Tesla transferring over $760m in BTC

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Quote from: tabas on October 17, 2024, 06:47:55 PM

Good thing with these whale alerts is that the media always have to publish huge transfers from companies like Tesla. Cheesy

these whale alert tx warning just empty shell though, for all I know it could be that tesla just trying to migrate their BTC to other wallet maybe due to some risk, maybe they want to further secure their asset, or it could be dump. arkam intelligence, wins a lot in giving us an actually relevant information.

but yeah it's still a good thing that we can actually see what's happening with these whales wallets, Grin

. like basically we can't do this kind of thing with stock so it's definitely a good benefit of using crypto.

still. I have firm believe that these whales won't be foolish enough to let people know what they're doing.

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There are well known people including Michael Saylor and Tyler and Cameron Winklevoss who *personally* own more BTC then that.

Over the last 24 hours over 535000 BTC have been traded totaling over $37 billion.
Tesla moving such a small percentage of that means nothing. It's just more clickbait.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 18, 2024, 02:38:56 AM

Quote from: tabas on October 18, 2024, 12:09:33 AM

It's too tiring when the news is just the same. Well, that's why it was made, to track whales' movement and alert the community. But then, the media has seen a way to capitalize on that tool for them to keep on making content and articles that could either bring good or bad moods to the readers. That is the reason why I am not moved whenever there are news about big sums of money being moved here and there by either Tesla, or some huge financial institutions that really gets the attention of the community.

You would also hope that knowing this information will instantly be made public would make companies like Tesla be ready with an explanation as to not create a panic in the community. Not that they owe us anything, but they could have issued a press release explaining their intentions, otherwise people will assume they’re selling.

That's a good publicity stunt and announcement if they do so but I don't think they have to do that. But if they do so, for sure many from the community will give their respect to them. IIRC, they've done a huge sell-off on the last bull run, I can't remember exactly if it was in 2021 or 2022. They're used to these things but then, as you've said it could be followed by an explanation of what really is happening on them and that press release could also move the market. It's always has been like this when it comes to them whenever it's on the headlines that either selling off or just moving of Tesla's BTC, the effect is there.

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Quote from: tabas on October 18, 2024, 12:09:33 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on October 17, 2024, 07:38:22 PM

Quote from: tabas on October 17, 2024, 06:47:55 PM

Good thing with these whale alerts is that the media always have to publish huge transfers from companies like Tesla. Cheesy

Yes, and sometimes with this whale alerts, it really create some FUD on the market, that's why I stop following them. It's good that we see some huge movement from institutions, but then again, there are people who read between the lines and then started to rattle the market.

I think this could be one reason why the prices goes on a small correction, we have been around $68,500, now the price is around $67,200. Hopefully, when everything settles down after this Tesla news, we will be on the way to $70,000 at the end of the month.

It's too tiring when the news is just the same. Well, that's why it was made, to track whales' movement and alert the community. But then, the media has seen a way to capitalize on that tool for them to keep on making content and articles that could either bring good or bad moods to the readers. That is the reason why I am not moved whenever there are news about big sums of money being moved here and there by either Tesla, or some huge financial institutions that really gets the attention of the community.

You would also hope that knowing this information will instantly be made public would make companies like Tesla be ready with an explanation as to not create a panic in the community. Not that they owe us anything, but they could have issued a press release explaining their intentions, otherwise people will assume they’re selling.

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Quote from: Kemarit on October 17, 2024, 07:38:22 PM

Quote from: tabas on October 17, 2024, 06:47:55 PM

Good thing with these whale alerts is that the media always have to publish huge transfers from companies like Tesla. Cheesy

Yes, and sometimes with this whale alerts, it really create some FUD on the market, that's why I stop following them. It's good that we see some huge movement from institutions, but then again, there are people who read between the lines and then started to rattle the market.

I think this could be one reason why the prices goes on a small correction, we have been around $68,500, now the price is around $67,200. Hopefully, when everything settles down after this Tesla news, we will be on the way to $70,000 at the end of the month.

It's too tiring when the news is just the same. Well, that's why it was made, to track whales' movement and alert the community. But then, the media has seen a way to capitalize on that tool for them to keep on making content and articles that could either bring good or bad moods to the readers. That is the reason why I am not moved whenever there are news about big sums of money being moved here and there by either Tesla, or some huge financial institutions that really gets the attention of the community.

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Whenever there's news about big company or large financial institution, anyone should expect that they'd dump their bitcoin at some point, it's not a new information.
It could be that tesla right now is settling to sell their BTC over the counter, which is good to not shake the market and cause price dumping.

personally, I have no problem with this, tesla could sell all their BTC if they want it's their investments, but for other investors, it is a proof that investing in BTC will yield great as long as you doesn't become paperhand.

just imagine if tesla selling their BTC in the middle bearish cycle, their investment value would've flopped so hard, so be a diamond hand.

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Quote from: tabas on October 17, 2024, 06:47:55 PM

Good thing with these whale alerts is that the media always have to publish huge transfers from companies like Tesla. Cheesy

Quote from: beerlover on October 17, 2024, 11:46:24 AM

This is why we should not talk about "potential" of something when it hasn't happened, it's the same with every big sale SEC does, like "oohhh silkroad coins will be dumped!" and they FUD, but then nothing happens.

It's already stuck in the minds of many whenever there are transfers from wallet to wallet, there's a potential threat of dumping it. It doesn't matter, it's not our money to say what to do and we're just speculators. They can dump it all at once if they want to and the market reacts and then the market recovers so, there's no essence of being too hyper with this news about the transfers. Or we just get tired of reading about these transfers everytime there's a popular name moves it.

Yes, and sometimes with this whale alerts, it really create some FUD on the market, that's why I stop following them. It's good that we see some huge movement from institutions, but then again, there are people who read between the lines and then started to rattle the market.

I think this could be one reason why the prices goes on a small correction, we have been around $68,500, now the price is around $67,200. Hopefully, when everything settles down after this Tesla news, we will be on the way to $70,000 at the end of the month.

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Good thing with these whale alerts is that the media always have to publish huge transfers from companies like Tesla. Cheesy

Quote from: beerlover on October 17, 2024, 11:46:24 AM

This is why we should not talk about "potential" of something when it hasn't happened, it's the same with every big sale SEC does, like "oohhh silkroad coins will be dumped!" and they FUD, but then nothing happens.

It's already stuck in the minds of many whenever there are transfers from wallet to wallet, there's a potential threat of dumping it. It doesn't matter, it's not our money to say what to do and we're just speculators. They can dump it all at once if they want to and the market reacts and then the market recovers so, there's no essence of being too hyper with this news about the transfers. Or we just get tired of reading about these transfers everytime there's a popular name moves it.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on October 17, 2024, 05:45:57 AM

As Richbased said, Tesla is one of the top 4 largest bitcoin holders and if they sell it, it will definitely have a significant impact on the market. So it's not hard to understand why people are interested in this.

There are many ways to sell bitcoins, they can sell through OTC companies, 3rd parties and not necessarily transfer directly to exchanges to cause chaos in the market. Most of us won't know when Tesla will sell bitcoin until their financial reports are released at the end of each quarter. This has happened in the past, no one knows when they sold their bitcoins until the financial report comes out and mentions they sold the bitcoins.

Looking at the price, it's still about 67k, so we can say it is doing fine right now and whatever this FUD was, it was for all nothing. I understand Tesla is rich, and I understand if they sell their coins that would be big deal, but we need to also realize there are a lot of people who have a lot of bitcoins that are just beyond one market, hence we can't technically really consider this as a big deal, it is definitely a big deal in the sense that if the price crashed then it would have been a big deal, but since price didn't move at all, then it is not a big deal and totally a FUD.

This is why we should not talk about "potential" of something when it hasn't happened, it's the same with every big sale SEC does, like "oohhh silkroad coins will be dumped!" and they FUD, but then nothing happens.

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Quote from: asriloni on October 17, 2024, 02:45:32 AM

Whenever there is activity on Tesla's bitcoin address, it sparks conspiracy theories. And i feel so tired of it.

They'll likely sell it, then fund MAGA's campaign. Or, their keys were compromised, and they moved it all to a new wallet. Those activities were common things.

As long as Tesla's bitcoin are not going to the exchange sites, no need to feel panic. It's just a usual activity in the crypto market. Even if they sold it, and that's their btc.

If you are tired of these news, just ignore them, you don't need to care and complain about them.

As Richbased said, Tesla is one of the top 4 largest bitcoin holders and if they sell it, it will definitely have a significant impact on the market. So it's not hard to understand why people are interested in this.

There are many ways to sell bitcoins, they can sell through OTC companies, 3rd parties and not necessarily transfer directly to exchanges to cause chaos in the market. Most of us won't know when Tesla will sell bitcoin until their financial reports are released at the end of each quarter. This has happened in the past, no one knows when they sold their bitcoins until the financial report comes out and mentions they sold the bitcoins.

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Bitcoin is anonymous- to some extent.

Bitcoin is pseudonymous- to some extent.

You know what, I wonder why we take so much interest in other people's business to the point of following every money trail some of these accounts make and expect markets to grow Roll Eyes

if anything I believe it's such news that could bring about fear panic and all that because others could misinterpret this has something is going on in the markets and these guys could have inside information.

Maybe Tesla trying to breakeven and trying to get their lost value of these assets as we get ready to see 70K..

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Whenever there is activity on Tesla's bitcoin address, it sparks conspiracy theories. And i feel so tired of it.

They'll likely sell it, then fund MAGA's campaign. Or, their keys were compromised, and they moved it all to a new wallet. Those activities were common things.

As long as Tesla's bitcoin are not going to the exchange sites, no need to feel panic. It's just a usual activity in the crypto market. Even if they sold it, and that's their btc.

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Quote from: hugeblack on October 16, 2024, 02:10:58 AM

We will know whether they sold or not in Q4 report which is usually released in January although I do not think they sold.
Tesla and Elon Musk news no longer affects the price of Bitcoin as it did in 2021, so ETF news is what affects the price.

You are very correct, i don't think the bitcoins were sold as well but i was just having the feelings that they might want to convert it to other coins and not leave it in bitcoin, maybe better still convert it to Dogecoin since that's the coin they use for their electric cars. It's true that news associated with Elon Musk no longer affects bitcoin price but if his motives are to later sell the $760 million worth of bitcoins i think it will definitely affect the price of bitcoin since they are the fourth largest holders of bitcoin among public organisations.

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Unless the coins are sent to an exchange and have the potential for a small and short price drop,... (which is also not much of a news), this is just another desperate call of the newspapers for "something to click onto".

Probably they've changed something related to the custody. Maybe somebody is about to get fired and should not know the private keys. Or maybe Elon got a discounted hardware wallet and transferred the funds onto it Cheesy

Any idea, no matter how crazy, has a (tiny) chance to be the real cause. And.. what? does it really matter? It's their money.

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People can decide to move their investment in bitcoin from one wallet to the other for various reasons. I don't think it's something that people should be worried about or it should be up for public discussions. Things like this don't move me because why will I bother myself for someone else bitcoin and how they chose to utilise it. Few months ago it was German government and others, yet today bitcoin is still making strong moves. So even if they decide to sell the bitcoin they moved I don't care.

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Quote from: martinex on October 16, 2024, 10:20:55 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on October 16, 2024, 01:18:33 AM

They usually disclose their BTC holdings in investor reports so we will eventually find out if they are selling or they just wanted to move them to new wallets. I don’t see Musk’s companies as prominent players in the crypto space. They bought some BTC in a previous bull market and got a lot of publicity when they decided to accept it. Then Musk suddenly changed his mind about accepting it and sold some of Tesla’s coins. They have not been relevant to Bitcoin since then, aside from a few people being curious to see if they still have their remaining coins.

Yes, That was enough to shake the market for a while, although the price went up again shortly after. I think the direction of use will also be used to support operational costs ahead of the 2024 US Election in November, especially for the candidates they support and also during the election campaign process if we look at the direction visually.

Lol, if it did shake the market, then it's on the positive side and not the usually the negative associate with large transfer, specially with influential companies or people behind like Elon or Tesla.

Maybe it's time for them to report their profits that's why the make this move, or it is just strategically for their business plan or whatever. Your guess is as good as mine. And if the market is not shaken, it just shows that we are really over with Elon, unlike in 2020 after the halving, everything he done, we are really that affected, but not this time anymore as we already what he did that time.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on October 16, 2024, 01:18:33 AM

They usually disclose their BTC holdings in investor reports so we will eventually find out if they are selling or they just wanted to move them to new wallets. I don’t see Musk’s companies as prominent players in the crypto space. They bought some BTC in a previous bull market and got a lot of publicity when they decided to accept it. Then Musk suddenly changed his mind about accepting it and sold some of Tesla’s coins. They have not been relevant to Bitcoin since then, aside from a few people being curious to see if they still have their remaining coins.

Yes, That was enough to shake the market for a while, although the price went up again shortly after. I think the direction of use will also be used to support operational costs ahead of the 2024 US Election in November, especially for the candidates they support and also during the election campaign process if we look at the direction visually.

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Quote from: pooya87 on October 16, 2024, 12:25:14 AM

The only reason why this meaningless transfer is in the news is because there is a "celebrity" behind it. Otherwise this transaction is nowhere near the biggest amount of bitcoin transferred. It is also not uncommon to see such large sums being moved.

And that is why people are easily manipulated. They put so much focus on the activities of public figures that should be irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Nobody should care if Tesla wants to sell their bitcoin or move them to another wallet. There are many reasons why they should do so if they want to. Bitcoin is not built around these people. No matter what they do, it should not affect bitcoin. Still, unfortunately, the opposite is the case because when people perceive that the motive of the transfer is to sell, they panic and sell their bitcoin too, thinking these people have some insider knowledge about bitcoin as if bitcoin is some company stock.

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There was already a thread with similar content created by @bbc.reporter. I think I will just reply there.

Tesla transfers $760 million bitcoin to unknown wallets

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on October 16, 2024, 02:30:48 AM

Quote from: Fiatless on October 16, 2024, 02:24:49 AM

Unlike Michael J. Saylor Elon Musk has been inconsistent with his crypto policies so I don't see him as a major player in the industry. All we can do is just speculate about the reason for these transfers. Maybe the move is for security reasons. It could also be that he wants to sell it or he wants to create FUD. But such a move wouldn't affect the market because the amount is insignificant and investors are used to Elon's tricks.

You are doing an improper comparison here. Saylor and Musk run their companies that have different businesses and products. Musk companies, Tesla and SpaceX nearly don't have anything closely related to Bitcoin. Oppositely, Saylor has Micro Strategy that is a company with diversifying products but recent years one of their main focuses is Bitcoin.

Micro Strategy considers that Bitcoin is the end game and they've never stopped accumulating Bitcoin since September 2020.

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Maybe you misunderstood what I said. My comment is that Elon Musk has been inconsistent with his Bitcoin policies. His company Telsa was accepting Bitcoin as payment but later suspended it. He also said he would never sell his Bitcoin, but he backtracked. But Micheal Saylor has been consistent in his investment in Bitcoin and keeps adding to his hodling. Anyway, the thread is not about these individuals but the transfer of funds from Telsa.

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