Topic: Tesla Cybertruck - page 2. (Read 1160 times)
Has anyone put down a deposit on one of these bad boys? I can’t bring myself to start a 2-year long preorder process.
It looks like it belongs on the moon, but as far as performance is concerned, it is a beast of a truck.
Let the sightings in the wild begin!
https://electrek.co/2019/12/08/elon-musk-spotted-driving-teslas-new-cybertruck-electric-pickup-la/
https://electrek.co/2019/12/08/elon-musk-spotted-driving-teslas-new-cybertruck-electric-pickup-la/
I love Ilon and all his creations.
Not one of the Syrian machine manufacturers would crack such a design, but Ilon proved that this is possible.
Not one of the Syrian machine manufacturers would crack such a design, but Ilon proved that this is possible.
Again, because something is old, doesn't necessarily makes it bad.
This is true !
I also personally saw a pneumatic system still in use during the 80ies.
Well, I saw a working pneumatic system no later than last week.
The photos are from the C1 expresso caffee en New Zeland.
They send your food by pneumatic tube.
People go there just for the experience, it is not more efficient then waiter / waitress as the drinks still have to carried to the table by a human.
But it is fun to see.
Hyperloop, aka Pneumatic tube, capsule pipelines the new thing from 1799.
I personally have seen the system in operation some years back in a hardware (yacht supply) store. The money disappears and the change with receipt returns little later. Internet and credit card put an end to the system.
Lots of citys have Pneumatic trash collection systems operational.
I personally have seen the system in operation some years back in a hardware (yacht supply) store. The money disappears and the change with receipt returns little later. Internet and credit card put an end to the system.
Lots of citys have Pneumatic trash collection systems operational.
Again, because something is old, doesn't necessarily makes it bad. I also read about a passenger transport system experiment in New York if i recall correctly.
I also personally saw a pneumatic system still in use during the 80ies. A bank used it for their car "drive in" tellers, you would send and receive things like banknotes and checks with it. I seem to recall watching the same in a department store around the same time, also for moving letter sized envelopes etc. You put things inside a cylinder and then place that cylinder into the pipe where it gets sucked.
The older pneumatic system works pretty much the same way your vacuum cleaner works, things get "sucked" in the pipe, but this is not the case here.
In hyperloop the air pressure is lowered inside the pipes, but not for propulsion, it is to reduce air resistance, same thing that happens when a plane gains altitude. The "cars" have to propel by themselves in various ways, there are competing ideas including the linear induction motor. Last i checked one of the proposals the cars do levitate passively when the induction motors makes it "fly" inside. (it has wheels or skies for the stations).
Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperloop
According to Musk, Hyperloop would be useful on Mars as no tubes would be needed because Mars' atmosphere is about 1% the density of the Earth's at sea level. For the Hyperloop concept to work on Earth, low-pressure tubes are required to reduce air resistance. However, if they were to be built on Mars, the lower air resistance would allow a Hyperloop to be created with no tube, only a track.
By doing it the old way it would require monumentally more energy, especially given the proposed distance. I have no doubt we will soon see a commercial operating hyperloop in Qatar.
You guys should wake up on Elon musk... He needed the Bolivian Lithium so he had help from the US to spark a coup there. And what happens next? Giga factory announced on Berlin which will give easy access to that precious Lithium.
Idk the full situation in Bolivia but that is really strange to have a giga factory in berlin right after that. 
Can't wait to drive it on mars really.
You seem the kind of person to like swim in the sewer because its nice cosy "warm". No sane person would go on a suicide mission to life in extreme inhospitable environment. Religious fanatics seem like some kind of trend.
Rational people enjoy nature, family, company of friends and a jolly good time.
There is already 3 (electric) "cars" parked on the moon, ready to use. How about walking before running?
Cybertruck's competitor on Mars presented by NASA
ini the next few years we will see many cars with unique shapes appearing
ini the next few years we will see many cars with unique shapes appearing
No two ways about it, Its a boom with the homemade flat panel sheet car endeavors.
Hyperloop, aka Pneumatic tube, capsule pipelines the new thing from 1799.
I personally have seen the system in operation some years back in a hardware (yacht supply) store. The money disappears and the change with receipt returns little later. Internet and credit card put an end to the system.
Lots of citys have Pneumatic trash collection systems operational.
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Historical use
1853: linking the London Stock Exchange to the city's main telegraph station (a distance of 220 yards (200 m) )
1861: in London with the London Pneumatic Despatch Company providing services from Euston railway station to the General Post Office and Holborn
1864: in Liverpool connecting the Electric and International Telegraph Company telegraph stations in Castle Street, Water Street and the Exchange Buildings[14]
1864: in Manchester to connect the Electric and International Telegraph Company central offices at York Street, with branch offices at Dulcie Buildings and Mosley Street[15]
1865: in Birmingham, installed by the Electric and International Telegraph Company between the New Exchange Buildings in Stephenson Place and their branch office in Temple Buildings, New Street.[16]
1865: in Berlin (until 1976), the Rohrpost [de], a system 400 kilometers in total length at its peak in 1940
1866: in Paris (until 1984, 467 kilometers in total length from 1934). John Steinbeck mentioned this system in The Short Reign of Pippin IV: A Fabrication: "You pay no attention to the pneumatique."
1871: in Dublin[17]
1875: in Vienna (until 1956)
1887: in Prague (until 2002 due to flooding), the Prague pneumatic post[18]
1893: the first North American system was established in Philadelphia by Postmaster General John Wanamaker, who had previously employed the technology at his department store. The system, which initially connected the downtown post offices, was later extended to the principal railroad stations, the stock exchanges, and many private businesses. It was operated by the United States Post Office Department which later opened similar systems in cities such as New York (connecting Brooklyn and Manhattan), Chicago, Boston, and St. Louis. The last of these closed in 1953.[19]
Other cities: Munich, Rio de Janeiro, Buenos Aires, Hamburg, Rome, Naples, Milan, Marseille, Melbourne, Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya, Kobe[20]
1950s-1989: CIA headquarters (now known as the Old Headquarters Building)[21]
1853: linking the London Stock Exchange to the city's main telegraph station (a distance of 220 yards (200 m) )
1861: in London with the London Pneumatic Despatch Company providing services from Euston railway station to the General Post Office and Holborn
1864: in Liverpool connecting the Electric and International Telegraph Company telegraph stations in Castle Street, Water Street and the Exchange Buildings[14]
1864: in Manchester to connect the Electric and International Telegraph Company central offices at York Street, with branch offices at Dulcie Buildings and Mosley Street[15]
1865: in Birmingham, installed by the Electric and International Telegraph Company between the New Exchange Buildings in Stephenson Place and their branch office in Temple Buildings, New Street.[16]
1865: in Berlin (until 1976), the Rohrpost [de], a system 400 kilometers in total length at its peak in 1940
1866: in Paris (until 1984, 467 kilometers in total length from 1934). John Steinbeck mentioned this system in The Short Reign of Pippin IV: A Fabrication: "You pay no attention to the pneumatique."
1871: in Dublin[17]
1875: in Vienna (until 1956)
1887: in Prague (until 2002 due to flooding), the Prague pneumatic post[18]
1893: the first North American system was established in Philadelphia by Postmaster General John Wanamaker, who had previously employed the technology at his department store. The system, which initially connected the downtown post offices, was later extended to the principal railroad stations, the stock exchanges, and many private businesses. It was operated by the United States Post Office Department which later opened similar systems in cities such as New York (connecting Brooklyn and Manhattan), Chicago, Boston, and St. Louis. The last of these closed in 1953.[19]
Other cities: Munich, Rio de Janeiro, Buenos Aires, Hamburg, Rome, Naples, Milan, Marseille, Melbourne, Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya, Kobe[20]
1950s-1989: CIA headquarters (now known as the Old Headquarters Building)[21]
Alfred Ely Beach's experimental pneumatic subway on display in 1867
You guys should wake up on Elon musk... He needed the Bolivian Lithium so he had help from the US to spark a coup there. And what happens next? Giga factory announced on Berlin which will give easy access to that precious Lithium.
Each show of Elon Musk is getting worse and worse. I feel like they’ve prepared for the show 10 minutes before it starts....
that's completly true, how can you test the glass in front of the millions buyes if you tested it just once before.
crazy
Each show of Elon Musk is getting worse and worse. I feel like they’ve prepared for the show 10 minutes before it starts....
I guess it goes with the bullet proof house, office and pulletproof vest.
I prefer to move to some civilized place and take the cabriolet for a spin.
No bullet needed just short circuit of battery, instead fried to dead.
I prefer to move to some civilized place and take the cabriolet for a spin.
No bullet needed just short circuit of battery, instead fried to dead.
As opposed to carrying a tank full of flammable liquid fuel with an engine that is constantly igniting it in tiny portions to produce movement? I wonder if the word Pinto rings a bell to you? The few times a Tesla crashed or something nasty punctured the battery bank provoking a short circuit, people had plenty of time to leave the car. The car even stops and warns the driver and passengers to leave the car when an abnormal temperature condition with the batteries occurs.
Your talk about "spaced" and "linear" seems to be hinting to linear induction, the types where the thing is spread either in the road or train/monorail like things. Come to think of it, Elon's Hyperloop might actually be using something like that...
Obviously, "civilized" countries have plenty of mass transport options available. But we are talking America here, land of the free, everyone lives in low density suburbs too far from stations... Since the 50ies, they designed their life around cars, that was the trend back then as seen in Brasilia. But in the 60ies you also see people like Walt Disney trying a concept of a more densely populated city with a mass transit system based around linear induction (aka. people's mover). Yes, an idea being old doesn't make it wrong, but it was never realized beyond a couple of theme parks and the odd underground at some airport and the Capitol.
So what you suggest is go back to the status quo, do nothing because your idea is better but nobody does it?. 50 years passed yet nothing was done. Even Disney's project died with him, their company completely focused in "entertainment" nowadays nobody would even guess he tried that unless you bother to search his old Epcot project videos in Youtube.
Tesla cars work, and several other manufacturers are following. I don't particularly care that the AC motor was invented by Nikola Tesla a century ago, i actually liked it very much the way it works in the pre 3 models. Wheels are round, and tend to do circular motion, rather than linear...
Of course you don't have to use the wheels for traction, but that's the way things are. Short of changing all roads or simply not using cars at all. Which is just not going to happen, especially for an American company. But even the Chinese and Europeans are joining in, so the point remains. It is a step forward, made it to market and changed the world.
Oh and the cybertruck will be recognized unmistakably anywhere it goes, i say it was an astute publicity stunt he pulled there with a "pet project" that wasn't expected to exist in the first place.
This is a polygonal shape, the closest trend was the squares of the 80ies. Before and after cars have tended to be curvy, for aesthetic and aerodynamic reasons. But i guess a truck isn't expected to break mileage records, so why not. I hope its successful and useful for those lucky enough to get one. Even if it flops, it will become an object of collection just like Deloreans if only because of its shape.
Weird. Can you really drive this thing? haha. Of course it's a matter of taste, but to me it looks absolutely uncomfortable. But it is original - yes. Maybe I'm just a bit oldschool about cars - I prefer retro cars much more even over any usual modern cars 
Cybertruck's competitor on Mars presented by NASA
ini the next few years we will see many cars with unique shapes appearing
ini the next few years we will see many cars with unique shapes appearing
Can't wait to drive it on mars really.
That truck looks nice and secure (for a zombie apocalipse) lol.
Ya, I think he had a lot of people as soon as he used the word bulletproof.
I guess it goes with the bullet proof house, office and pulletproof vest.
I prefer to move to some civilized place and take the cabriolet for a spin.
No bullet needed just short circuit of battery, instead fried to dead.
AC v DC power
https://youtu.be/Zez2r1RPpWY?t=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnszPkG8H_w
Another thermal moment as Elon likes to call it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iThVZxDiilc
That truck looks nice and secure (for a zombie apocalipse) lol.
Ya, I think he had a lot of people as soon as he used the word bulletproof.
That truck looks nice and secure (for a zombie apocalipse) lol.
The specifications are a good offer, such a big truck and are fast as hell, so that's a good point. But the design is too much for 2020, why companies keep focusing in make better cars while we have drones for humans?
Maybe Tesla should open his vision beyond the weels.
The specifications are a good offer, such a big truck and are fast as hell, so that's a good point. But the design is too much for 2020, why companies keep focusing in make better cars while we have drones for humans?
Maybe Tesla should open his vision beyond the weels.
Maybe a clear case of to much computer gaming, total loss of reality.
No its develop right here and utilizes thousand year old battery technology and permanent magnet motor, most likely.
Early models used synchronous motor (AC) developed by Nikola Tesla a long time ago (1888) but for cost and efficiency reasons Model 3 uses the much older permanent magnet motor (DC) technology.
The Nikola Tesla's AC Induction Motor is one of the 10 greatest discoveries of all time but has eddie current issues.
Real technological advances would utilize something like W18 solenoid motor or Double star solenoid motor
Spaced out gimmick toys are not long term economic viable, a solenoid liquid pump driven car would be one solution to improve efficiency.
AC Tesla Induction Motor from 1892
Model 3 DC motor 
-vs- "spaced out" 32 solenoid motor
No its develop right here and utilizes thousand year old battery technology and permanent magnet motor, most likely.
Early models used synchronous motor (AC) developed by Nikola Tesla a long time ago (1888) but for cost and efficiency reasons Model 3 uses the much older permanent magnet motor (DC) technology.
The Nikola Tesla's AC Induction Motor is one of the 10 greatest discoveries of all time but has eddie current issues.
Real technological advances would utilize something like W18 solenoid motor or Double star solenoid motor
Spaced out gimmick toys are not long term economic viable, a solenoid liquid pump driven car would be one solution to improve efficiency.
AC Tesla Induction Motor from 1892
Model 3 DC motor -vs- "spaced out" 32 solenoid motor
You are more than welcome to prove it by developing a product and take it to market. There is probably a gotcha lost somewhere in your idea, that hasn't gotten the attention of Tesla. If that engine is so great, why not use it? How about all the other car companies, which one is using the 32 solenoid motor?
I like competing ideas, its still inline with Elon's push to electrify the world's transportation.
While we are at it, which of them is used in the "Cybertruck"? AC or DC? Unfortunately power always comes from DC, the not so old Li-ion (and derivatives) batteries.
The discussion is about spaced out motor/car. There is absolutely noting spaced out about DC/AC motor or flat paneling that was/is reserved to backyard homemade fabrications.
A solenoid and DC motor is fundamentally the same operation except one moves circles the other linear. Circular can never be as efficient as linear.
If someone wants there is all sorts of spaced out options available in modern engineering a common computer fan or other cheap appliance motor is not one of them. The desire must be there
Any cheap mobile phone/laptop.... has Li-ion batteries. Jamming a lot of them together and create a drive-able coffin (death trap) is not everyone dream.
Why did Tesla have AC motors pre model 3? I dont know ask Elon, Three possibility's.
1. if you start of with retarded* version its easy to make "improvements" in later models.
*Taking a DC power source (battery) and use a inverter to power a 3 phase synchronous alternating current motor (AC) is not efficient, inverters are notoriously inefficient.
2. to name the car a Tesla, without a AC motor why is it named a Tesla, because of the Radio, wireless....which also come from Nikola Tesla
3. combination of 1 and 2
Fail and fail again,
electric cars from the 60/70s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljVAA1Tr8Yo
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