and they are causing so much trouble. Imagine what is going to happen, if the Philippines becomes a Muslim majority nation.

You have weird information. Every single coup is staged by nature. The one Turkey by Gülenists cooperating with United States. For some reason, though, administration was warned well ahead, either by insiders or by some third power.

Conflict with islamists in Phillipines to my knowledge goes back to atleast 18th century and perhaps earlier as the Moro people of south, who accepted islam are fiercely independent folk. I would certainly welcome, if natives could enlighten us on inner workings. Western media are almost criminally vague, when it comes to local customs and ongoing news.

yes they are not isis but they are affiliated with isis, because that's where they get their funds and weapons from and in return they have to overthrow the govern''ment of the philippines to make philippines the base of isis,

It is a really tough situation, and also decision for the President. He said in many conferences that he will not declare Martial Law unless it is needed, but now it is, there are still senators that are not approved with these decision by the President, though they have their points, I think the President is really wanting impatient, based on what the other senators said, but I think they had talked about these matter with the Presidents cabinet members.

Many people also don't want the decision made by the president,  they are saying "atat" to the president, they said that the president is being impatient and saying that it is not the solution for it, and then I ask myself what is the solution if it's now Martial Law? we can't just let loose those terrorist that killed a lot of people.

And I think, it will be extended in Visayas region, as president said, it is just a walking distance to mindanao, so there will be no reason to extend it to Visayas. I just hope you all understand why the President is doing these decisions.

This is a pretty tough situation for our beloved President. He already declares are martial law for our safety. The only thing that scars me is that if he will gong to extend the martial law sratus in the visayas region

Old testament mostly. After the Gift, absolution comes from simple request; the wicked are actually allowed to continue in their wickedness to their ends. It is seemingly cruel, but it has a two fold purpose; free will is observed, which seems of critical importance, and the wicked are allowed to firmly root themselves in their ways, ensuring they have no place in the Kingdom. Also, the Lord has a thing about allowing the unjust to collect a great deal of substance, so that when they perish, it is distributed to the just. Thus, the wages of sin pay the debt of charity

It's a classic atheist talking point; not knocking atheism, but I had to point out the minutiae for clarity.

The first murderer, Cain, was allowed to continue to the end of his days. The originator of homicide, and he was indeed punished, but even at the very beginning of the Book, the most brutal part, he lives.

Something to ponder on.
Carry on

This is our faith now. When the first of these outrageous attacks hit major Western European cities like Charlie Hebdo in Paris I thought to myself "OK, this is the time when we finally wake up and stop this from happening in the future"

Fast forward a few years to the present moment, terrorist attacks are becoming a daily thing and people and governments seem to care less and less and get used to it. We even get to idiotisms like the mayor of London saying that these attacks are "part and parcel of living in a big city"

That's not an easy task because what matters is the safety of the civilians.

Reports says that male are forcely recruited to join their forces prior to their siege. Because they have no choice then they will join. The military are careful in their every move before going on an all out war to reclaim the city. This Maute group wants ISIS recogniton that's why they did this surprise attack. They free all prisoners at the city jail then fired it. Firetrucks are being stolen that's why there is no response and the whole city is blackout. These small idiots think that they can dominate the small city. The President came back home quickly and cut this visitation period to Russia because he is from Mindanao itself and knows the situation there for many years prior in becoming a president.

Hopefully those crocodile that backing up this terrorist wil be revealed. If they hate the government then why sacrifice innocent lives. This is one of the reason why majority of the Filipino choose Pres. Duterte because they believe he will be the one who will give cleansing for all government officials and now it was happening. Lots of destabilization plots with the upcoming Pork Barrel Scam investigation.

Hopefully this will be resolved.

The Philippines is different story though, Mindanao on the South has been a Muslim province ever since and has been a haven for terrorist for decades now.

But I agree with you with regards to the West accepting refugees. This will likely to happened if they continue accepting and assimilation with the population. And its very hard to stop if the radicals are home based already.

The details are quite hazy. I saw a news clip on FB saying they also attacked the city jail and a district jail and released the prisoners. Gonna bet plenty of those are relatives of these terrorists. Hell is gonna break lose. 

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To any Westerners reading this thread, this will be your fate soon. The attack near Parliament and that at the Ariana Grande concert aren't even a half year apart. The interval between these attack would become shorter as you get more radicals coming home from Iraq and Syria.

I pity these guys once Duterte gets to work with them. This actually plays perfectly for him, now he can take town their whole organization and raise even more support from the public. It almost sounds a bit too good to be true, like maybe it's something staged like the coup in Turkey.

They are ISIS inspired group. I remember I put up a thread about this Maute group in the Philippines a few months back. I think they are trying hard to be recognized by ISIS. They attacked Marawi City, but the latest news says that the terrorist is now fleeing but it will take days to be cleared because snipers are present and IED's along the way. I don't know but the timing of the attack coincides with the Manchester bomber so I don't know if this is a coordinated attack. Even President Duterte cut his Russian Trip short to go back to Manila and personally see what is going on. I'm sure he is so pissed right now that he want to shot this terrorist.

Well, why not kill them all then?

Both bible and quran prescript capital punishment for premediated murder (this case) and Duterte, unlike western puppets seems to be strong enough man to carry out justice in this regard.

Remember, from the point of natural law, it doesnt matter what murderer seeks or wants to prove. What matters is that he is held accountible for his crimes against humanity, nature and God.

Can you source more information for us, non-Phillipinos, please?